Taldor expansion to the East?


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When you look at a map of the Roman Empire, you'll notice it expanded in every direction. Now why didn't Taldor expanded freely to the East? I know there is the World's Edge Mountains or something, but the Romans had the Alps up North, and they eventually crossed them in order to conquer Helvetia (present-day Switzerland).

I also know the OOC explanation: "Taldor is at the edge of the map so we didn't want to show anything East of that". However, I was hoping anyone had thought of this already, and what conclussion you guys have arrived.

Thanks in advance!

ZOOROOS

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The Padishah Empire of Kelesh lies to the East. If you read the World Guide, Taldor and the Kelesh have been at odds for a long time. That and the Worlds End mountains channeled Taldoran conquest to the North and West.

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Taldor borders Kelesh on its east. Similar to how the Byzantine empire bordered the Parthian empire to their own east in the real world.

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Narno the Necromancer wrote:

When you look at a map of the Roman Empire, you'll notice it expanded in every direction. Now why didn't Taldor expanded freely to the East? I know there is the World's Edge Mountains or something, but the Romans had the Alps up North, and they eventually crossed them in order to conquer Helvetia (present-day Switzerland).

I also know the OOC explanation: "Taldor is at the edge of the map so we didn't want to show anything East of that". However, I was hoping anyone had thought of this already, and what conclussion you guys have arrived.

Thanks in advance!

ZOOROOS

The real world reason is becuase to the east of Taldor we didn't have a map for them to expand into.

The in-world reason is that the mountains block expansion, and beyond that there's desert that isn't worth expanding into for a bit, and beyond THAT is Kelesh, which is the MAIN reason Taldor didn't expand east. They didn't have the power to openly expand into Kelesh.

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Narno the Necromancer wrote:

When you look at a map of the Roman Empire, you'll notice it expanded in every direction. Now why didn't Taldor expanded freely to the East? I know there is the World's Edge Mountains or something, but the Romans had the Alps up North, and they eventually crossed them in order to conquer Helvetia (present-day Switzerland).

I also know the OOC explanation: "Taldor is at the edge of the map so we didn't want to show anything East of that". However, I was hoping anyone had thought of this already, and what conclussion you guys have arrived.

Thanks in advance!

ZOOROOS

Beside the reasons James gave Taldor is more like Byzantium and the Eastern Roman empire than Rome.

Byzantium tried some expansion toward the east but the Persian empire was capable to stop them while the Byzantium was strong and aggressive.
Lately it was still strong but it lacked the willingness to expand. The risk of a victorious general supplanting the current ruler was too strong so most of the time if a general was too successful he was substituted, undermined in a way to make him fall or plainly eliminated.
Treating your good generals that way tend to remove every chance of expansion.

I see Taldor the same way. They are still strong and could retake at least part of what they have lost but the rulers fear successful generals and corruption abound.


It does make me think the Eastern slopes of the World´s Edge Mountains could shelter some interesting nations with more contact with Taldor and it`s predecessor states... but so out of the way, and with not much else that way to draw Taldor`s attention, that they`re semi-forgotten about, and dealing with savage hordes from the desert occupies most of their own attention.


The Eastern Roman Empire analogy makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks a lot, folks!

Also, is there any information in the published material about the World's End Mountains? Some monsters, humanoid tribes, etc.?

Thanks again :D

Sczarni

Narno the Necromancer wrote:

The Eastern Roman Empire analogy makes a lot of sense, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks a lot, folks!

Also, is there any information in the published material about the World's End Mountains? Some monsters, humanoid tribes, etc.?

Thanks again :D

according to the wiki page there is a dwarf sky citadel there

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