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Dragonsong wrote:
Power Word Unzip wrote:

SIDE NOTE: We have no White Castles in North Carolina outside of the grocery store's freezer section. The one time I ever tried them from an actual restaurant was in New York City a few months back. They made me sick to my stomach, and tasted far worse than the freezer variation. I hope that location isn't representative of them.

OTOH, we do have Sonic Drive-Thru here - the only fast food chain where I've ever had a worker yell a geek insult at me as I pulled off after seeing some D&D books in my backseat: "Call of Cthulhu is way better!"

Krystal's is the southern states White Castle.

Just curious what part of NC? Cause you could opt for Parker's, Bills or any of the numerous eastern NC pulled pork BBQ joints.

\been almost a decade since I've had NC BBQ. Ohh how I Miss it.

Now Dark Mistress are you comparing the addictive quality of White Castle to the cocaine laced chicken of Chick-fil-a?

Krystal's is awesome! Now I have to go there for breakfast..[checks time].. yeah, I can still make it...

They have the Frozen White Castles down here, but they are bloody awful...


Jandrem wrote:
I've been really curious to check this board game out. I'm a huge Ravenloft fan, have almost the complete 3e collection minus one 2 books(Legacy of Blood and the Terrifying Tales book). The campaign depth is great, but sometimes I want to just run something like a one-night romp through the haunted castle, ya know?

My group has played through "Expedition" twice, so when I bought this board game I think we were all a bit worried it was going to disappoint by comparison.

It did not, in any way.

Castle Ravenloft does a great job of making you feel urgency and panic - the scenarios are generally bad situations that get worse and worse with the passing of time, just by following the natural mechanics of the game. Enemies spawn on players' turns depending on which board tiles are laid, so the difficulty automatically scales to the number of players involved. The cards very specifically explain how each enemy type acts on its turn, and I found this to be a great approach to a "DM-less" game.

Additionally, the environment cards which are picked up during the game have some annoying and even outright devastating effects - players may take damage every time they use an item, or multiple enemies may spawn on your turn until the environment card is replaced with another, equally horrible, environmental effect.

The difficulty is also increased significantly by the fact that the game is designed to encourage teamwork - if one of your party dies, you all lose. So it becomes a battle against natural attrition, trying to keep EVERYONE alive until you meet your goal for a given scenario.

EDIT: We've not played in a few months, as the dracolich kicked our butts three times in rapid succession. We'll have to come back to it someday soon, though. Anybody tried Wrath of Ashardalon for comparison yet?

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Re: ToM:Bo9S
Iron Heart Surge needing clarification/errata? You can put it with the 'what happens when my psicrystal dies' questions that WotC was constantly badgered with and never answered. I also remember talks of a massive ramp up of errata and corrections promised. What we didn't know was they were calling it 4e*

Re:ToM
The Shadowdancer/Truenamer would have benefited future classes, much as the Duskblade benefited from the Hexblade** and the Psychic Warrior.

*

Spoiler:
Yes, 4e snark given. That said, I know a lot of people felt slighted with the promised errata updates never materialized

**

Spoiler:
Somewhere on the old WotC boards, one of the designers took a look at the Hexblade through the lessons learned. And I think Ari posted a 'fixed' Shadowcaster. The truenamer though was doomed. The DCs quickly scaled so high you needed skill augmented items to even hope to function. Paizo took that lesson to the bard and divroced DCs from Perform checks.

Shadow Lodge

Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!

Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.

Scarab Sages

Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.

What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.


Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.

Get out of here with that Popeyes garbage. Unless you are talking about Zaxby's or Bojangles chances are it isnt amazing chicken no mnatter where you go.

But it seems like we are heading inot regional BBQ dispute territory.


"You know what time it is!"-Flavor Flav


Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.

Agreed. Chick-fil-a has nothing that comes close to Popeye's red beans & rice. Nothing.


Jandrem wrote:
pres man wrote:

Got my Castle Ravenloft game and we played a quest last night. I believe everyone had a good time, though we did fail the mission (ran out of healing surges). I can definitely see the 4th edition mechanics influence in the game, and I can see how it could be an introduction to that edition.

Anyway, still sticking with 3.5, but thanks WotC for a cool board game and I'm sure I'll find uses for the tiles and miniatures in my normal game.

