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Tacticslion wrote:
Hey, FaWtL - any of you know of an iDevice RPG that emphasizes character creation and customization (ala D&D, PF, etc., even if not those rules in specific)?
Aranna wrote:
Not sure if I have ever played an RPG on an iDevice. A quick Google search suggests Final Fantasy... but that is just based on ratings not customization.

Thanks! I love me some FF, but yeah, it's not really about character generation*.

Basically, I'd be interested in something akin to a lesser Mass Effect or a Neverwinter Nights or something along those lines (not necessarily those exact games).

I appreciate you guys looking, though!

* FFT aside; and in that case, it's still not about unique character generation, so much as ability customization. There's no story that engages with your "unique" characters, as it's a pretty heavy narrative. Other FFs allow customization in other regards, but the characters are otherwise hardcoded to be who they are.

EDIT: Sigh. At least I'm being transparent in my motives, or something, I guess. * puts clothes back on *


Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.

did you get your money back immediately?


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Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
did you get your money back immediately?

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

On unrelated news, I'm going to start witnessing to the Dell spam-callers. I figure the "just annoy them" thing (while fun and funny) doesn't actually address the underlying problem: they're actually trying to harm other people by taking stuff that doesn't belong to them. If I can convince them to make a life-change, however, I'd be doing good. If I just annoy them until they hang up, then nothing will have changed.


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Yes! Save them Tacticslion!


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What the General says: we'll go camping this summer. Just not this weekend.

What Tiny T-Rex hears the General say: we'll go camping, [scene missing] this summer weekend.


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Nothing better than that old school train-like chugging sound the wheels on a 40s-built streetcar make when it gets up to speed in light traffic on the way to work. Modern light rail vehicles don't make that kind of noise. Specifically designed not to.

Grand Lodge

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Scooby Doo and the Carrion Crown is on the air.


Apparently, I'm getting into masochism with my boredom levels, because I just borrowed Dark Souls from a friend...

A serious f+~! you, you crap eating s~~# monster that came up with the "no pause button" feature. I hope that f#%#er dies choking on his own vomit in a dark alley.

This game is evil and wonderful at the same time.

I think cap is right - the swear filter kind of f%@~ing makes me want to swear more even though I usually don't just to see how the monkey s%~* it's going to g+%#*&n correct me.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Scooby Doo and the Carrion Crown is on the air.

W00t~!

Grand Lodge

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So all that recap didn't get capped because IT didn't turn on sound. :/


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F%$@ing right, it's some crazy ass s!*@. Especially if you throw a f$%%ing smurf into the grinder... er, mix.


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I was hoping for a more exciting smurf...

Grand Lodge

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I now see why they give the Harrow cards in Carrion Crown.


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Managed two more recap posts for my Carrion Crown game. Now I gotta go sleep, got an exam tomorrow.


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Hope the exam goes well! :)


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What happens when you burn books of black magic and forbidden lore... (A new monster)


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I feel like getting back into PbP again lately, but...

1. I'm too depressed to run as a GM. I loved GMing my two sandbox Fallout Savage Worlds PBPs, but I don't have the creativity to react to 4-6 players, let alone the...10 or so I was juggling previously. I just would like to be a player for a while. It's so much easier, and sometimes more fun, and I need the fun to help the whole depression thing.

2. The recruitment process takes forever. Seriously. Like, I wanna play. Not "I wanna wait a month or so to hear back that someone else got chosen besides me for a game that will inevitably tank in about a month after that."


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I could probably add an extra 100 aliases if I did PbP. Interesting...


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I MISSED IT AAAAARRRRGGGHH


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sips from a drink from whatever "It" was

Dude! You should've been there! I totally sent you an update on Facebook. Didn't you get it?


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Grrr.....


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thegreenteagamer wrote:

I feel like getting back into PbP again lately, but...

1. I'm too depressed to run as a GM. I loved GMing my two sandbox Fallout Savage Worlds PBPs, but I don't have the creativity to react to 4-6 players, let alone the...10 or so I was juggling previously. I just would like to be a player for a while. It's so much easier, and sometimes more fun, and I need the fun to help the whole depression thing.

2. The recruitment process takes forever. Seriously. Like, I wanna play. Not "I wanna wait a month or so to hear back that someone else got chosen besides me for a game that will inevitably tank in about a month after that."

