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Scarab Sages

Male Dwarf 1 - Wizard

Here's the ooc thread guys.


Here is Jarrion, got to finish him a bit later.


I'll post as soon as I figure out my voice. I want something unique that doesn't get old over time.

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

Dot. We'll go with the Stoic machine spirit oddity I think, thanks GM.

I will make a profile for the ship so it can all be tracked.


Male Human Rank 1 Missionary

Aww, now we only get +4 profit from trade endevours

I think we can live with that

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

GM, starting crew population and morale please (max of 102 and 105 respectively)?

My posting will be a little limited today and tomorrow but should then go back to normal. I am currently at my mothers then travelling back home.

Sovereign Court

Myself and Jeramiah were discussing the ship's name over MSN. How does 'The Steadfast' sound?


Heres the ship profile. The name can still be changed until the profile makes ten posts so plenty of time. I suggest bookmarking the profile as I have rather a lot of aliases.


The Steadfast sounds good to me.


Male Human Rank 1 Missionary
Core Rulebook, page 213 wrote:
transports, raiders, frigates and other vessels of equivalent size (i.e. hull integrity and available space) can turn up to 90 degrees to the left or right. Unless otherwise stated, all other ship may turn up to 45 degrees instead

We are classed as a transport, so RAW we get 90 degree turns. However, we are most definately not of equivalent size to any transport listed in that book. On the other hand, we're going so slowly that we would naturally be able to turn more tightly than a speed 5 cruiser, and a mass conveyor would probably need effective docking thrusters. What do you think Mercrutio?

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

Well RAW is pretty indicative that we get 90 degree turns :) but I wouldn't object to a ruling that we get 45 degrees considering our sluggishness.

I've tried to layout information in a useful manner on the profile. Once we have a ship backstory i'll add that.

Coming from Battleflee,t Tristan will also be giving everyone specific titles that he expects to be used. He will wish to be referred to as Lord-Captain and will give suitable titles to his seven senior commanders.


As a note, Eli gives a -1 to starting PF.


Hi team :)

As you may well know, Captain Tristan comes from a middle rank in the Battlefleet. As such, he is going to issue official titles to each of the seven of you which he expects you to be addressed by. Tristan is not particularily democratic on this decision, so if you aren't happy with the title given please speak up asap. The officer roster is viewable on this profile (The Steadfast). I'll post it here for reference-

Senior Officer Titles & Roster-

Rogue Trader- Lord Captain Tristan Casmirre
Void-Master- First Officer Eli Kage
Explorator- Enginseer Prime Macharius Sarvus
Seneschal- High Factotum Havelock Iacton
Missionary- Confesser Jeramiah Lux
Arch Militant- Master-At-Arms Lucius Azrael
Navigator- Navigator Primaris ??? ???
Astropath Transcendent- Choir-Master Jarvis Atercarina

I have suggestions for most of the career paths if you don't like what I have chosen. I think Confessor could sound pretty bad ass for the missionary, for example.

Edit 1: Cardinal to Confessor


Male Human Rank 1 Missionary

Cardinal is too high ranking for a Rogue Trader's advisor. I'll go for Confessor I think - they're known for being even more zealous than most priests of the Emporer


Should we be addressed by our titles or our ranks? For example, in Eli's case, his position on the ship would be First Officer, but his rank would (probably) be Commander.

So in formal situations he's: Commander Eli Kage, First Officer of the voidship Steadfast, flagship of the Casmirre Dynasty.

Whereas for the purposes of day to day address he'd be Commander Kage.


Male Human Career Path: Arch-Militant

I like The Steadfast as a ship name, and Master-At-Arms fits well for Lucius. Intro post incoming.

Sovereign Court

Eli Kage wrote:

Should we be addressed by our titles or our ranks? For example, in Eli's case, his position on the ship would be First Officer, but his rank would (probably) be Commander.

So in formal situations he's: Commander Eli Kage, First Officer of the voidship Steadfast, flagship of the Casmirre Dynasty.

Whereas for the purposes of day to day address he'd be Commander Kage.

The names are intended to function as ranks. Most of them I have lifted from Into the Storm and Battlefleet: Koronus.


Well, right. I realize that they're from Into the Void. But those are positions and not always a rank. Captains are always called a Captain no matter their rank, but other ship officers get called by their rank, and only sometimes along with their title. First Officer is a title, but not really a rank.