** spoiler omitted **

I've been really curious to check this board game out. I'm a huge Ravenloft fan, have almost the complete 3e collection minus one 2 books(Legacy of Blood and the Terrifying Tales book). The campaign depth is great, but sometimes I want to just run something like a one-night romp through the haunted castle, ya know?

Sign me up when/if you do.


Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.

You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.


Isn't there a saying "The fanbase divided shall never be united!"?

Scarab Sages

Dragonsong wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.

Get out of here with that Popeyes garbage. Unless you are talking about Zaxby's or Bojangles chances are it isnt amazing chicken no mnatter where you go.

But it seems like we are heading inot regional BBQ dispute territory.

Obviously, you're clearly delusional, since it is a well known fact that Popeyes is far superior to any of these other chains you've mentioned. For proof, I offer this: Boschmangles, Suxby's, and Crap-fil-a were all started outside the state of Louisiana - a state where all Southern food is inherently superior (except BBQ, of which Texas has the superiority). The only good thing to ever come out of another state (food wise) is Paula Deen.

I really feel sad for you that you're stuck with such crap.

Scarab Sages

The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.
You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.

Why?


KaeYoss wrote:
Isn't there a saying "The fanbase divided shall never be united!"?

Especially on the subject of chicken. KFC for life!


Aberzombie wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.
You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.
Why?

Because it is good chicken.... because it s#$$s all over Kentucky Fried Crap.... I have never had Popeyes to compare so until the franchise comes to Australia its O-Porto.


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.
You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.
Why?

Because it is good chicken.... because it s+%*s all over Kentucky Fried Crap.... I have never had Popeyes to compare so until the franchise comes to Australia its O-Porto.

Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.


Jandrem wrote:


Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.

Around the poultry, a perimeter create!


KaeYoss wrote:
Isn't there a saying "The fanbase divided shall never be united!"?

ROTFL!!!


Aberzombie wrote:
Dragonsong wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.

Get out of here with that Popeyes garbage. Unless you are talking about Zaxby's or Bojangles chances are it isnt amazing chicken no mnatter where you go.

But it seems like we are heading inot regional BBQ dispute territory.

Obviously, you're clearly delusional, since it is a well known fact that Popeyes is far superior to any of these other chains you've mentioned. For proof, I offer this: Boschmangles, Suxby's, and Crap-fil-a were all started outside the state of Louisiana - a state where all Southern food is inherently superior (except BBQ, of which Texas has the superiority). The only good thing to ever come out of another state (food wise) is Paula Deen.

I really feel sad for you that you're stuck with such crap.

If you want to really eat, you come to NY. We do everything better. Everything. adjusts crown


Jandrem wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
does not understand why anyone would ever soil themselves with crap-fil-a, when they could have the world's best fast food fried chicken - Popeyes!
Must depend on the individual establishment, because most Popeyes I have eaten at have been mediocre at best, and the Chic-Fil-A's have been amazing. I love their lemonade, too.
What probably happened was: You were captured by a secret government project and subjected to a virtual reality program that fooled you into thinking Crap-fil-a was amazing. That's the only real explanantion.
You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.
Why?

Because it is good chicken.... because it s+%*s all over Kentucky Fried Crap.... I have never had Popeyes to compare so until the franchise comes to Australia its O-Porto.

Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.

A billion times more interesting than the circular RPG edition war that nobody was going to give an inch on...

The same tired arguments by the same people over and over again.... blah blah blah blady blah

- Must defend this
- must defend that
- everything you are saying is so wrong
- I will use big words like straw man and logical fallacy to make me sound good...
- My side is perfect and can do no wrong
- my side are the cool rebel alliance and your like darth stupid
- you spelled your wrong you must be stupid and all your arguments are invalid because of your imperfect use of grammar....
- I am scoring points and winning the intarwebz and proving how cool I am because I nailed some n00b.
- No I am totally 1337 and your Suxxors I totally pwned you n00b
- You spelled your wrong again n00b
- 19th fraken million edition rules
- no 17th million edition does

blah blah blah..... Time that could have been spent constructively sucked away....................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ....

I think I just ranted.... cool I haven't done that in a while....


New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I REALLY don't like how the poll is worded on this one.

