| Greg Wasson |
Låt den rätte komma in ( Let the right one in) is the original film from the novel of the same. Let Me In is the first Hollywood remake I've ever seen to get it totally right! Be sure to watch the original movie in Swedish and read the subtitles-- the dubbing is off.
Thanks! I hadn't watched the US version because I liked the Swedish so much. I will check out the US version now.
Greg
| d13 |
Let Me In is the first Hollywood remake I've ever seen to get it totally right!
I agree. Both versions are terrific. A brilliant exception to the rule of "crappy remakes for foreign movies".
What I think is even more impressive is that the American remake is much different than the Swedish film. It didn't copy the original and still managed to stay true to all of the same themes.
I guess its a testament to the strength of the book. I didn't read it but my wife says its very good.
Wolfthulhu
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Andrew Turner wrote:Let Me In is the first Hollywood remake I've ever seen to get it totally right!I agree. Both versions are terrific. A brilliant exception to the rule of "crappy remakes for foreign movies".
What I think is even more impressive is that the American remake is much different than the Swedish film. It didn't copy the original and still managed to stay true to all of the same themes.
I guess its a testament to the strength of the book. I didn't read it but my wife says its very good.
Are you kidding? I just watched them back-to-back and it's practically a scene for scene re-shoot of the original. With worse acting and less atmosphere.
You can pull off, "What's a Rubik's Cube?" in a foreign film, but it doesn't really fly in America.
| Dragon78 |
Yeah your right wolfthulhu the sweedish version does have worse acting and less atmosphere plus that seen with cats so lame. The american version is a better film better acting, better music , much darker, no cats,a cop instead of the town drunk, bullies are actually mean. I laughed when i saw the bullies in the sweedish version, i mean they all look like girls, and most of the stuff they did(except the pool scene) was not all that bad. I liked them both but I saw the american version first and that is the way it is with most people what you see fisrt is the one you like best.
Wolfthulhu
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Wolfthulhu wrote:it's practically a scene for scene re-shoot of the original.False.
That's one opinion.
Here are a few more:
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/markkermode/2010/12/my_worst_five_films_of_2010.html]Mark Kermode
called it "the most utterly redundant remake of the year"And [url=http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Let-Me-In-4871.html]Josh Tyler
says:The movie he’s made is absolutely a direct remake of the 2008 film, the two are so similar that it’s almost impossible to differentiate between them.
and
Reeves’ take is masterfully well done, but it’s not because he’s put his own stamp on it. Let Me In is good because Let the Right One In is good, and Reeves simply made the same film, only slightly better. They’re nearly identical, right down to their bones.
Yep. That last one is a positive review. In fact Josh gives the movie a four out of five star review, yet even he says the film isn't anything more than a re-shoot.
Mothman
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Yeah, I can’t comment with authority having not seen the American version, but having read some reviews from critics that I respect I very much had the impression that the American version, whilst good, was extremely similar to the original, enough so that the general advice was ‘if you’ve seen the original, don’t bother with the American remake’.
As it has been given a generally positive review in this thread, I might check the remake out at some point.
Wolfthulhu
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Wolfthulhu wrote:You can pull off, "What's a Rubik's Cube?" in a foreign film, but it doesn't really fly in America.Yeah, because they don't have Rubik's Cubes in Europe ;-P
Smart arse. :P
I just meant it felt 'forced' in the American movie. Maybe the setting, maybe the acting. Either way, the line fell flat.
Dark_Mistress
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Dark_Mistress wrote:I liked the original and had not seen the US version, since most times the US remake versions tend to blow donkey *bleep* and not in a good way. Now I will check it out.That's really all you need to know. This was no exception.
Well it is true, nine times out of ten the remake does. Every blue moon there is a good remake though. But the odds are so stacked against it, I always just see the original. Le Fem Nikita is a good example, loved the original and hated the US remake.
