
NobodysHome |
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Yep. This describes the problem with communication entirely:
GothBard: (To NobodysHome) Here's my Christmas list!
NobodysHome: (To the Impii and my mother): Here's GothBard's Christmas list! Let's work together so we don't duplicate anything.
My Mother: (Replies All and then MANUALLY ADDS GOTHBARD TO THE LIST): I'm going to get this for GothBard. Which version does she prefer?
Impus Major: (Replies All to my mother's email): I'm going to get Mom this!
So yes. GothBard very carefully sent ME the list so I could send it out without her having to listen to what everyone was getting her (she loves surprises). I dutifully sent it to THREE PEOPLE.
And they managed to first add her to the mailing list and then start Replying All with what they were getting her.
That's email in a nutshell for you.
EDIT: Speaking of nutshells...

Tequila Sunrise |
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After failing to get a second interview four times, I dropped $222 on a month of AutoCAD. I spent a week on basic tutorials, now I'm digging into AutoCAD Electrical ones.
It's an amazing program, I can see why it's so popular in engineering and architectural industries. Hopefully it's a good boost to my resume.

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Limeylongears wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Tell me, which one of your lads is a chunky fellow with a high & tight (sort of) who makes 'woowoowoo' sounds,Ah, young men!
Impus Major: Boop! Got your nose!
Impus Minor: Aack! (Blocks Impus Major's arm and punches him in the face)And now the kids are learning to clean up blood and stop a bloody nose, and why trying to do both at the same time is futility.
Eediots.
Impus Minor.
Limeylongears wrote:and which one is small and salty with a shiny black bowl cut?Impus Major.
Wow. Small and Salty is Impus Major to a tee.

Vanykrye |
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NobodysHome wrote:Wow. Small and Salty is Impus Major to a tee.Limeylongears wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Tell me, which one of your lads is a chunky fellow with a high & tight (sort of) who makes 'woowoowoo' sounds,Ah, young men!
Impus Major: Boop! Got your nose!
Impus Minor: Aack! (Blocks Impus Major's arm and punches him in the face)And now the kids are learning to clean up blood and stop a bloody nose, and why trying to do both at the same time is futility.
Eediots.
Impus Minor.
Limeylongears wrote:and which one is small and salty with a shiny black bowl cut?Impus Major.
He's a Rold Gold mini-pretzel?

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lisamarlene wrote:He's a Rold Gold mini-pretzel?NobodysHome wrote:Wow. Small and Salty is Impus Major to a tee.Limeylongears wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Tell me, which one of your lads is a chunky fellow with a high & tight (sort of) who makes 'woowoowoo' sounds,Ah, young men!
Impus Major: Boop! Got your nose!
Impus Minor: Aack! (Blocks Impus Major's arm and punches him in the face)And now the kids are learning to clean up blood and stop a bloody nose, and why trying to do both at the same time is futility.
Eediots.
Impus Minor.
Limeylongears wrote:and which one is small and salty with a shiny black bowl cut?Impus Major.
Or a really sweaty halfling?

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Drejk wrote:Vanykrye wrote:So yes, she's actively lying to me, not doing what she claims she's doing, and I had to spend close to an hour of real time spread over two days conversing with her, remoting in, and ultimately doing it for her when she admitted she knew what to do about it from the very beginning. I didn't use any of my admin accesses or any additional specialized knowledge.Could it be that she is not actively lying to you but is simply an <redacted> who doesn't know the difference between rebooting, going to sleep, or turning the screen on and off?
The issue might be that pushing power button on modern windows might depending upon settings simply put the computer to sleep instead of going through full reboot like a hard reset...
Note, I thinking this because I can't really comprehend why anyone would lie about rebooting computer in the first place... That would be so pointless that I am willing to suspect ignorance rather than actual malice.
Oh, no. No, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no...
What I've learned is that the vast majority of users prefers to have all of their applications open all the time so they don't have to find them, then have one or two dozen browser tabs open for all of their common tasks.
So rebooting is a HUGE pain for them, because they have to figure out what was open, re-do the browser tabs, etc.
Thus, instead of rebooting they lie to you about it. It's pretty much standard practice. I'd guess that under 25% of the users you ask to reboot actually do so. It's an attitude of, "That would be a big pain and I'm sure it wouldn't help," rather than ignorance.
I'd guess it's every IT department's #1 pet peeve.
o.o
I might be too simple person - I can't really comprehend the idea of lying about an easily verifiable fact... With nothing much to gain anyway - if the issue persist and the support will be taking care of it, the computer's gona get restarted whetever I like it or not.
Of course I am using computers for 30+ years now, and restarting to see if the issue got better is basiacally the first thing to do...
Does that makes me weird?