I think Basic D&D offered an appropriate level of complexity, perhaps with the exception of the mass combat rules which were too math-intensive to be truly fun to use at the table.

I have only played 1E a handful of times, but didn't find it overly complex.

2E has some problematic mechanics, but luckily a lot of them are optional rules that can be ignored if they present problems at the table. I have to admit, I often long for the simplicity of 2E-style ability/NWP checks - knowing you just need to roll under the given number is an easy mechanic to remember. (EDIT: Though the set phases of combat in Basic/1E/2E is confusing, I think, to people who cut their teeth on 3.X, as is the "every one declares their action at the start of the round" convention that 3.X dumped.)

3.X (and I'm not counting Pathfinder in this) remains, to my mind, the most frustratingly complicated edition of the game, mainly because of skills. Setting ability check and skill check DCs can be tricky, and that's one reason I'm very grateful for the "Page 42 for Pathfinder" charts made available by some diligent fans.

Pathfinder removes the layer of complexity added by 3.X's skill system, but adds another with a much wider array of feats and class abilities. Now, many of those feats are simply new iterations of 3.5 feats that were very popular, so that's okay, but as I've said before, the sheer volume of them makes feat selection a daunting process for newbies.

4E has a different problem. Yes, skills are simplified, and yes, I mostly think that's a good thing. I also like that players get to choose between two ability scores for determining defenses, and I especially like that Dex mods are added to ranged weapon attack AND damage - the discrepancy between Dex and Str mods and their selective intermixing when calculating attack and damage rolls for ranged weapons should have been removed some time ago, because it's just overly simulationist - if Strong Guy does more damage with his sword, Accurate Guy should do more damage with his bow. There's nothing unbalancing about that, and it makes more sense to new players.

But where 4E adds extra complexity is in having players pick both powers and feats, and there are a flaming metric crap-ton of each. As much as I love the bones of 4E, I really dislike the huge frame of powers laid on top of it. The wall of powers is what initially turned me off when reading the 4E PHB - it felt less like reading about things my character could do and more like reading a very in-depth video game instruction manual. For me, that's important, because it's impeding my immersion.

(SIDE NOTE: This has little to do with the contents of this week's column, but I also dislike that the names of many of the 4E powers seem to be dictating flavor to me. Ditto with monsters. Why can't an ankylosaurus be called an ankylosaurus, instead of a horntailed behemoth? Does everything have to sound like it was run through the XTREME DORITOS copy writing algorithm before it went to print?)


Freehold DM wrote:
If you want to really eat, you come to NY. We do everything better. Everything. adjusts crown

NY known for its BBQ, chicken and waffles, tapas, dim sum BWahhahahahahahah sorry I tried to say it with a straight face but I couldn't.

NY has a lot of great restaurants to be sure but its not the zone of innovation(LA, Napa, Vegas) it was, lobster newberg at Delmonico's was over a century ago after all. Or of regional (southern/soul food, creole, low country, cuban)food development. Food styles arent developed there they are imported and (maybe)popularized, but I think LA does more popularization.

Its the true american foodscape though. A large enough diverse population that you can find almost anything but not necessiarily awesome.

OK I will give on Peter Lugers.

@Aberzombie Sadly I have no real fried chicken options but KFC here in Boulder CO. I would opt for Popeyes in a heartbeat at the moment, at least until one of the other 2 opened up that is ;)


Power Word Unzip wrote:

New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I can't read the article now (blocked) but I will this afternoon. Thanks.

Power Word Unzip wrote:


(SIDE NOTE: This has little to do with the contents of this week's column, but I also dislike that the names of many of the 4E powers seem to be dictating flavor to me. Ditto with monsters. Why can't an ankylosaurus be called an ankylosaurus, instead of a horntailed behemoth? Does everything have to sound like it was run through the XTREME DORITOS copy writing algorithm before it went to print?)

Simple answer: "Intellectual Property". You can't own ankylosaurus but you can own "horntailed behemoth". Same with Warforged vs Gnomes. Hasbro likes the IP it's what corporations do.

This is one of the biggest flavor changes 4E made that gets very little discussion: the tilt toward IP and away from public domain.

Shadow Lodge

I stand by Chick-Fil-A. Best damn chicken sandwiches by far. And their lemonade is so good it'll make you slap those stupid kids down the road who sell yellow sugar water from a cardboard stand marked "LIMONAID".