I can give you a spot in my game, but we are our own unique set of special snowflakes, so it may not be what you're looking for. :)

I closed recruitment a while ago because constantly bringing in newbies took too much time and attention away from running the game, but I can still bring folks in. I just only do it by recommendation these days. Or if it's someone I know. You (or any other Fawtly) can PM me if it's something you're interested in. And no offense taken if it's not. We know we're oddballs. :P


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Made breakfast for dinner tonight. Discovered that Trader Joes has really good gluten free bagels, which the kidlet is ecstatic about. He's really missed bagels. Win! :)


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Now if I could just convince my immune system to stop overreacting every time I go outside...
Went for a long walk today because the weather was beautiful, but the blooming lilacs sent my allergies into overdrive. So. Much. Sneezing. >.<


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Limeylongears wrote:
Hope the exam goes well! :)

+1


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Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
did you get your money back immediately?

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

The one time our card number got stolen without our knowledge, it did indeed turn out that it was a waitperson at one of the restaurants we frequented. Disappointing.


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Limeylongears wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Limeylongears wrote:

Note to self:

Stop buying pants.

FTFY.
In order to do that, I'd have to start buying pants.

So long as it isn't red trousers ;)


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lynora wrote:

I can give you a spot in my game, but we are our own unique set of special snowflakes, so it may not be what you're looking for. :)

...And no offense taken if it's not. We know we're oddballs. :P

That is certainly unique!

I think that's just quite a bit more of a learning curve and system shock than I can do in my current state. Like GMing, it seems like if I was able to dedicate enough time between posts to shifting my paradigm I could get into it, but in the meantime I'll say thank you and decline.


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That does sound fun. :-)

I have a no PbP policy, but if I ever relax it, it would be for something off the wall. :-)

Silver Crusade

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NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
did you get your money back immediately?

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

The one time our card number got stolen without our knowledge, it did indeed turn out that it was a waitperson at one of the restaurants we frequented. Disappointing.

A few years ago, a friend and I both had our cards compromised around the same time (different banks). We decided it couldn't be a coincidence so compared our transaction histories. About two weeks prior we had gone out to lunch and paid separate checks using the cards in question. We gave that info to the banks, but have no idea if they were able to do anything with that.


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Someone tried using the General's card at a bunch of convenience stores in different places in Nebraska.

We like to think whoever it was, was on an epic Thelma and Louise style cross country crime spree. We were still happy the bank made sure it wasn't with our card. :-)


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Oi, Same thing happened to me a couple of years back.

It was so bad that everyone who went to this one chain restaurant Had their card info stolen. AND turned into fake cards that others were using.

Caught MY fake card because whoever handles my Credit Unions card management systems caught it being used in NYC, (I had only been there once, and it was 8 years prior). So they froze it until they contacted me.

They had tried to make a $2000 jewelry purchase on my card. But it was a BANK card, not a credit card. (And I never have $2000 in my account) ;P

By the time the bank and I contacted each other that day, they had already tried to purchase another insane amount of jewelry online as well.

Yet another time I had to cancel my card and get a new one. ;P (Wasn't the first time that happened)
It was SO bad that my credit union just cancelled and reissued the cards of anyone who had ever used their card at the restaurant. And they set it so that any card of theirs used at that place automatically declines.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
did you get your money back immediately?

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

The one time our card number got stolen without our knowledge, it did indeed turn out that it was a waitperson at one of the restaurants we frequented. Disappointing.

A few years ago, a friend and I both had our cards compromised around the same time (different banks). We decided it couldn't be a coincidence so compared our transaction histories. About two weeks prior we had gone out to lunch and paid separate checks using the cards in question. We gave that info to the banks, but have no idea if they were able to do anything with that.

Well, apparently this person was EXTREMELY careless. We filed the police report and within two days they'd made an arrest, and told us that the woman in question had skimmed over 20 cards over just a couple of weeks, used all of them, and it was child's play to track her down through just that -- comparing different cards from different banks and finding the common transactions.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
lynora wrote:

I can give you a spot in my game, but we are our own unique set of special snowflakes, so it may not be what you're looking for. :)

...And no offense taken if it's not. We know we're oddballs. :P

That is certainly unique!