Drejk |
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Yep. This describes the problem with communication entirely:
GothBard: (To NobodysHome) Here's my Christmas list!
NobodysHome: (To the Impii and my mother): Here's GothBard's Christmas list! Let's work together so we don't duplicate anything.
My Mother: (Replies All and then MANUALLY ADDS GOTHBARD TO THE LIST): I'm going to get this for GothBard. Which version does she prefer?
Impus Major: (Replies All to my mother's email): I'm going to get Mom this!So yes. GothBard very carefully sent ME the list so I could send it out without her having to listen to what everyone was getting her (she loves surprises). I dutifully sent it to THREE PEOPLE.
And they managed to first add her to the mailing list and then start Replying All with what they were getting her.
That's email in a nutshell for you.
EDIT: Speaking of nutshells...
I see you already created a character for Cyberpunk 2077...

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Drejk wrote:Vanykrye wrote:So yes, she's actively lying to me, not doing what she claims she's doing, and I had to spend close to an hour of real time spread over two days conversing with her, remoting in, and ultimately doing it for her when she admitted she knew what to do about it from the very beginning. I didn't use any of my admin accesses or any additional specialized knowledge.Could it be that she is not actively lying to you but is simply an <redacted> who doesn't know the difference between rebooting, going to sleep, or turning the screen on and off?
The issue might be that pushing power button on modern windows might depending upon settings simply put the computer to sleep instead of going through full reboot like a hard reset...
Note, I thinking this because I can't really comprehend why anyone would lie about rebooting computer in the first place... That would be so pointless that I am willing to suspect ignorance rather than actual malice.
Oh, no. No, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no...
What I've learned is that the vast majority of users prefers to have all of their applications open all the time so they don't have to find them, then have one or two dozen browser tabs open for all of their common tasks.
So rebooting is a HUGE pain for them, because they have to figure out what was open, re-do the browser tabs, etc.
Thus, instead of rebooting they lie to you about it. It's pretty much standard practice. I'd guess that under 25% of the users you ask to reboot actually do so. It's an attitude of, "That would be a big pain and I'm sure it wouldn't help," rather than ignorance.
I'd guess it's every IT department's #1 pet peeve.
This is the sad truth.

NobodysHome |
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I've heard it's really bad.
Meh.
Borderlands 2 was by far and away the best of the lot, and its DLC makes it even better. (OMG the entire "Tina runs D&D for the team" is just priceless and worth buying the game JUST to get that DLC.)Borderlands 1 is excellent.
Borderlands 3 suffers from, "This is more of the same and we really couldn't think of much to do." It's boring, but the antagonists are annoying and there are a lot of, "This happens in spite of the fact that you're standing right there because the plot demands it."
The game is playable, the plot is pretty weak.
We've tried and failed to play the Prequel twice now. It's just unworkable for us.
So it's not horrible, but it's not great.

NobodysHome |
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In spite of a vast swath of evidence that animals are acutely aware of subtle changes to the environment around them, we continue to pretend that humans are immune to such influences.
Yet this morning with a low pressure front moving in, both GothBard and Impus Major were up at 5:15 am with insomnia.
It's always interesting to me how many subtle things our bodies seem to be able to sense.

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In spite of a vast swath of evidence that animals are acutely aware of subtle changes to the environment around them, we continue to pretend that humans are immune to such influences.
Yet this morning with a low pressure front moving in, both GothBard and Impus Major were up at 5:15 am with insomnia.
It's always interesting to me how many subtle things our bodies seem to be able to sense.
wife regularly reacts to storms via massive headaches and migraines. Better than any weather report.

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In spite of a vast swath of evidence that animals are acutely aware of subtle changes to the environment around them, we continue to pretend that humans are immune to such influences.
Yet this morning with a low pressure front moving in, both GothBard and Impus Major were up at 5:15 am with insomnia.
It's always interesting to me how many subtle things our bodies seem to be able to sense.
I have suffered a lingering headache/backache since the wee hours of night.

NobodysHome |
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There's no major shift in the weather by me, and all of us were up at 4:30 am this morning. If it's not the weather, an impending earthquake or other environmental effect, what subtle change could've done that?
I'm blaming the leprechaun.
Typically it's one person getting up, then the others in the household sensing it and getting up as well.
I am amused that I have been declared the "ninja" of the high school field trips. GothBard is an amazingly light sleeper, so I've spent 29 years learning to get up and move about very, very quietly.
It apparently disturbs my fellow chaperones because they wake up and "NobodysHome is just gone!"