Dragonsong wrote:


But it seems like we are heading inot regional BBQ dispute territory.

So you're saying that you're derailing the thread's derailment?

If you can get DiCaprio here, he'll help you derail the derailment derailing the derailment. Go deeper!


Aberzombie wrote:
The 8th Dwarf wrote:

You need to try O-Porto... Portuguese style chicken.

Why?

He probably has stocks. Maybe one of the shops is his or his family's.

Or it could just be because he thinks the stuff is really good and he wants you to try it to see if you find it good, too.

We'll never know...


Jandrem wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Isn't there a saying "The fanbase divided shall never be united!"?
Especially on the subject of chicken. KFC for life!

Ugh. I'll just assume for your sake that the KFC in the US is a whole lot better than in Germany here.

Because I got there once (I had coupons) and found that burger (I think it was called Zinger, I'm not sure though) totally bland. If I want unspiced chicken, I'll get my grandmother to make me some. She occasionally complaints about the steamed carrots being too spicy. But hers is actually more tasteful.

Those KFC guys managed to reduce the chicken's natural flavour. Amazing.


The 8th Dwarf wrote:


Because it is good chicken....

So we will know after all.


Kthulhu wrote:
I stand by Chick-Fil-A. Best damn chicken sandwiches by far. And their lemonade is so good it'll make you slap those stupid kids down the road who sell yellow sugar water from a cardboard stand marked "LIMONAID".

Blasphemy, sir! Only Zaxby's can satisfy my need for deep-fried flightless bird!

And what's with Domino's Pizza, all going and changing their dough recipe on us? Don't they realize the investment I've made in their old crust? I sure hope someone else, maybe a third-party company who used to make their breadsticks or something, devises a pizza that uses the old crust so I can keep eating what I'm used to. I mean, their marketing campaign is so CONDESCENDING - like, "Hey, our old crust sucked, and if you think it was good, you suck too and don't know what you're missing!" How dare they insult their customer base like that? They totally sold out. Domino's Pizza? More like Domino'$ Pi$$a, hahahaha!

Spoiler:
(Yes, that was tongue in cheek - although actually, I really did like Domino's better before they changed their recipe.)


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Jandrem wrote:

Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.

A billion times more interesting than the circular RPG edition war that nobody was going to give an inch on...

And you think those heathens will concede that their beloved Colonel sells overpriced vomit? So naive...


I don't care for the options for the answers myself. I have played 3 of those systems(2nd ed, 3.x, and 4E), and they are all complex in one manner or another. Where that complexity is just shifted a bit between the various systems. All of them require a bit of experience, reading, and creativity for someone to get full use out of them. This is part of what bothers me with WotC's approach to 4E; they seem to think that by hiding most of the complexity behind the DM screen and the facade of everyone being roughly equal in power, they are removing the complexity, when they are really just shifting where that complexity lies. They also seem to think that complexity is the sole thing people look at; from day one their primary selling point has been "simplicity" as if that in and of itself was a desirable goal for everyone.


Power Word Unzip wrote:

New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I REALLY don't like how the poll is worded on this one.

Probably because it's completely useless. The issue of complexity is too, well, complex to cram into 4 choices. (In other words: The poll is done 4e style: Too dumbed down, not enough choices! ;-P)

This is either "Wasting my time playing with the poll tool", "Not having a clue about polls" or "Making polls that can't help but have the results I want."

Let's make a poll about which it is.


I'm reading the article now. It's telling that he refers to Atari and Xbox360 - both the most inferior consoles of their time.

(Edition War, Fast Food War, Console War - Trifecta!!! ;-))


Dragonsong wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
If you want to really eat, you come to NY. We do everything better. Everything. adjusts crown

NY known for its BBQ, chicken and waffles, tapas, dim sum BWahhahahahahahah sorry I tried to say it with a straight face but I couldn't.

NY has a lot of great restaurants to be sure but its not the zone of innovation(LA, Napa, Vegas) it was, lobster newberg at Delmonico's was over a century ago after all. Or of regional (southern/soul food, creole, low country, cuban)food development. Food styles arent developed there they are imported and (maybe)popularized, but I think LA does more popularization.

