Yay! Rewards of MW Mithral Full Plate all around!
...what?
I'm more of an artifact man myself ;)
About the spoilers, Kragath:
If you wish to add to the immersion by creating a visible barrier of what happens in regards of dialogue, then I'm all for it - but it also adds the element of separation, which can turn some players off. So it depends on all of you, really.
About the spoilers, Kragath:
...but it also adds the element of separation, which can turn some players off. So it depends on all of you, really.
I'm fine with it either way, but, as Kragath said, no one here seems like they're meta-gaming. Plus I enjoy reading everyone's posts, whether Ingle's in the same room with them or not. But I'm happy to do it either way.
As Ingle said, I'm enjoying the story one way or another and have decades of experience at separating player and character knowledge.... So do what makes you comfortable -- but, to be honest, if you spoiler 'em, I'll probably read it anyway. :)
As Ingle said, I'm enjoying the story one way or another and have decades of experience at separating player and character knowledge.... So do what makes you comfortable -- but, to be honest, if you spoiler 'em, I'll probably read it anyway. :)
Bwahaha!
Truth be told, I would too. I like to think I'm confident enough in my ability to separate character and player knowledge. Of course, irrelevant so long as I am the DM.
I will relay my interrogation results to Jonas. In training, checkin forums on breaks. Will just update my actions here until I can actually add flavor text.
Also, totally been reading the Spoiler posts all along, but I can keep player/character knowledge separate. I know, I know, how un-paladinly of me. LOL
Actually: Did we decide who is doing the interrogations versus doing clean up, guarding others, etc..?
I would think some of this would come down to who's persuasive and who's good at reading people (so, totally in mechanics, who's got Diplomacy, possibly Bluff and Sense Motive?)
Also, I believe Svetlana only called out some of the bandits as having been by before (which confirms the crying boy's story, at least), which may be important to note.
As to reading spoilers, that's just one extra thing that keeps me to the right on the law-chaos axis and maintains my ability to rage. ;)
And may I say, I really hate this avatar I picked. Halfling selection was limited, but it's so terribly far from Gathien's description. Too bad we can't upload them ourselves (of course, it's not like I could draw anyway)
No. That is Gathien and forever will be. LOL
Edit: also, Patcher, it would seem as if I interrogated the crying one. Wanted to go ahead and say I'm usin Detect Evil on the prisoners, and Kragath would feel that if they truly are repentant, he should not detect evil in their hearts. He will relay these findings to the group. If it comes to it, feel free to DM talk this out for me if I don't get a chance and the group wants this info. I won't be totally free until about 7-8 pm EST.
It occurs to me that the second part of my recent post, timewise, should really come after Kragath does his Detect and others make their skill rolls though I don't think it will change much of what rorgrym said.
Gathien's avatar does scream more "Tasslehoff Burrfoot" than "Elemental Barbarian" to me. ;) Having had to pick a halfling avatar once myself, it's tough. There aren't many options and many of them are drawn in a Boris Vallejo, Dark Sun style with a "I've just seen Cthulhu!" expression on the face. I'm actually kind of surprised at how barebones Paizo's messageboard features are; no image uploads, no PM's, limited BBCode options. Even most fansites I've been to have had all of those options and more (not to mention an almost ridiculous number of emoticon features).
One question I have, some of the Diplomacy rolls that were made, if I had made them, I would have rolled them as Intimidate. DM Patcher, are you leaving up to us to decide which skill we think is the most appropriate? I really don't care either way but it would be nice to know for future reference.
Having a little trouble finding time to post today. Meetings all morning, a rushed lunch right now, then an afternoon of catching up on all the work I should have been doing this morning. Ingle probably doesn't have much to add at the moment anyway, and I dont want to break up the excellent rp you guys have going with his inane prattle. if the decision is made to kill the one he believes is repentant, he will speak up. Otherwise, I'll try to get a post in between now and bedtime...
Trying this. Small tattoo, and hair the right color and mostly the right shape (though missing the braid, but you can't have everything), and way less "I'm a cute friendly halfling". Kind of girly, but it's still an improvement -- I agree about the weirdness of no uploading custom avatar.
Do we know if anyone asked about that in the website feedback/request area?
No. That is Gathien and forever will be. LOL
Edit: also, Patcher, it would seem as if I interrogated the crying one. Wanted to go ahead and say I'm usin Detect Evil on the prisoners, and Kragath would feel that if they truly are repentant, he should not detect evil in their hearts. He will relay these findings to the group. If it comes to it, feel free to DM talk this out for me if I don't get a chance and the group wants this info. I won't be totally free until about 7-8 pm EST.
The way Detect Evil works, you won't notice anything unless they're clerics, paladins or undead, or above level 5 - even if they are evil. (which they may or may not be.)
Also, Kragath feels we should press the advantage before the bandit leader lady notices an absence of this group.
Edit to Patcher: Oh. Well nvm then. Unskilled Sense Motive check then for the prisoner I interrogated. Would type up roll but break is ending.
