Ah yes, Libya.....
Khadaffi is still advancing, using new tactics, rebels are still advancing only to retreat in full force whenever somebody shoots at them.
In a few weeks I predict another showdown near Benghazi.
Technicals are just so Mad Max + photo's of reactions to the above mentioned airstrikes
If you browse through all the pages you understand that the rebels will never ever win.
Boots on the grounds - it is about to happen.
Discuss
Boots on the grounds - it is about to happen.
Discuss
Link? I've not seen a news article that actually says that western powers are deploying ground force. That said I'd not be shocked if it took place. France just successfully wrapped up a mission in Cote d'Ivoire using mainly helicopter gunships. Hence they may be fairly confident they can do roughly the same thing here. All that said their general modus operandi in that campaign was to wait for their preferred side to get roughly stuck in with the side they don't like and then pave the way forward using their military assets - that wraps things up quickly after word because their preferred side is on hand to waltz forward once the French have cleared the way.
Link? I've not seen a news article that actually says that western powers are deploying ground force. That said I'd not be shocked if it took place. France just successfully wrapped up a mission in Cote d'Ivoire using mainly helicopter gunships. Hence they may be fairly confident they can do roughly the same thing here. All that said their general modus operandi in that campaign was to wait for their preferred side to get roughly stuck in with the side they don't like and then pave the way forward using their military assets - that wraps things up quickly after word because their preferred side is on hand to waltz forward once the French have cleared the way.Boots on the grounds - it is about to happen.
Discuss
Maybe a little premature, but Monday we got this little bit, which made me mad as hell, because it is wrong bad.
I thought it served as a little warming up for the public.
You might want to translate the article a bit, because it is in Dutch.
So we tried to kill Khadaffi, failed to do that, but we did hit some family members....
This whole war (yes it is a war) is turning out to an epic failure: rebels can't win, we (the west) hae lost any high morale ground we might have had and we are going to reap the whirlwind now.
You have 1 billion in gold and they just killed your kid. What are you going to do?
|
Hmmm. Yes he has one billion dollars ... maybe.
But he has to spend it to pay for his mostly mercenary troops, since a large part of his regulars have defected to the rebels from the start.
Mercenaries are not cheap you know ... and money eventually runs out.
So, MAYBE NATO killed one of his kids : care to ask any victims of the Lockerbie bombing how they care ?
Besides, all the money he spends now fighting at home won't be spent invading neighbouring countries, as he tended to do in the past with Chad.
Hmmm. Yes he has one billion dollars ... maybe.
1) But he has to spend it to pay for his mostly mercenary troops, since a large part of his regulars have defected to the rebels from the start.
2) Mercenaries are not cheap you know ... and money eventually runs out.
3) So, MAYBE NATO killed one of his kids : care to ask any victims of the Lockerbie bombing how they care ?
4) Besides, all the money he spends now fighting at home won't be spent invading neighbouring countries, as he tended to do in the past with Chad.
1) I believe that the regulars that defected to the rebel side are not of a high enough capability to change the battlefield.
2) Mercenaries do cost a bundle, but my guess is that each mercenary currently deployed costs (far) less than $1000 a day/week/month.
3) The fighting fire with fire / doing evil things to evil people = good argument.
4) I don't care about chad, egypt etc. I care that a) we did it b) we missed and c) that Khadaffi now has motivation to hurt all participating Nato countries (sadly including mine).
So we f$!@ed up and now cannot afford to lose.
I don't think there is a question of lose. There never is losing, there is just carrying things far enough that the expense can't be justified anymore. Heck getting involved in the first place, we couldn't justify that expense.
|
|
Rebels have entered Tripoli, celebrations in Green Square.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/Libya
I hope the outlook stays good.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Interested to find out what happens to Ghaddafi. The regime seemed to crumble very quickly after what was a pretty slow start. I mean for some where in the area of 5 months it seemed like things where pretty much stalemate and then its been nothing but one rebel victory on the heels of another in rapid succession for about the last 5 weeks. Tripoli in particular was fast - I was not even expecting them to start for something like a week.
Its almost odd to hear something where one actually feels like the West backed the correct horse and it worked out. I'm beginning to think we ought to start getting the French to to be in charge of deciding which wars in places with names we cannot pronounce to get in on. They have a surprisingly good record post 1962 Algeria.
Ghadaffi is dead
Based on the footage in which he is shown to be dead, the fight is over and about to start. I expect that tribal warfare is about to start (soon).
You reap what you sow, and this Nato (war) mission is still not something that I am backing.
Based on the footage in which he is shown to be dead, the fight is over and about to start. I expect that tribal warfare is about to start (soon).
You reap what you sow, and this Nato (war) mission is still not something that I am backing.
Maybe, maybe not. You haven't been very accurate so far with your doomsaying.
Anyway, whatever happens now is the lybians' business. The only sure thing is that nobody will step in to "give" them democracy: if they want it, they will have to grab it themselves and run.
Maybe, maybe not. You haven't been very accurate so far with your doomsaying.
I'll grant you that, must be all that nato bombing that ruined my predictions
Anyway, whatever happens now is the lybians' business. The only sure thing is that nobody will step in to "give" them democracy: if they want it, they will have to grab it themselves and run.
True, nobody will give it to them, doubt it if they will go for it.