Drejk |

Mark Hoover 330 wrote:There's no major shift in the weather by me, and all of us were up at 4:30 am this morning. If it's not the weather, an impending earthquake or other environmental effect, what subtle change could've done that?
I'm blaming the leprechaun.
Typically it's one person getting up, then the others in the household sensing it and getting up as well.
I am amused that I have been declared the "ninja" of the high school field trips. GothBard is an amazingly light sleeper, so I've spent 29 years learning to get up and move about very, very quietly.
It apparently disturbs my fellow chaperones because they wake up and "NobodysHome is just gone!"
*Drejk stomps clumsily doing the greater amount of noise, the sneakier he tries to be*

NobodysHome |
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Impus Major: (Looking at the Fluffernutter) You little bastard!
GothBard: What did she do?
IM: She came into WhimseyShire, meowed at me about 12 times, then jumped up on the bed, threw up, and then left.
GothBard: She's done that to me before.
IM: At least your room is on the way to somewhere else! For me, she had to consciously decide to take a turn, go into a dark passage, and go down some stairs into the inky darkness just so she could throw up on my bed...
GB: Sounds about right.

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Impus Major: (Looking at the Fluffernutter) You little bastard!
GothBard: What did she do?
IM: She came into WhimseyShire, meowed at me about 12 times, then jumped up on the bed, threw up, and then left.
GothBard: She's done that to me before.
IM: At least your room is on the way to somewhere else! For me, she had to consciously decide to take a turn, go into a dark passage, and go down some stairs into the inky darkness just so she could throw up on my bed...
GB: Sounds about right.
I'm not going to stop laughing at that one all day.

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Scotland names its snowplows
and then maps them in real time so you can see where "Ready, Spready, Go" and "Spready Mercury" and "For Your Ice Only" will be cleaning up the roads in the next few hours.

Feline Conspiracy Field Agent |
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Aaaand... so much for my afternoon!
Someone sent out a picture of their new baby to the entire 1,200-person division using the To: line instead of the BCC: line.
I'm guessing that I'll have to go into WhimseyShire and vomit on Impus Major's bed by "too cute" #200 or 300.
Too cute!

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To all my IT professional friends here in this thread, can someone help me understand people's obsession with hitting the "reply all" on mass, company-wide emails? Especially when, if you read said email, it is clear that the sales rep that sent it intended for it to go to the cross-reference dept general inbox and instead loaded the entire global distribution by mistake?
I saw about 35 or so responses hit my inbox before people FINALLY started getting the message that this was a mistake and they should stop responding. The first couple were funny, then it was annoying. There was one though, this guy's my hero:
"I just wanted to reply to feel like I was part of something magical!"

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To all my IT professional friends here in this thread, can someone help me understand people's obsession with hitting the "reply all" on mass, company-wide emails? Especially when, if you read said email, it is clear that the sales rep that sent it intended for it to go to the cross-reference dept general inbox and instead loaded the entire global distribution by mistake?
I saw about 35 or so responses hit my inbox before people FINALLY started getting the message that this was a mistake and they should stop responding. The first couple were funny, then it was annoying. There was one though, this guy's my hero:
"I just wanted to reply to feel like I was part of something magical!"
It's a symptom of FOMO.

Drejk |
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Aaaand... so much for my afternoon!
Someone sent out a picture of their new baby to the entire 1,200-person division using the To: line instead of the BCC: line.
I'm guessing that I'll have to go into WhimseyShire and vomit on Impus Major's bed by "too cute" #200 or 300.
Remember to meow 12 times while looking directly at him, or it doesn't count.

Drejk |

To all my IT professional friends here in this thread, can someone help me understand people's obsession with hitting the "reply all" on mass, company-wide emails? Especially when, if you read said email, it is clear that the sales rep that sent it intended for it to go to the cross-reference dept general inbox and instead loaded the entire global distribution by mistake?
I saw about 35 or so responses hit my inbox before people FINALLY started getting the message that this was a mistake and they should stop responding. The first couple were funny, then it was annoying. There was one though, this guy's my hero:
"I just wanted to reply to feel like I was part of something magical!"
Curses are some of the oldest form of magic. Just saying.

NobodysHome |

To all my IT professional friends here in this thread, can someone help me understand people's obsession with hitting the "reply all" on mass, company-wide emails? Especially when, if you read said email, it is clear that the sales rep that sent it intended for it to go to the cross-reference dept general inbox and instead loaded the entire global distribution by mistake?
I saw about 35 or so responses hit my inbox before people FINALLY started getting the message that this was a mistake and they should stop responding. The first couple were funny, then it was annoying. There was one though, this guy's my hero:
"I just wanted to reply to feel like I was part of something magical!"
The best is when people Reply All with "unsubscribe".
Or, in today's case, when someone Reply All'ed their congratulations... and spelled the baby's name wrong!