Gauntlets thrown! OH SNAP! ;-P
And here I thought you guys were hired to map the area.
I know right? I blame the GM for getting us sidetracked with this annoying combat nonsense ;-P. LOL
You know, at this rate, I think I'm going to get myself kicked out of the party. :)
Am I missing some context here?
Gathien just seems to be involved in more arguments than I'd expected. :) The comment about getting kicked out was intended to be tongue-in-cheek -- I imagine that it's all in good fun (RP wise, I mean)
Actually, I believe Gathien is just worried that Kragath will find out about all those bawdy anti-paladin jokes he's been telling. I said Kragath wouldn't find out about it from me so I don't know what he's so worried about. ;)
I apologise if Oleg and Svetlana are difficult to deal with - they are good people, though, just jaded. Oleg's is essentially designed to be the headquarters (one that will likely expand too), and they appreciate your work and all.
Totally cool with it. Games where everybody just gets along perfectly are boring. There should occassionally be tension, like when the halfing kills people that have been offered surrender by the paladin. :-P
Or when the paladin fails to assume that lack of repentance might have something to do with innocence. *nod*
That's Gathien, all right, enemy of paladins and clerics everywhere. It's a good thing he'll be getting into Oracle later, otherwise he might never have access to healing.
;)
Or when the paladin fails to assume that lack of repentance might have something to do with innocence. *nod*
Wait...what?
*rereads IC thread*
...wait...WHAT!?!?
I'm so confused.
Or when the paladin fails to assume that lack of repentance might have something to do with innocence. *nod*Wait...what?
*rereads IC thread*
...wait...WHAT!?!?
I'm so confused.
Unless I was playing a Paladin of Shelyn, I think I would have a hard time with the notion of inferred repentance.
Unless I was playing a Paladin of Shelyn, I think I would have a hard time with the notion of inferred repentance.Or when the paladin fails to assume that lack of repentance might have something to do with innocence. *nod*Wait...what?
*rereads IC thread*
...wait...WHAT!?!?
I'm so confused.
I agree that the notion is likely only to be expected by followers of Shelyn - and possibly Sarenrae - but it's irrelevant. You aren't acting illogically.
I never expected the first encounter of the AP to 1: be such a breeze and 2: split the entire party. Then again, it's not the first time it's happened...
Hahaha, yeah, it is quite the interesting reaction to the first encounter. I, for one, am ready to move on, but the RP is just stalling it out, not a bad thing, just really creates a blur as to how much time has passed. I mean, In Game, how much time has gone by in the past day or 2 we've been discussing this? 5, 10 minutes?
Also, forgive me if I seem ignorant in regards to many aspects of this setting. Because, frankly, I am. First time playing in it ever, and first attempt at really playing Pathfinder ever. My group has all the books but doesn't play it often. L5R and Rogue Trader on the menu as of late for us.
Hahaha, yeah, it is quite the interesting reaction to the first encounter. I, for one, am ready to move on, but the RP is just stalling it out, not a bad thing, just really creates a blur as to how much time has passed. I mean, In Game, how much time has gone by in the past day or 2 we've been discussing this? 5, 10 minutes?
Also, forgive me if I seem ignorant in regards to many aspects of this setting. Because, frankly, I am. First time playing in it ever, and first attempt at really playing Pathfinder ever. My group has all the books but doesn't play it often. L5R and Rogue Trader on the menu as of late for us.
I reckon it took an hour before the bandits arrived - and with all the dialogue I'd say another hour of talking as you're walking back and forth, thinking, considering, ect.
If you have ANY questions about Golarion (or to a lesser extent, Brevoy), ask. I have the resources, and I'll divulge as much as I can (so long as it doesn't spoil the story, of course) to help you all get immersed in the campaign.
Just so people know, I've not become unresponsive -- I'm just not reacting to things while I'm off talking to the young, weepy prisoner. ;)
Nice, Patcher. More shades of grey. ;) This ought to be an HBO series... lol
Thank you. Truth be told, this is a little risky - and worse, it may take a lot of attention away from what you're actually supposed to do.
Okay, seeing as I had totally forgotten about the details of the dream myself, I'm going to just leave it up to a dice roll, and a tough one for Kragath at that.
Basically, I am personally giving him a bonus due to the fact that In Game, it's been less than a day since the dream was mentioned. Then I'm giving him a penalty because I forgot myself. Then another penalty because of the stress of the situation. Finally, another penalty due to the vague correlation between the two. Ultimately, doing an Intelligence check, 15 or higher he connects the bandits speaking to his father's dream, anything else he doesn't.
That settles that.
I'd argue that you not knowing doesn't mean your character forgot, but you do what you are comfortable with.
There's also the option of going back to the first page of the IC thread to remind yourself.
There's also the option of going back to the first page of the IC thread to remind yourself.
If it were me, that's what I'd do.
For what it's worth.
