
Vanykrye |
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In singing...if you are singing the way vocal teachers generally instruct people to sing...the letter r is supposed to be implied more than actively pronounced.
Kevin Cronin from REO Speedwagon has been annoying me with the way he sings *any* word that ends in "-er" or "-or" for as long as REO Speedwagon has been in my musical consciousness. A word like "forever" is supposed to be sung as "foh(r)eveh", with just a slight hint of the first r sound - never dwelling on it. Kevin Cronin will invariably sing "forrevrrrrr". Drives me nuts.
But then you get a word like "party". And it's taught to sing it as "pahty". But then it sounds like "potty". And that's just embarrassing.

Scintillae |
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Prompt: Should the Youngers accept Lindner's offer to not move in? Explain.
Response: Yes. There are bound to be more white neighborhoods just as willing to pay them off. They should take the offer and repeat the process to recoup their losses until they can pay for medical school and afford a better house. It won't be accepting a lesser status. It will be conning racists.
...I am concerned.

Vanykrye |
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Prompt: Should the Youngers accept Lindner's offer to not move in? Explain.
Response: Yes. There are bound to be more white neighborhoods just as willing to pay them off. They should take the offer and repeat the process to recoup their losses until they can pay for medical school and afford a better house. It won't be accepting a lesser status. It will be conning racists....I am concerned.
I feel like I may need more context on this one, and yet I am afraid to ask for it.
(No, really, I get it; I just don't recognize the character names at the moment.)

Scintillae |
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Scintillae wrote:Prompt: Should the Youngers accept Lindner's offer to not move in? Explain.
Response: Yes. There are bound to be more white neighborhoods just as willing to pay them off. They should take the offer and repeat the process to recoup their losses until they can pay for medical school and afford a better house. It won't be accepting a lesser status. It will be conning racists....I am concerned.
I feel like I may need more context on this one, and yet I am afraid to ask for it.
(No, really, I get it; I just don't recognize the character names at the moment.)

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Because Shiro's a PITA, he asks, "Well, if we let rogues perceive and disable Alarm spells, then why not Forbiddance spells? Aren't they essentially the same idea?"
Eeergh.
I'd take it off FaWtL and into the rules forums, but look at us being all polite and reasonable. I just don't want to go there today. It's been a LONG week...

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My recent reactions to watching Star Trek:
So, I'm guessing Star Trek: Enterprise is just... playing, now. Yeah, just playing.
(It's the fourth-season episode, "In A Mirror, Darkly" parts 1 and 2)
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'Dat baby is so daggum cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute
(It's a baby in Star Trek: Enterprise, the next-to-last episode.)
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WELP!
Star Trek: Enterprise was pretty good, over-all, and ended incredibly well.
Now onto the original series!
(I may or may not be doing a chronological watch-through of Star Trek)
HOLY CARP! That first episode transition in the ST:OS!
Hrm... I recognize no one but Spock. Curious.
It's so 60s~!
... Chris? Is that... Chris... Pike?
(I've never seen the first episode, before.)
((Still watching.))

Vanykrye |
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Because Shiro's a PITA, he asks, "Well, if we let rogues perceive and disable Alarm spells, then why not Forbiddance spells? Aren't they essentially the same idea?"
Eeergh.
I'd take it off FaWtL and into the rules forums, but look at us being all polite and reasonable. I just don't want to go there today. It's been a LONG week...
Yes. They are essentially the same idea. If you can get a rogue (or anyone with the trapfinding ability like an archaeologist bard) on the inside to find the source of the forbiddance and disable it to allow the strike team to teleport in...I'd absolutely allow it.
It's really too bad that a completely not-a-trap undetectable alarm spell is going to throw those plans entirely out the window...because otherwise that sounds like a great heist story and gives the rogue-like character a huge role in making the plan work. Oh...right...it even gives them incentive to stop and plan...(And this is why I take umbrage with arguments that rogues are utterly useless. I allow them to actually do stuff.)

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Freehold DM wrote:The Vagrant Erudite wrote:thoughts on the TV show?I will agree that more than likely Hollywood couldn't do DF justice if it tried.
Paizo comment swapped, of course.
The Dresden TV series disappointed me.
I didn't have an issue with Paul Blackthorne at all as Harry - maybe not what was in my head, but I didn't have any reactions of "Really? Him?"
I had an issue with their portrayal of Bob. No issue with Terrance Mann, really, but far too clean, and I don't really like the take of him as a "human" spirit wandering around the house.
They changed details that they absolutely didn't have to. And that bothered me. The little things that should have been slam dunk easy were changed. The Blue Beetle needed to be there, and it just felt wrong that he was driving a Jeep Wrangler with no personality instead.
They kind of tried to squeeze entire books into one episode. No. Maybe each and every book doesn't work well stretched across an entire 13-episode season, but that's a better show than trying to stuff what is obviously half the story of Fool Moon into a single episode.
It should have been a good show. It was handled badly.
This is my take as well. TV Bob and Books Bob are basically completely different characters.
Add that TV Morgan is far, far too friendly and TV Murphy and Susan ate barely characters... Yeah, pass.

