The way it's worded it sounds like a bladed scarf is a viable option. However, you would either be able to wield it as a bladed scarf or as a whip. When used as a whip it would not benefit from the bladed scarf's enchantments and vise versa. Even if you did get the bladed scarfs bonuses, they would overlap not stack.
So, in the case of
Base: bladed scarf +1, defending
Mortal usher level 7 --> +4, holy, flaming
The resulting weapon would be
Result: bladed scarf +4, defending, holy, flaming
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These bonuses can be added to the whip to increase its enhancement bonus to a maximum of +5 (minimum +1), or they can be used to add any of the following weapon properties...
The cap applies only when using the ability to increase the scarf enhancement bonus, which is usually 0 clothing, not when choosing the weapon property option. Therefore, a 7th level Mortal Usher has a pool of 7 enhancement bonus points. When applying them to increase the whip enhancement bonus to hit and damage, it caps to 5. Or, they can be used to add, say, Brilliant Energy (+4) and Holy (+2) weapon properties. The enhancement bonus pool then is reduced to 7-(4+2)=1, which can be added to the whip as enhancement bonus.
The problem with the Bladed Scarf is that, if you want to use it together with this ability, it mechanically counts as a different weapon, specifically a whip, which in my opinion implies that:
1) you cannot use preexisting weapon enhancements anymore. I would rule it similarly to the case of a magical weapon being used as an improvised one: a +1 Longspear being used as an improvised mace to attack adjacent enemies loses the +1 enhancement bonus, despite being physically the same weapon. Similarly, a +1 Defending Bladed Scarf used as a whip loses the scarf-related enhancements, as it is being used as a whip.
2, which is the actual problem) it will be utterly useless against pretty much any opponent, unless you have the Whip Mastery feat, since there is no Deadly properties among those listed. I would argue that the Brilliant Energy property would allow you to damage enemies with manufactured armors, as the whip would simply ignore them. Similarly, I would allow the use of the Disruption ability on undeads that get hit, even if they do not get harmed. The two abilities, put together on the whip, nicely fit the concept of the class: as soon as you get this ability, you can get a +1 Brilliant Energy, Disruptive whip, which is virtually able to slay both living and undead creatures, but not constructs, which is exactly what the class is about.
Therefore, my answer would be:
Base: bladed scarf +1, defending
Mortal usher level 7 --> whip +4, holy, flaming, unable to harm anyone with armor bonus (unless you apply the Brilliant Energy/Disruptive property) or 3+ natural armor
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Sure. Once you are using it as a +N, X whip, I don't see why you couln'd add extra weapon properties and enhancements via the proper class abilities. In the case of Warrior Spirit, just remember to choose your main weapon within the flails weapon group, or you would not be able to apply it to the whip.
I believe, however, that Whip Mastery would be enough to make it usable.
just wondering..:
"... and they can be used as a magic whip that can be wielded even if the mortal usher’s hands are full...."
how does this work with two handed weapon or two weapon fighting? is it an off hand attack? main hand? no hand?
im guessing if using a two handed weapon it would go into off hand weapon penalties. but since it's not wielded in the off hand should it even take these penalties?
was going to build a 'spawn' vigilante. the fact the 'Whip of Vengeance' talent they can take give the improved format at level 6, and you can't join the prestige class before level 6 seem to work just right.
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just wondering..:
"... and they can be used as a magic whip that can be wielded even if the mortal usher’s hands are full...."how does this work with two handed weapon or two weapon fighting? is it an off hand attack? main hand? no hand?
im guessing if using a two handed weapon it would go into off hand weapon penalties. but since it's not wielded in the off hand should it even take these penalties?was going to build a 'spawn' vigilante. the fact the 'Whip of Vengeance' talent they can take give the improved format at level 6, and you can't join the prestige class before level 6 seem to work just right.
If you use it alone, it counts as a normal attack. If you use it to attack on the same round of your main weapon, all attacks would incur in normal TWF penalties: -6 on your main weapon, -10 on the whip, or -4/-4 with the TWF feat.
I do not think you can add the whip to an already existing TWF routine, as it would be Multiweapon Fighting purview, which explicitly requires multiple limbs.
I'm confused, and not sure I properly understood how the ability works when enhancing the weapon.
Can you do a +5 Holy Whip? (So +2 in properties, and +5 from the (7-2) remaining points) Or do you need to cap at +5, properties included?
I'm sorry, you covered the issue, but the wording really confuses me in your answer, I think I need an actual example to understand this ability limit.
I'm confused, and not sure I properly understood how the ability works when enhancing the weapon.
Can you do a +5 Holy Whip? (So +2 in properties, and +5 from the (7-2) remaining points) Or do you need to cap at +5, properties included?
I'm sorry, you covered the issue, but the wording really confuses me in your answer, I think I need an actual example to understand this ability limit.
you can do a +5 Holy Whip. You get +7 worth of bonuses and/or abilities that can be applied to the weapon. But you aren't allowed to have more than a +5 for the bonus side.
you can do a +5 Holy Whip. You get +7 worth of bonuses and/or abilities that can be applied to the weapon. But you aren't allowed to have more than a +5 for the bonus side.
Ok, thanks for the help. Wanted to be sure I got that right, since I like the PrC and may attempt it at some point.