I think that's just quite a bit more of a learning curve and system shock than I can do in my current state. Like GMing, it seems like if I was able to dedicate enough time between posts to shifting my paradigm I could get into it, but in the meantime I'll say thank you and decline.

No worries. I know it isn't for everyone. But I would have felt bad not at least making the offer knowing you were looking for a game. Best of luck finding something that's more your speed right now in a minimal amount of time. :)


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captain yesterday wrote:

That does sound fun. :-)

I have a no PbP policy, but if I ever relax it, it would be for something off the wall. :-)

Well, you have a standing invitation should you ever change your policy. :)


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Guilty as charged


NobodysHome wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
did you get your money back immediately?

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

The one time our card number got stolen without our knowledge, it did indeed turn out that it was a waitperson at one of the restaurants we frequented. Disappointing.

A few years ago, a friend and I both had our cards compromised around the same time (different banks). We decided it couldn't be a coincidence so compared our transaction histories. About two weeks prior we had gone out to lunch and paid separate checks using the cards in question. We gave that info to the banks, but have no idea if they were able to do anything with that.
Well, apparently this person was EXTREMELY careless. We filed the police report and within two days they'd made an arrest, and told us that the woman in question had skimmed over 20 cards over just a couple of weeks, used all of them, and it was child's play to track her down through just that -- comparing different cards from different banks and finding the common transactions.

O.o

I'm not sure if I'm more appalled by her actions or her stupidity....


thegreenteagamer wrote:

I feel like getting back into PbP again lately, but...

1. I'm too depressed to run as a GM. I loved GMing my two sandbox Fallout Savage Worlds PBPs, but I don't have the creativity to react to 4-6 players, let alone the...10 or so I was juggling previously. I just would like to be a player for a while. It's so much easier, and sometimes more fun, and I need the fun to help the whole depression thing.

2. The recruitment process takes forever. Seriously. Like, I wanna play. Not "I wanna wait a month or so to hear back that someone else got chosen besides me for a game that will inevitably tank in about a month after that."

lynora wrote:

I can give you a spot in my game, but we are our own unique set of special snowflakes, so it may not be what you're looking for. :)

I closed recruitment a while ago because constantly bringing in newbies took too much time and attention away from running the game, but I can still bring folks in. I just only do it by recommendation these days. Or if it's someone I know. You (or any other Fawtly) can PM me if it's something you're interested in. And no offense taken if it's not. We know we're oddballs. :P

That sounds like a great game! And I have the perfect character (so there, NH! >:I) who would fit in quite well as a teacher...

Tacticslion wrote:
Hmp. Some jerk stole my card number, and has been using it to make all sorts of terrible and frivolous purchases. Daggum thieves. They suck. Fortunately, all of those purchases were canceled. I feel your pain much after-the-fact, Freehold.
Freehold DM wrote:
did you get your money back immediately?
Tacticslion wrote:

Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need to cast a suspicious eye at one of our favorite local resteraunts, considering that's the only recent place I let my card go out of sight. It's a shame.

NobodysHome wrote:

The one time our card number got stolen without our knowledge, it did indeed turn out that it was a waitperson at one of the restaurants we frequented. Disappointing.

Celestial Healer wrote:
A few years ago, a friend and I both had our cards compromised around the same time (different banks). We decided it couldn't be a coincidence so compared our transaction histories. About two weeks prior we had gone out to lunch and paid separate checks using the cards in question. We gave that info to the banks, but have no idea if they were able to do anything with that.
NobodysHome wrote:
Well, apparently this person was EXTREMELY careless. We filed the police report and within two days they'd made an arrest, and told us that the woman in question had skimmed over 20 cards over just a couple of weeks, used all of them, and it was child's play to track her down through just that -- comparing different cards from different banks and finding the common transactions.

I'm actually considering going to the restaurant and talking to the managers and a few of the servers. Not in a, "I want to get something." way, but to simply inform them, that I'm a person.

Me not-likely-speech:
"Hey, look, I'm a person. Someone here hurt me and my family. Next time you're tempted to rob from someone, I want you to know who it is you're stealing from: this four-year-old, and this one-year-old, and me, and my wife who is a teacher. Whatever money you made by selling our card information is peanuts compared to how much you might yet have hurt us by giving it to people who don't respect others. It may well be that whoever did this doesn't care, or has internally justified it, or told themselves that no one would really be hurt, or something else - that's often how it goes with humans.