Wow, imagine how boring life would be had we just killed the lot of them in combat. ;)
And I would also go back and re-read that -- as you said, it's been days for us with other concerns like work and wives and an argument that took days to have. For Kragath, it was just yesterday (or today, depending on who's dream we're dealing with)
Haha, yeah. You'd probably be busy exploring the Stolen Lands without any arguments at all.
This has pretty much played itself out. I was planning on having Jonas announce the sentences and carry them out when Gathien had finished his questioning since he has basically come to a consensus with the paladin, but now Kragath has his duel to finish :-P. Well, Jonas was going to do that if no one physically stopped him.
I'm remember reading the dream bit and thinking, "Wow, that's pretty cool. Can't wait to see where that goes." And then I immediately forgot about it. Imagine at 1500 posts trying to go back and find a specific piece of information.
IMO, Kragath might possibly forget the dream thing momentarily, in the heat of the moment for example, but it seems very unlikely that he would forget if for any length of time.
Of course, if you don't use that "3" now, it might come back to haunt you later ;)
It is possible to overdo the tension aspect but I don't think it's a concern yet. In a tabletop game, if you're playing with a brand new group, most GM's will devote and entire session to creating the group. Everyone will discuss the nature of the game, talk about who's going to play what, discuss their backgrounds and the probably have a week's time at least to get settled into it before the first session. In a PbP game this all happens in almost the exact opposite order. You create your character in a near vacuum with no knowledge of who or what your teammates are going to consist of. Then, after play begins, the process of hammering out the characters roles, personalities, playstyles and whatnot begins (unless the game revolves solely around the mechanics of the characters).
Personally, I feel that is someone, especialy the DM, thinks a certain rp aspect is causing the game to drag out to the point of being a detriment they should say so. No one benefits from a game that stalls. PbP games are a unique best. I'm sure we can handle whatever it take to keep the game going at a decent pace.
Well, if you dislike the way it is going, feel free to ask me to put an end to it - though with this duel, it'll be over soon.
Agree with all the above. Wow. Love my rolls. O.o
Though the argument took a while, no doubt, I think it's kind of natural that it should. This was the first time everyone's talk and idea's were put to the test, and it needed to be hashed out. Or, as close to 'hashed out' as we could get it. I imagine that going forward this particular argument won't have any need to be this long.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to moving on. :)
EDIT: Also, making some popcorn for this fight.
Well, if you dislike the way it is going, feel free to ask me to put an end to it - though with this duel, it'll be over soon.
Oh no, I didn't mean that at all; quite the opposite in fact. Sorry if it came off the other way. I only meant that such tension is good as it helps make up for all the subtle interplay between players and characters that exists in a tabletop game but not a PbP game. I mentioned it only becasue anything can be overdon and I was worried that some might be getting annoyed with the, game time, days of bickering.
If Rorgrym even suspects that Kragath is in danger (Ingle screaming in dismay, the bandit yelling "Die, Lightbringer, die!" etc.) Rorgrym will rush out of the house and intervene; plowing into the bandit unarmed if necessary.
At a RP game IRL. Since I'm knocked out it kinda works out. I'll catch up on this later.
...Ingle screaming in dismay...
I wouldn't call it screaming. More of a very VERY manly squeal.
Well, if you dislike the way it is going, feel free to ask me to put an end to it - though with this duel, it'll be over soon.Oh no, I didn't mean that at all; quite the opposite in fact. Sorry if it came off the other way. I only meant that such tension is good as it helps make up for all the subtle interplay between players and characters that exists in a tabletop game but not a PbP game. I mentioned it only becasue anything can be overdon and I was worried that some might be getting annoyed with the, game time, days of bickering.
If Rorgrym even suspects that Kragath is in danger (Ingle screaming in dismay, the bandit yelling "Die, Lightbringer, die!" etc.) Rorgrym will rush out of the house and intervene; plowing into the bandit unarmed if necessary.
Oh, I took no offence, it was more a general statement. I'm here to entertain you, after all, and give you an epic adventure (or try, at least) - so if you do dislike something in regards of where the plot is headed, I'll respect that and make the necessary changes.
In the meanwhile, have an instrumental that in no way relates to the subject.
...Ingle screaming in dismay...I would.. call it... More of..very VERY...squeal.
Sorry Ingle, as you can see, you're post kind of broke up. No need to explain though; I understand. ;)
DM Patcher: If Rorgrym was unable to discern anything during the fight that would cause concern. He'll come out when the sound of fighting stops; mainly to see everyone's reaction as he fully expects to see a dead bandit on the ground.
Well, fighting's over now, so I suppose the sounds have stopped too.
And then there was silence?
Going to hit the hay shortly. Will update within 9-12 hours, depending on sleep and mood.
Sorry, Patcher. I was having such a sketchy time connecting to the site for awhile there that I gave up. It was taking 2 or 3 minutes just to refresh the page, and then it was 50/50 whether it would actually refresh or just give me a page unavailable message. Stupid internet....