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NobodysHome wrote:Because Shiro's a PITA, he asks, "Well, if we let rogues perceive and disable Alarm spells, then why not Forbiddance spells? Aren't they essentially the same idea?"
Eeergh.
I'd take it off FaWtL and into the rules forums, but look at us being all polite and reasonable. I just don't want to go there today. It's been a LONG week...
Yes. They are essentially the same idea. If you can get a rogue (or anyone with the trapfinding ability like an archaeologist bard) on the inside to find the source of the forbiddance and disable it to allow the strike team to teleport in...I'd absolutely allow it.
It's really too bad that a completely not-a-trap undetectable alarm spell is going to throw those plans entirely out the window...because otherwise that sounds like a great heist story and gives the rogue-like character a huge role in making the plan work. Oh...right...it even gives them incentive to stop and plan...(And this is why I take umbrage with arguments that rogues are utterly useless. I allow them to actually do stuff.)
Seconded. I hadn't considered this before mow but it only makes sense to continue the thread of logic to this point. Id be fine with allowing it.

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Because Shiro's a PITA, he asks, "Well, if we let rogues perceive and disable Alarm spells, then why not Forbiddance spells? Aren't they essentially the same idea?"
Eeergh.
Yeah, this is the kind of thing I was getting at earlier. I actually don't have a strong opinion about how to define 'trap'; it really just comes down to how versatile you want rogues to be. My only strong opinion is that the whole issue highlights why I've become disillusioned with D&D/PF.
There's no explanation of why rogues have this unique ability to directly interact with spells, nor why this ability is [apparently] arbitrarily limited to a class of things unified only by broad intent. To illustrate the issue in another way, a different hypothetical:
If nystul's magical aura (or whatever PF calls it) is cast on a cursed item in order to make it appear harmless, thus effecting a trap for the next person to touch it, can a roguing rogue it? I can see arguments both ways, none especially compelling bc there's no in-game explanation to base a judgment on.

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Vanykrye wrote:Freehold DM wrote:The Vagrant Erudite wrote:thoughts on the TV show?I will agree that more than likely Hollywood couldn't do DF justice if it tried.
Paizo comment swapped, of course.
The Dresden TV series disappointed me.
I didn't have an issue with Paul Blackthorne at all as Harry - maybe not what was in my head, but I didn't have any reactions of "Really? Him?"
I had an issue with their portrayal of Bob. No issue with Terrance Mann, really, but far too clean, and I don't really like the take of him as a "human" spirit wandering around the house.
They changed details that they absolutely didn't have to. And that bothered me. The little things that should have been slam dunk easy were changed. The Blue Beetle needed to be there, and it just felt wrong that he was driving a Jeep Wrangler with no personality instead.
They kind of tried to squeeze entire books into one episode. No. Maybe each and every book doesn't work well stretched across an entire 13-episode season, but that's a better show than trying to stuff what is obviously half the story of Fool Moon into a single episode.
It should have been a good show. It was handled badly.
This is my take as well. TV Bob and Books Bob are basically completely different characters.
Add that TV Morgan is far, far too friendly and TV Murphy and Susan ate barely characters... Yeah, pass.
I even forgot they had Karen and Susan in the show. That should never happen with their importance.
And calling TV Morgan "far too friendly" is putting it mildly.
They also changed too much of Harry's backstory for no reason I could find.

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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:thoughts on the TV show?I will agree that more than likely Hollywood couldn't do DF justice if it tried.
Paizo comment swapped, of course.
Haven't seen it, to be honest, but...I mean...SyFy channel original? Really? The same company that did Eureka? Doesn't bode well.
The reviews I've read seem middling at best, and I don't want my internal image of Harry and the crew to be converted to mediocre acting and low-budget CGI when I'm reading.
That said, I'll probably see it anyway, eventually.

Freehold DM |
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Because Shiro's a PITA, he asks, "Well, if we let rogues perceive and disable Alarm spells, then why not Forbiddance spells? Aren't they essentially the same idea?"
Eeergh.
I'd take it off FaWtL and into the rules forums, but look at us being all polite and reasonable. I just don't want to go there today. It's been a LONG week...
it was a similar line of reasoning that lead us to the split on alarm with silent vs audible for rogues.