But I just wanted everyone to know exactly what the toll was. Real people got hurt. Our trust has been hurt.

This place was once a place of joy - a way to feel happy and comfortable and glad after a hard week or hard day with people and atmosphere we liked. Now it's uncomfortable and foreboding - our trust of this place has been harmed. Not because everyone here is responsible, but because someone here very likely is, and that's something that hurts us and inhibits our desire to be here. What's more, it makes us more likely to tell others about what happened here, and that makes them uncomfortable.

It's possible that this place will see exactly zero change in business and your finances may well avoid any negative reaction. For the sake of those who are innocent, I kind of hope this is correct. But what this will do, is make people less comfortable, less happy, and more wary of this place and these people. And it has cost my family severe inconvenience and quite possibly real money - money that we cannot afford.

I am sorry that I have lost faith and trust in this establishment. I am sorry that someone felt the need to resort to thievery for whatever reason - perhaps a bad financial state, perhaps some external pressure, perhaps some resentment of some kind or another, perhaps just a desire to afford something nice, or perhaps something else. I don't know why. I'm just sorry that they felt the need to do that.

We may well continue to eat here, normally, but I wanted people here to know.

I'm not asking for anything. I don't want a free meal. I don't want my charges here dropped. I don't want anyone fired. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm simply informing, so you know."

Incidentally, my card has been used in: CA, TX, NY, FL, and ?? (seriously, I don't know where one of the transactions even is) simultaneously - nearly every corner of the U.S., simultaneously. Apparently, I went on an extremely impressive whirlwind tour.

Unfortunately, one of the large number of transactions is technically within hypothetical driving distance of my home (albeit an extremely unusual location and unusual purchase for me, i.e. "not the kind of purchase I've ever made, in a place I've ever made one, to the best of my knowledge") so that one might actually have some sort of traction or something?

On that note...

Tacticslion wrote:
Never actually lost money, from what I could tell. My bank stopped it pretty much immediately. My bank texted us, and, as I do not respond to unsolicited texts, I called them via the number on the back of my physical card. At that point, I was able to talk to a person and they had frozen all of the purchases, until I could verify them. I rejected all Except for the two that I had actually made that day. Go, Bank of America!

... so things might not have been as clean as they appeared? I'm unsure.

On Saturday, after we had called, I was under the impression that none of the charges had occurred (they hadn't) and I denied all charges, except those for a fast-food place and a local drug store (the two places I'd gone).

Today I went in for my temporary card, and the lady was very understanding, but very confusing in her terminology. But from what I was able to gather, it seems that nothing went through... because it was the weekend and the bank was closed, so everything was "Pending" or something? I'm... not sure. It's weird.

I'm guessing that it was a combination of the Bank and the weekend, but the lady at the actual bank place was confusing and terminology-laden. Either way, I'm going to have to keep an eye on my transactions and what's gone through or not.


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TL, you're right, that character would fit in perfectly. :)
You're in if you want. PM me to work out the details.


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And I'm sorry that the whole credit card thing has dragged out and is being such a pain in the butt to resolve. :(


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TL, you're going to have to watch EVERYTHING. Banks get stupid on the weekend.


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This is known.


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That's why I switched to a credit union. :-)


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Sometimes it's nice to have your world view confirmed, but frustrating that you cannot convince others of its validity.

I try very hard to convince people that the quality of the ingredients determines the quality of the final dish. My favorite example of this is my oft-quoted oatmeal cookies story, which I think I've posted here more than once:
"Your oatmeal cookies are fantastic! Can I have the recipe?"
"It's the one on the Quaker Oatmeal box."
"Oh, I've tried that one, and the cookies come out terrible."
"Did you use good ingredients?"
"Why should I waste money on brand name ingredients? Butter is butter. Cinnamon is cinnamon. They're all the same."
*SIGH*

(Most) High-end restaurants cost more and taste better because they're spending a mint on top-level ingredients. Yeah, the staff and kitchen get paid significantly more, and there's the "chi chi" factor, but a lot of the price of the dish really is the price of the ingredients.

So anyway, a long prelude to yesterday's fiasco. I make good garlic bread. As in, "So good that I've started having to make two full loaves for four people because they rip through it so fast."