Ranks would include (for the imperial navy officers, at least):
Captain
Commander
Lt. Commander
Lieutenant
Sub-Lieutenant
Midshipman

Not all of the senior officers would hold such a rank, but some would (for example, I'd expect that Jeremiah wouldn't have a rank, but would have a title and position.) In fact, many of the characters might not have a military-ish rank, but would still have a position of power on the ship.

It's a bit more complicated, but Navy (even, apparently, or especially) the space Navy of Warhammer 40k, is known for their tradition and rules.

Edit: I should note that if the intent is to have a rank model that's different from the imperial navy model then that's fine. My character will balk at it, but he'll use it as necessary. And it doesn't much matter to me.

Further edit: It occurred to me that a TV example of this dynamic might be useful. If you're familiar with Star Trek, Commander Riker's rank is Commander, while his position on the ship is First Officer.

Sovereign Court

Its a mixture of Navy ranking and Tristan's acceptance that things function a little differently in a RT dynasty. For example, in the Navy Lord-Captain is actually slightly too high a rank for him (he was a couple of steps below).

The intention is essentially to have a rank model different from the navy. The seven of you are considered the only true senior officers on the ship and will get the final say on your areas of expertise most of the time.

Edit: Would you rather Eil's rank be Commander?


Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:

Its a mixture of Navy ranking and Tristan's acceptance that things function a little differently in a RT dynasty. For example, in the Navy Lord-Captain is actually slightly too high a rank for him (he was a couple of steps below).

The intention is essentially to have a rank model different from the navy. The seven of you are considered the only true senior officers on the ship and will get the final say on your areas of expertise most of the time.

Edit: Would you rather Eil's rank be Commander?

I think I'd rather his rank be Commander and position be First Officer. Mainly because I like the feel of navy tradition that the distinction brings and I think it fits the game pretty well. I think the fact that there are a bunch of non-military filling most of the senior ranks will cause the character enough of a headache to make that part interesting as it is.


Shortened my first name to get the full title in.

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

Revised-

Rogue Trader- Lord Captain Tristan Casmirre
Void-Master- Commander Eli Kage
Explorator- Enginseer Prime Macharius Sarvus
Seneschal- High Factotum Havelock Iacton
Missionary- Confesser Jeramiah Lux
Arch Militant- Master-At-Arms Lucius Azrael
Navigator- Navigator Primaris Jarrion Nostravi
Astropath Transcendent- Choir-Master Jarvis Atercarina

(Thanks GM)

Scarab Sages

Male Dwarf 1 - Wizard

The Navigator is Jarrion Nostravi- he has the second post in this thread.

I'll have to read up on the turning, but I tend to lean towards RAW, unless it really isn't clear or doesn't make sense. Give me a bit on that one.


Jarvis is still used to the management style of Tristan's father, so he is unaccustomed to using titles among the inner circle.

Sovereign Court

No need to justify it :). Tristan is subtly trying to remind him by addressing him by his title but doesn't want to be too pushy with a man with psykic powers.

The Exchange

Oh yeah, and Lucius does not modify the starting PF any.


Captain Tristan Casmirre wrote:
Actually we have to assume that transport is faster than characters are stating- because theres enough time in a ship combat turn (30 minutes) to get to any component and perform an action. I only had Tristan comment on it because Lucius included it in his narrative, and it was really just a colour scene.

Moved to ooc discussion:

Sure. On a 12k transport we'd have to assume there's some fast way of traveling between decks. But even so, for an unscheduled meeting characters may be in the middle of doing something (like a workout), or they may have been sleeping. The travel time itself might not be more than 10 minutes (or so), but preparing themselves for a formal meeting will. Perhaps an hour is a bit long (I'm guessing none of the characters are throwing on makeup), but certainly more than a few minutes has to pass.

Given that Lucius mentioned he hurried, it's more probable that his character thinks he's late (because he felt it took a while) than any of our characters would think he's late. Again, characters can be unreasonable, and it's not the biggest deal in the world. But let's not write in failings of other characters unless the player actually wants that to be a failing of the character.

Sovereign Court

I don't understand what you seem to have taken issue with- if the player of Lucius feels I am creating faults or plucking failings out of thin air let him speak up.

It seemed from Lucius' narrative that he was arriving late or at least assumed he was; either way Tristan was merely toying with him and actually complimented him and attempted to put him at ease (eventually) rather than reprimanding him. It was also mostly a jibe at the Navy's insistence on the death penalty for any tiny offence.

