I think I have this right, but I wanted to double check as this is my first time really crafting a magic item. I'm looking to make a ring of Grace for my PLD. The idea of never provoking attack of opportunities is to good to be true. from what I'm understanding the formula to make a continuous use magic ring is; Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp. With that formula it should be 1(spell)x 1(caster lvl)x 2,000, now i'm assuming I need to multiply that by 4 "If a continuous item has an effect based on a spell with a duration measured in rounds, multiply the cost by 4." Bringing this to a total of 8k to make the ring, right? That seems pretty cost effective to never provoke AoO's.
Ya thats right. You can do some preaty ridiculous things with crafting magic items. Check with you DM first. I've made the mistake of letting my players craft thier magic items before until I got a half giant zen archer with constant englarge , gravitiy bow and true strike
Grace does not have a duration of rounds. It only lasts until the end of your turn. Also, the ring doesn't remove all AoOs, just those caused by movement.
You also have to remember, those prices are guideline. The DM has final say in the price. And a ring like that would cost more than the guidelines indicate.
considering I'm the DM I think this is awesome for melee characters. Just wanted to make sure I have the basis for the price down. To craft would cost 8k so "store" price would be 16k (by the book) I'd bump it up to 20~25k for the ring, but considering the would be crafting.... he'd need to be a lvl 10 PLD, kinda works itself out.
Those prices on page 550 are the buying price of the items. Crafting them costs half that. So by the table, that ring of Grace costs 8k to buy, or 4k to make.
Well since its a level 2 cleric spell, I would base the calculation on the cleric. But 20-25 is a pretty good price, and honestly I would not pay that much just to ignore attacks of opportunity from moving. A ring of protection would by my choice, especially since paladins already have a pretty good AC.
Those prices on page 550 are the buying price of the items. Crafting them costs half that. So by the table, that ring of Grace costs 8k to buy, or 4k to make.
that table is for pricing from what I read;
The cost for the materials is subsumed in the cost for creating the ring. Ring costs are difficult to determine. Refer to Table: Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values and use the ring prices in the ring descriptions as a guideline. Creating a ring generally costs half the ring's market price.
Well since its a level 2 cleric spell, I would base the calculation on the cleric.
it's a first lvl PLD spell, and since the PLD is making it, i'm using lvl 1.
I'm just glad my math is right lol
that table is for pricing from what I read;The cost for the materials is subsumed in the cost for creating the ring. Ring costs are difficult to determine. Refer to Table: Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values and use the ring prices in the ring descriptions as a guideline. Creating a ring generally costs half the ring's market price.
It is for pricing. An item has 2 gold values listed: its price, and its cost. Price if for buying, cost is for crafting. You'll note that quote also says the cost to craft an item is half its price.
If you need further proof, look at Pearls of Power. The table says the price is spell level x 1000 gold, meaning the price for a level 1 Pearl of Power is 1000 gold. Now look at the item description. The price (listed near the beginning of the item) does say 1000 gold. Now look near the end, and it lists the cost (to make it) at 500 gold. You can do the same for magic armor and weapons.
Wouldnt the crafting price be 48,000?
spell level (2)x caster level (3) x 2000 (for continuous) 12,000 then times 4 for duration measured in rounds. Caster level is because thats the minimum caster level to cast the spell, or can you cast at a lower caster level?
Wouldnt the crafting price be 48,000?
spell level (2)x caster level (3) x 2000 (for continuous) 12,000 then times 4 for duration measured in rounds. Caster level is because thats the minimum caster level to cast the spell, or can you cast at a lower caster level?
Depends on who makes it. If it was a cleric or oracle, then the formula is 2x3x2000. But if a Paladin makes it, since it is a 1st level paladin spell, it would be 1x1x2000. Both multiplied by 4.
And since he specified a paladin was making it, the second price is used.
Paladins can't cast 1st level spells until 4th or 5th level depending on their charisma , so 32,000 or 40,000
Paladins can't cast 1st level spells until 4th or 5th level depending on their charisma , so 32,000 or 40,000
Doesn't matter. First of all, at 4th or 5th level they only have a caster level or 1 or 2. And you can set the caster level at whatever you want when making an item, as long as it is at least the minimum to cast the spell, and no higher than whatever your current caster level is.
Since it is a first level spell, the minimum caster level is 1. So 1x1x2000.
ah I see, makes sence now , though good luck finding a paladin with the proper feat .
Well, the original poster did specify that he had a paladin character that wanted to make this, so that is already taken care of. Now, if they were trying to find someone to buy such a ring off of, then it would be a problem.
ah I see, makes sence now , though good luck finding a paladin with the proper feat .
The only pre-req for forge ring is caster lvl 7, so a lvl10+ PLD can get the feat no problem.
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good to know I was reading that table wrong, the PC will be even happier that it's cheaper now!