Wolfthulhu
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Wolfthulhu wrote:Well it is true, nine times out of ten the remake does. Every blue moon there is a good remake though. But the odds are so stacked against it, I always just see the original. Le Fem Nikita is a good example, loved the original and hated the US remake.Dark_Mistress wrote:I liked the original and had not seen the US version, since most times the US remake versions tend to blow donkey *bleep* and not in a good way. Now I will check it out.That's really all you need to know. This was no exception.
It does happen, much less often in the 'horror' genre though. American film makers no longer understand the power of subtlety. Everything has to be BIGGER, BLOODIER, GORIER!!! Foreign film makers tend to rely on good story and true suspense more than special and digital FX.
It's been awhile, but I think Pulse was a good example of an Asian film that was much better in the American remake... I think it was Pulse. Anyway, yes. It can happen. Occasionally.
| havoc xiii |
I couldn't stand the original it felt so slow. Though I wasn't a fan of either I couldn't figure out if we were supposed to like the girl, seeing as we discover that this isn't here first time finding a new errand boy. So I couldn't tell if she was sincere or this was just part of getting a new "familiar".
drayen
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The remake's only success was in casting Chloe Moretz. She was better in the role than Lina Leandersson. Otherwise, stick with the original. Better character development. Kåre Hedebrant as Oskar really conveyed the character's sociopathic tendencies. I sat there shaking my head at the things he would do to himself let alone what he does to others. On the other hand, Kodi Smit-McPhee as Owen fell flat. His portrayal just seemed pitiable without any sense of malice.
The let down from Let The Right One In to Let Me In is just a reminder to me of why I am dreading the upcoming remake of the Larsson series.
| John Kretzer |
I couldn't stand the original it felt so slow. Though I wasn't a fan of either I couldn't figure out if we were supposed to like the girl, seeing as we discover that this isn't here first time finding a new errand boy. So I couldn't tell if she was sincere or this was just part of getting a new "familiar".
I liked both versions...they were very similiar...rather that is a good thing or not...meh.
That is why I liked it...she was a evil vampire. The whole movie is a very careful seduction of the young boy to be her servant and a path of corruption. Notice how she stays away from him till she realizes her old servant is getting too old. I thought it was masterfuly well done in both versions.
I have not read the book but now I am interested.
Mothman
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Mothman wrote:Smart arse. :PWolfthulhu wrote:You can pull off, "What's a Rubik's Cube?" in a foreign film, but it doesn't really fly in America.Yeah, because they don't have Rubik's Cubes in Europe ;-P
Guilty.
I just meant it felt 'forced' in the American movie. Maybe the setting, maybe the acting. Either way, the line fell flat.
Fair enough.
| d13 |
a bunch of critics said. . . the film isn't anything more than a re-shoot.
I honestly didn't think this was true. Yes. Its a remake. And Yes. A lot of scenes are very similar.
But I think the American version has enough differences to make it worthwhile viewing, whether you've seen the original or not.
Some differences that instantly spring to mind:
The attempted murder of the boy taking place in the car instead of in the gym locker room.
The lack of that crazy scene with the cats (which I quite liked in the original).
Do the kids go down into the teenager's basement/clubhouse in the original? I can't remember but I don't think so.
*The way they handled the girl's androgynous nature.
*The relationship between the girl and her middle aged protector.
And in response to a later post from Wolfthulhu, most of the time American remakes of horror movies do lack the subtle touches that made the original movie so good. We are not a subtle culture. But I thought that Let Me In actually handled the last two differences I listed better than the Swedish version. I never really got the idea that the girl wasn't a girl in the Swedish version and I thought her relationship with the older man had a little higher stakes in the remake.
Its a remake. But it is handled well and has enough differences to make it well worth viewing.
| Seabyrn |
I finally saw this remake the other night. It was visually quite good, but the movie as a whole was not as good as the original. My biggest complaint with it was that all the adults were reduced to cardboard cutouts, with no real emotional depth to them at all (particularly Virginia).
Other than that it wasn't terribly different than the original, so of course it wasn't bad :)
| Kajehase |
I didn't think the swedish version was too slow, but then again I like my life as a dog, the brothers lionheart and Wallander.
Haven't seen the remake yet.