Its the true american foodscape though. A large enough diverse population that you can find almost anything but not necessiarily awesome.

OK I will give on Peter Lugers.

@Aberzombie Sadly I have no real fried chicken options but KFC here in Boulder CO. I would opt for Popeyes in a heartbeat at the moment, at least until one of the other 2 opened up that is ;)

I will completely and totally buy that we import. We do not innovate anymore outside of MAYBE chinatown(and that's been at least over 19 years). That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
cibet44 wrote:
Power Word Unzip wrote:

New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I can't read the article now (blocked) but I will this afternoon. Thanks.

Power Word Unzip wrote:


(SIDE NOTE: This has little to do with the contents of this week's column, but I also dislike that the names of many of the 4E powers seem to be dictating flavor to me. Ditto with monsters. Why can't an ankylosaurus be called an ankylosaurus, instead of a horntailed behemoth? Does everything have to sound like it was run through the XTREME DORITOS copy writing algorithm before it went to print?)

Simple answer: "Intellectual Property". You can't own ankylosaurus but you can own "horntailed behemoth". Same with Warforged vs Gnomes. Hasbro likes the IP it's what corporations do.

This is one of the biggest flavor changes 4E made that gets very little discussion: the tilt toward IP and away from public domain.

In WOTC's defense I'm going to say that "Horntailed Behemoth" is also more in character of a name that fantasy characters would use as opposed to some name that sounds like you're on a walking tour of the Natural History Musueum in New York City. I"ve never used dinosaurs in my home campaigns because the names broke immersion.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Power Word Unzip wrote:

New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I REALLY don't like how the poll is worded on this one.

I think Basic D&D offered an appropriate level of complexity, perhaps with the exception of the mass combat rules which were too math-intensive to be truly fun to use at the table.

I too will have to look when I get home, but which version of OD&D did he mean?

Red box basic, where you topped out at thrid level?

Blue Box expert, where you could go to 15th level?

Or are we talking rules encyclopedia, with all the alternate classes, skills, 36 level, racial level caps, weapon mastery charts, etc etc etc?

Power Word Unzip wrote:


(SIDE NOTE: This has little to do with the contents of this week's column, but I also dislike that the names of many of the 4E powers seem to be dictating flavor to me. Ditto with monsters. Why can't an ankylosaurus be called an ankylosaurus, instead of a horntailed behemoth? Does everything have to sound like it was run through the XTREME DORITOS copy writing algorithm before it went to print?)

I recall (memory, no link available) that the idea was to get away from 'real world names' because it was too world jarring to be fighting lions, tigers, and owlbears then suddenly a Velicioraptor.

Manifests summon James Jacobs

Edit: Looks like LazarX sustantiates the WotC claim.
*points to a stegasaurus picture.* "This is a Thagonizer. Named after the late Thag Simmons."
(I love the Far side)


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
Jandrem wrote:

Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.

A billion times more interesting than the circular RPG edition war that nobody was going to give an inch on...

The same tired arguments by the same people over and over again.... blah blah blah blady blah

- Must defend this
- must defend that
- everything you are saying is so wrong
- I will use big words like straw man and logical fallacy to make me sound good...
- My side is perfect and can do no wrong
- my side are the cool rebel alliance and your like darth stupid
- you spelled your wrong you must be stupid and all your arguments are invalid because of your imperfect use of grammar....
- I am scoring points and winning the intarwebz and proving how cool I am because I nailed some n00b.
- No I am totally 1337 and your Suxxors I totally pwned you n00b
- You spelled your wrong again n00b
- 19th fraken million edition rules
- no 17th million edition does

blah blah blah..... Time that could have been spent constructively sucked away...

So, what you're saying is, people should just eat the chicken they like, and not worry what kind of chicken other people eat, as long as they enjoy it?


Matthew Morris wrote:
Power Word Unzip wrote:

New Legends & Lore column for 3/15/2011.

I REALLY don't like how the poll is worded on this one.

I think Basic D&D offered an appropriate level of complexity, perhaps with the exception of the mass combat rules which were too math-intensive to be truly fun to use at the table.

I too will have to look when I get home, but which version of OD&D did he mean?

Red box basic, where you topped out at thrid level?

Blue Box expert, where you could go to 15th level?