I made no assumption that he was slow, I took it from cues in Lucius' post (its possible I misinterpreted his use of the word tardiness). I felt we were both building our characters and finding their respective voices and mannerisms in those posts.

I'm not looking to play the RT like a dick. I'm hoping he will be an enabler of the other PC's, not a tyrant or dictator.


I'm not really taking issue with anything. My comment was actually directed at Havelock's thought that the navigator was late, and to remind him that the navigator might not actually be late (depending on how the navigator introduces themselves).

But to your point, Lucius' narrative wasn't that he was late. His character apologized for being late. I'm just pointing out what this tells us about his character (that he's the type of person to apologize for being late when he rushed to get to an unscheduled meeting). In this light the Captain appears to be unreasonable. Being magnanimous in allowing someone to be late when they weren't really late isn't actually being magnanimous.

The actual bottom line is that we shouldn't be writing in character failures for characters not our own. An earlier example would be claiming to be on the bridge and reprimanding Sarvus for reporting to Eli. I don't think anyone was insulted, and he rolled with it. But it's something to watch out for as it can cause a lot of issues, especially in a pbp game. It's not a huge issue, I'd just prefer it not to become a habit and *become* a huge issue.

Sovereign Court

You seem to be interpreting Tristan's actions and words in a different manner than I intended for him to come across, but that is the danger of the toneless, written word. I'll attempt to craft my posts with more care in future :).

GM- What crew population and morale do you want us to start on? I still have the values listed as ???/102 for crew pop and ???/105 for morale.

Scarab Sages

Male Dwarf 1 - Wizard

Sorry I've been gone, I had a crazy day yesterday. Go ahead and put both at full.

Scarab Sages

Male Dwarf 1 - Wizard

Hrm, I'd really rather have our Nav here before we begin, but I don't know where he has gone. If he doesn't post by 22.00 Mountain Time, I'll figure something out.


Time spent at shore makes for a happy and wholesome crew!

Values updated.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Sorry had my weekend go nuts. I do not often get to post on the weekend. I'll go finish him up and post IC later this evening.


Male Human Rank 1 Missionary

Just out of curiosity, what do the strings of 1s and 0s that Sarvus sometimes recites sound like? At the moment I'm imagining the sound of a dial-up modem, for some reason.


That's pretty much exactly what I'm picturing when I type it as well. My basic idea is : = comma and :: = period. The binary represents information that Sarvus has put into his cogitator banks but not his flesh memory.


Male Human Adept WS 41, BS 37, S 23, T 40, Ag 28, Int 23, Per 33, WP 40, Fel 33, Wounds 10/10, FP 4/4

Hmmm, I should not make posts that assume what others do; I'll try to avoid that in the future.


Male Human Rank 1 Missionary

If Mercrutio doesn't reappear by tuesday perhaps I should take over running the game until gets back? Since it's a published adventure we're doing there's not too much danger of me messing up anything he has planned.

Sovereign Court

If your happy to do so that might be best.

Shadow Lodge

I wouldn't object.


That'd be fine by me.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

It is fine by me as well.

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

Well, its been a week since his last post. People do get overwhelmed and just disappear sometimes. Shall we have Jeramiah take over tomorrow if we don't hear anything? We have each other on MSN so between us we should be able to keep pushing the game at a nice pace. If Mercrutio returns we'll switch back to him as GM, so best keep Jeramiah as a GMPC for now.


Sounds like we have a plan then.


Male Human Engineer 1/Gamer 4

Ok, I'll switch to using my default alias then. First IC post will be up within twelve hours once I've properly studied the adventure path.


Male Human Engineer 1/Gamer 4

Also, for the purposes of fate points and other 'once per session' abilities, I will be treating each chapter as one session. I may break chapter 2 into two sessions if you get involved in a lot of the optional content. Though hopefully Mercrutio will be back long before then.

The Exchange

Alrighty then.

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

How about for tracking profit factor, acquisitions made for the dynasty, information on NPC's we meet, rumours etc. Havelock creates a seperate profile called Havelock's Dataslates or something?


WS- 41, BS- 28, S- 42, T- 41, Ag- 31, Int- 39, Per- 26, WP- 42, Fel- 46, Wounds 12/15, FP 0/2, Awareness: 6/16(sight) Reasonable Commissar

Something like this?

Sovereign Court

Male 40K Human Career Path: Rogue Trader

Apart from that disturbing avatar that makes me think youare Gorbacz... Yes :)

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