Cosmopolitan feat question


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Does this feat (APG, page 156) mean you gain either two INT skills, or two CHA skills or two WIS skills?

Or does it mean you gain two skills as long as they're INT, CHA or WIS-based?

ie can you select Heal and Bluff, for example?


The Far Wanderer wrote:

Does this feat (APG, page 156) mean you gain either two INT skills, or two CHA skills or two WIS skills?

Or does it mean you gain two skills as long as they're INT, CHA or WIS-based?

ie can you select Heal and Bluff, for example?

The second one.


Kierato wrote:
The Far Wanderer wrote:

Does this feat (APG, page 156) mean you gain either two INT skills, or two CHA skills or two WIS skills?

Or does it mean you gain two skills as long as they're INT, CHA or WIS-based?

ie can you select Heal and Bluff, for example?

The second one.

Are you sure? :-)


I only post if I am sure, but I have been wrong before. I am pretty confidant with this one.


Kierato wrote:
I only post if I am sure, but I have been wrong before. I am pretty confidant with this one.

I only ask because of the Hermean Blood feat from the Inner Sea World Guide. Its wording is a bit more explicit but it limits the skills chosen to the same ability. True, that can be any ability rather than the mental ones, but Cosmopolitan (which also gives you the two extra languages) is by comparison a very useful little feat...


Wording pretty clear in my opinion. If the intention was to restrict to two skills of the same attribute, it would have been worded "Two Int skills, two wis skills, or two Cha skills." instead of "Two Int, Wis or Cha skills".

And if your GM is being a d-bag, shoot for Additional Traits instead, and grab two traits that grants you the desired skills as class skills.


Kamelguru wrote:

Wording pretty clear in my opinion. If the intention was to restrict to two skills of the same attribute, it would have been worded "Two Int skills, two wis skills, or two Cha skills." instead of "Two Int, Wis or Cha skills".

And if your GM is being a d-bag, shoot for Additional Traits instead, and grab two traits that grants you the desired skills as class skills.

Yes, that would have been more conclusive wording but sometimes things just aren't as clear as you'd like.

Additional Traits has been a favourite from the get-go, though not all skills are available through traits.


The Far Wanderer wrote:
Kamelguru wrote:

Wording pretty clear in my opinion. If the intention was to restrict to two skills of the same attribute, it would have been worded "Two Int skills, two wis skills, or two Cha skills." instead of "Two Int, Wis or Cha skills".

And if your GM is being a d-bag, shoot for Additional Traits instead, and grab two traits that grants you the desired skills as class skills.

Yes, that would have been more conclusive wording but sometimes things just aren't as clear as you'd like.

Additional Traits has been a favorite from the get-go, though not all skills are available through traits.

Also, you cannot choose more than one talent from a list normally.


How does Cosmopolitan handle the Craft, Perform, or Profession skills? Does the feat enable the character to select "Diplomacy and Perform" (both CHA skills), and now count all branches of the Perform Skill as class skills?

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