Or are we talking rules encyclopedia, with all the alternate classes, skills, 36 level, racial level caps, weapon mastery charts, etc etc etc?

No specification was given, just "Basic D&D". I was assuming the full package of rules in the Rules Cyclopedia, though - and I would append my earlier post to say that fighter combat options and weapon mastery were likewise great ideas with clunky mechanics.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Matthew Morris wrote:


I too will have to look when I get home, but which version of OD&D did he mean?

Red box basic, where you topped out at thrid level?

Blue Box expert, where you could go to 15th level?

Or are we talking rules encyclopedia, with all the alternate classes, skills, 36 level, racial level caps, weapon mastery charts, etc etc etc?

Don't forget the Immortals set which topped you out at 100th level Immortal after resetting you from 36th level arch something to first level peon demigod. :)


Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.

Wrong. I'm from Chicago.


Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.
Wrong. I'm from Chicago.

Please tell you aren't bringing what you laughably call pizza into this fight. I'm from Brooklyn.

Scarab Sages

Freehold DM wrote:
Dragonsong wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
If you want to really eat, you come to NY. We do everything better. Everything. adjusts crown

NY known for its BBQ, chicken and waffles, tapas, dim sum BWahhahahahahahah sorry I tried to say it with a straight face but I couldn't.

NY has a lot of great restaurants to be sure but its not the zone of innovation(LA, Napa, Vegas) it was, lobster newberg at Delmonico's was over a century ago after all. Or of regional (southern/soul food, creole, low country, cuban)food development. Food styles arent developed there they are imported and (maybe)popularized, but I think LA does more popularization.

Its the true american foodscape though. A large enough diverse population that you can find almost anything but not necessiarily awesome.

OK I will give on Peter Lugers.

@Aberzombie Sadly I have no real fried chicken options but KFC here in Boulder CO. I would opt for Popeyes in a heartbeat at the moment, at least until one of the other 2 opened up that is ;)

I will completely and totally buy that we import. We do not innovate anymore outside of MAYBE chinatown(and that's been at least over 19 years). That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.

And Louisiana puts both cities to shame. That's right, not just New Orleans, the whole f&%$ing state* has food that kicks ass!

*

Spoiler:
Except, as noted, the state of Texas, which has superior BBQ.


Freehold DM wrote:
Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.
Wrong. I'm from Chicago.
Please tell you aren't bringing what you laughably call pizza into this fight. I'm from Brooklyn.

Please. Why waste time on your thin crust crap? I'm talking STEAKS. Chicago's steakhouses put yours to shame, no doubt about it.

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Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.
Wrong. I'm from Chicago.
Please tell you aren't bringing what you laughably call pizza into this fight. I'm from Brooklyn.
Please. Why waste time on your thin crust crap? I'm talking STEAKS. Chicago's steakhouses put yours to shame, no doubt about it.

Maybe.. But Iowa has you beat in the Steak department


Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.

http://www.5280.com

Boulder/ Denver metro here

No, you don't.

You beat us in Broadway musicals for sure.

Scarab Sages

Matthew Morris wrote:
Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Talonne Hauk wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.
Wrong. I'm from Chicago.
Please tell you aren't bringing what you laughably call pizza into this fight. I'm from Brooklyn.
Please. Why waste time on your thin crust crap? I'm talking STEAKS. Chicago's steakhouses put yours to shame, no doubt about it.
Maybe.. But Iowa has you beat in the Steak department

I thought Iowa had another market cornered? Ha ha ha ha ha ha....

...get it?


Talonne Hauk wrote:
Please. Why waste time on your thin crust crap? I'm talking STEAKS. Chicago's steakhouses put yours to shame, no doubt about it.

I dunno man Peter Lugers was pretty damned epic the one time I had it. That's a bold claim, I think you need to let me couch surf so I can try out some chicago steak joints on the cheap :)

Scarab Sages

Have we completely derailed this thread yet?

Scarab Sages

I miss boiled crawfish, and king cake, and Bozo's chicken and andouille sausage gumbo, and Barecca's roast duck, and oysters, and alligator jerky, and....

...DAMN IT! NOW I"M HUNGRY AGAIN!!!

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Aberzombie wrote:
Have we completely derailed this thread yet?

Only when the 5 letter S word is invoked. You know.. the little blue goblin word.. =)

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