And it's not like I spend a mint: Local bakery (Acme) sourdough or sour batard, Berkeley Farms butter, the abysmal McCormick garlic powder (never buy McCormick for anything that can't sit on a shelf for 10 years, because that's how long it tastes like their stuff has been there), and plain old Kraft grated parmesan. We're not talking artisan bread here.

Anyway, yesterday was our Sunday game at another player's house, and I have tried many times to convince him to stop buying Safeway brand anything, but to no avail. And admittedly, the Fremont Safeway has some decent desserts in its bakery, and its meat department is surprisingly good. But he was doing kebabs for everyone, and figured I could slap together some garlic bread for the masses. Safeway brand bread (better suited to being a flotation device than being considered "food"), Challenge butter ("flavor? It's not in there!"), Safeway garlic powder (appallingly, even worse than McCormick's, which I always thought provided the worst spices in the world. Now I know better), and Safeway grated parmesan ("Want sawdust? We got it!").
Needless to say, the bread was inedible. Everyone had one piece and left the rest of the loaf to rot in the kitchen.

Same cook. No issues with the cook time, but even with half a stick of butter on each side, there was no discernible butter taste, the garlic powder remained grainy and unpleasant even after being mixed with butter and cooked for 10 minutes, and the parmesan added nothing but more grittiness.

I was embarrassed to have cooked such an atrocity, but it did reaffirm my opinion that if you want decent food, you need to buy decent ingredients. And they don't have to be expensive. Just decent.


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Maybe your timing was off, because you failed your perception check to see the sun. :-)


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NobodysHome wrote:

Sometimes it's nice to have your world view confirmed, but frustrating that you cannot convince others of its validity.

I try very hard to convince people that the quality of the ingredients determines the quality of the final dish. My favorite example of this is my oft-quoted oatmeal cookies story, which I think I've posted here more than once:
"Your oatmeal cookies are fantastic! Can I have the recipe?"
"It's the one on the Quaker Oatmeal box."
"Oh, I've tried that one, and the cookies come out terrible."
"Did you use good ingredients?"
"Why should I waste money on brand name ingredients? Butter is butter. Cinnamon is cinnamon. They're all the same."
*SIGH*

(Most) High-end restaurants cost more and taste better because they're spending a mint on top-level ingredients. Yeah, the staff and kitchen get paid significantly more, and there's the "chi chi" factor, but a lot of the price of the dish really is the price of the ingredients.

So anyway, a long prelude to yesterday's fiasco. I make good garlic bread. As in, "So good that I've started having to make two full loaves for four people because they rip through it so fast."

And it's not like I spend a mint: Local bakery (Acme) sourdough or sour batard, Berkeley Farms butter, the abysmal McCormick garlic powder (never buy McCormick for anything that can't sit on a shelf for 10 years, because that's how long it tastes like their stuff has been there), and plain old Kraft grated parmesan. We're not talking artisan bread here.

Anyway, yesterday was our Sunday game at another player's house, and I have tried many times to convince him to stop buying Safeway brand anything, but to no avail. And admittedly, the Fremont Safeway has some decent desserts in its bakery, and its meat department is surprisingly good. But he was doing kebabs for everyone, and figured I could slap together some garlic bread for the masses. Safeway brand bread (better suited to being a flotation device than being considered "food"), Challenge butter ("flavor? It's...

the desire and ability to pay for quality ingredients for a meal is largely related to issues of culture, location, and economics.

Interestingly enough, my wife and I were talking about this recently with respect to food deserts and such.


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Sometimes, it's just because they're cheap though. My wife's family, while not loaded has enough money they don't NEED to shop at Aldi's, and get the generic versions, but they do it anyway.


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Yes ingredients are HUGE in any dish... but... I can't stand the nearly bottom quality cheese Kraft makes. The stuff tastes like plastic. I have been restricting myself to Cracker Barrel cheese for now. If you find a good seasoning brand let me know and I will try it since I haven't found a brand that's suitably tasty yet. Oh and beware of buying Parmesan Cheese in the US, many suppliers recently got in trouble for using anything else BUT Parmesan Cheese, one brand I don't recall which was largely just sawdust.


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I just buy my own and grate it myself.

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