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Total change of topic: Cheating
Impus Minor's math teacher just called in a group of students for cheating on their last test. He was wondering why he hadn't been called in, since on several problems he just wrote the answer and nothing else.
"Oh, if you just write the correct answer and nothing else, then I know you're not cheating because anyone who was helping you would know that I'd expect to see some work."
"So, how do you know when someone is cheating?"And it's funny, because it's really, really hard to put into words. There's a stylistic difference between a learner and an expert that is very obvious to those experienced in the field, so you'll see the way a problem was done, recognize an expert touch, and flag the exam for further review. Then you'll compare it to their previous tests, their handwriting, their recent homework, and so forth.
And somehow, through all that, you just know. I was trying to explain it to myself and I can't. And it's not foolproof. I was going through my old records and there was an incident I'd forgotten where a young man was taking all the exams for his girlfriend. I never would have caught him except someone ratted him out with an anonymous note.
But typically I just saw something "off" about the way an exam was written, I compared it to the student's previous work, and if they were different enough I turned it over.
The good news is that I never had any false positives (accusing students who were innocent). But I have no idea how many students managed to get away with it.
But one of my fellow students in grad school put it well: "If they can cheat so well at the university level that you can't catch them, then they're likely going to be able to cheat that well at their jobs and get away with it, so they'll be fine with the grade they didn't earn."
Cynical, but eerily accurate.
I know I’m late to this party, but I was hilariously accused of cheating once in high school.
I’m pretty sure my Earth Science teacher genuinely did not like me. I was kind of a smug bastard in HS, who got straight A’s and cultivated a reputation for getting those A’s with no effort (which was not always actually the case, but I do have an eidetic memory which helps me excel at test-taking with minimal study).
Anyway, I got a 100 on one of her tests, and she kept me after class and told me I must have cheated. She made me come back after school to take a new test on the same content, one on one with her. My parents were the opposite of helicopter parents, so I didn’t even tell them this was occurring. I just went after school, sat in her class, and got a 100 on the new test.
I will never forget the gobsmacked look on her face, and I bet my shit-eating grin probably made her question her career choices.

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NobodysHome |

I know I’m late to this party, but I was hilariously accused of cheating once in high school.
I’m pretty sure my Earth Science teacher genuinely did not like me. I was kind of a smug bastard in HS, who got straight A’s and cultivated a reputation for getting those A’s with no effort (which was not always actually the case, but I do have an eidetic memory which helps me excel at test-taking with minimal study).
Anyway, I got a 100 on one of her tests, and she kept me after class and told me I must have cheated. She made me come back after school to take a new test on the same content, one on one with her. My parents were the opposite of helicopter parents, so I didn’t even tell them this was occurring. I just went after school, sat in her class, and got a 100 on the new test.
I will never forget the gobsmacked look on her face, and I bet my s@+%-eating grin probably made her question her career choices.
Favorite smug story (spoilered for self-aggrandizement):
My thesis advisor got tired of hearing me bad-mouth the Statistics department, and ordered me to take a graduate-level statistics class. So I signed up for one. And broke the curve. (I think the top 5 scores in the 22-person class were 97-96-67-65-62.) And yes, I was the 97. If memory serves, the 96 was from the Applied Mathematics department, or at least from outside of the stat department.
My thesis advisor never bothered me about making fun of the stat department again.

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NobodysHome wrote:Yep. This describes the problem with communication entirely:
GothBard: (To NobodysHome) Here's my Christmas list!
NobodysHome: (To the Impii and my mother): Here's GothBard's Christmas list! Let's work together so we don't duplicate anything.
My Mother: (Replies All and then MANUALLY ADDS GOTHBARD TO THE LIST): I'm going to get this for GothBard. Which version does she prefer?
Impus Major: (Replies All to my mother's email): I'm going to get Mom this!So yes. GothBard very carefully sent ME the list so I could send it out without her having to listen to what everyone was getting her (she loves surprises). I dutifully sent it to THREE PEOPLE.
And they managed to first add her to the mailing list and then start Replying All with what they were getting her.
That's email in a nutshell for you.
EDIT: Speaking of nutshells...
I see you already created a character for Cyberpunk 2077...
** spoiler omitted **
So far I’ve only had one dick-slip.