Which Wallander-version? The Rolf Lassgård version made for Swedish public service-TV and the cinema, or the direct-to-DVD/commercial channel TV 4 version with Kristian Henriksson?
Robert Hawkshaw
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Robert Hawkshaw wrote:Which Wallander-version? The Rolf Lassgård version made for Swedish public service-TV and the cinema, or the direct-to-DVD/commercial channel TV 4 version with Kristian Henriksson?I didn't think the swedish version was too slow, but then again I like my life as a dog, the brothers lionheart and Wallander.
Haven't seen the remake yet.
The BBC version with Kenneth Branagh actually. My swedish was learned in college, so if it is not subtitled I can't really understand it.
| Zombieneighbours |
Yeah your right wolfthulhu the sweedish version does have worse acting and less atmosphere plus that seen with cats so lame. The american version is a better film better acting, better music , much darker, no cats,a cop instead of the town drunk, bullies are actually mean. I laughed when i saw the bullies in the sweedish version, i mean they all look like girls, and most of the stuff they did(except the pool scene) was not all that bad. I liked them both but I saw the american version first and that is the way it is with most people what you see fisrt is the one you like best.
Most bullying is low level and continous.
I went through it for years, and looking back on it, most of the things that happened to me as the result of the spite of others was less serious than many of the things that happen to Oskar, yet the on-going nature of the torment remains i think one of the driving factors behind mental health problems that haunt me to this day.
The guys who bullied me weren't 'jocks' they where fat and dumb and terrible at sports. They weren't in most cases stronger than me, but they where able to find and exploit my insecurities, and had little fear or restrain from using violence or following through with it.
In short, anyone can be a bully. It doesn't matter what they look like, or even how they undertake the campaign of torment.
The sweedish version frames the relationships and power dynamics within relationships between the bully and their targets perfectly. Far more realistic than the 'mean kids' in most american film and TV.
While I have yet to see the American version, you have successfully put me of it.
Changing Lacke from a drunk to a cop seems utterly unneccessary.
Add to that the existance and excilence of 'Let the right one in', I really don't get the need for the existence of 'Let me in'. Just like i really don't get why we would need the millenium trilogy to be made in english.
| Kajehase |
Kajehase wrote:*ponders replying in really thickly written Västgöta-dialect.*I'm most familiar with the Skåne-dialect. Buncha friends from Lund.
That barely qualifies as Swedish, though. It's got diphtongs (or as people from Skåne would put it: diphtouououngs) for Mårten's sake.
| BenS |
Wow, seems like most people liked the remake better than the original. Not me. W/ the exception of the cat-scene (silly) in the Swedish movie, I pretty much preferred everything about that version.
I think if I had never seen the original, I would have liked this one better. It was ok, and the 2 kids were pretty well cast, but I just liked the Swedish one better.
Not sure why the remake was set in the '80s. B/c the kid had a Rubik's Cube?? That can't be enough to justify the whole thing.
I agree on the subtlety comment above. Some of this was spoon-fed, and those American "bullies" were lame.
I too am dreading the remake of the "Girl Who..." trilogy.
| Seabyrn |
The american version was filmed mostly through the perspective of the main character so that is why the adults were just "cardboard cutouts". Since it was filmed that way to make him feel more isolated and focus on the characters that matter.
Maybe that was the intention, but it didn't work as well for me, and lost a lot of good stuff. For example, take Virginia.
In the original, it's clear that she wants to die, and essentially commits suicide in a shocking and visually amazing fashion. The visuals combined with the emotional shock (we've grown to know Virginia before this) is very effective.
In the remake, her death is accidental. It's just as impressive visually, but it completely lacks the emotional punch. We don't really know who she was so her death is like that of a stranger - sad but not intensely so.
What did the remake gain by focusing on the children that makes up for losing a moment like that in the original?
| Dragon78 |
Virginia was a boring character along with most the other townsfolk and I am glad they where not focused on at all. Stuff like that works fine in a book or tv show but in a movie there just isn't enough time to focus on everybody in town even if it is a small town. So it is better to focus on characters that matter like the Kids, the "father", and the cop.