Tacticslion |
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Alright!
So. Finished the pre-show Pilot, the one starring Pike. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Now onto the actual OS!
And we're starting off strong with... salt... vampires...?
Hhhhhhh-huh.
Gotta say, though there's a fair response to killing your crew as "that's not acceptable," the crew of the Enterprise are kind of being super-jerks, all things considered.
SV: "Look, all I want is salt. Please. I'm literally starving to death. If not that, please leave us alone."
EC: "No, you can't have it. Also, we're going to poke you with stuff."
SV: "Okay, well, if you're not going to give us salt-"
EC: "We definitely aren't!"
SV: "... right, well, if you're not doing that, please leave us alone and leave, quickly."
EC: "No, I think we'll hang out here for an extended period of time!"
SV: "I really think you should leave."
EC: "No-no. Definitely not."
*SV, literally starving, eats the only available salt; happens to be from a person*
EC: "Welp! Looks like you're an irredeemable monster!"
SV: "But... what if you literally just gave me salt so I wouldn't starve to death. From all the salt you've got."
EC: "No-no, we gotta kill it, dead!"
And then they do.
I mean, yeah, it killed people. And, yes, it was proooooooobably evil. But people kept actively withheld the literal thing that it needed to live. And then actively trying to trap it and kill it.
Kiiiiiiiiiiiinda jerks about the whole thing, guys.

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Tacticslion wrote:Alright!
So. Finished the pre-show Pilot, the one starring Pike. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Now onto the actual OS!
And we're starting off strong with... salt... vampires...?
Hhhhhhh-huh.
Gotta say, though there's a fair response to killing your crew as "that's not acceptable," the crew of the Enterprise are kind of being super-jerks, all things considered.
SV: "Look, all I want is salt. Please. I'm literally starving to death. If not that, please leave us alone."
EC: "No, you can't have it. Also, we're going to poke you with stuff."
SV: "Okay, well, if you're not going to give us salt-"
EC: "We definitely aren't!"
SV: "... right, well, if you're not doing that, please leave us alone and leave, quickly."
EC: "No, I think we'll hang out here for an extended period of time!"
SV: "I really think you should leave."
EC: "No-no. Definitely not."
*SV, literally starving, eats the only available salt; happens to be from a person*
EC: "Welp! Looks like you're an irredeemable monster!"
SV: "But... what if you literally just gave me salt so I wouldn't starve to death. From all the salt you've got."
EC: "No-no, we gotta kill it, dead!"
And then they do.
I mean, yeah, it killed people. And, yes, it was proooooooobably evil. But people kept actively withheld the literal thing that it needed to live. And then actively trying to trap it and kill it.
Kiiiiiiiiiiiinda jerks about the whole thing, guys.
I died laughing.

Scintillae |
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Tacticslion wrote:Alright!
So. Finished the pre-show Pilot, the one starring Pike. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Now onto the actual OS!
And we're starting off strong with... salt... vampires...?
Hhhhhhh-huh.
Gotta say, though there's a fair response to killing your crew as "that's not acceptable," the crew of the Enterprise are kind of being super-jerks, all things considered.
SV: "Look, all I want is salt. Please. I'm literally starving to death. If not that, please leave us alone."
EC: "No, you can't have it. Also, we're going to poke you with stuff."
SV: "Okay, well, if you're not going to give us salt-"
EC: "We definitely aren't!"
SV: "... right, well, if you're not doing that, please leave us alone and leave, quickly."
EC: "No, I think we'll hang out here for an extended period of time!"
SV: "I really think you should leave."
EC: "No-no. Definitely not."
*SV, literally starving, eats the only available salt; happens to be from a person*
EC: "Welp! Looks like you're an irredeemable monster!"
SV: "But... what if you literally just gave me salt so I wouldn't starve to death. From all the salt you've got."
EC: "No-no, we gotta kill it, dead!"
And then they do.
I mean, yeah, it killed people. And, yes, it was proooooooobably evil. But people kept actively withheld the literal thing that it needed to live. And then actively trying to trap it and kill it.
Kiiiiiiiiiiiinda jerks about the whole thing, guys.
Sounds like someone's a bit salty over it.

Tacticslion |

Tacticslion wrote:Sounds like someone's a bit salty over it.Tacticslion wrote:Alright!
So. Finished the pre-show Pilot, the one starring Pike. Pretty good. Pretty good.
Now onto the actual OS!
And we're starting off strong with... salt... vampires...?
Hhhhhhh-huh.
Gotta say, though there's a fair response to killing your crew as "that's not acceptable," the crew of the Enterprise are kind of being super-jerks, all things considered.
SV: "Look, all I want is salt. Please. I'm literally starving to death. If not that, please leave us alone."
EC: "No, you can't have it. Also, we're going to poke you with stuff."
SV: "Okay, well, if you're not going to give us salt-"
EC: "We definitely aren't!"
SV: "... right, well, if you're not doing that, please leave us alone and leave, quickly."
EC: "No, I think we'll hang out here for an extended period of time!"
SV: "I really think you should leave."
EC: "No-no. Definitely not."
*SV, literally starving, eats the only available salt; happens to be from a person*
EC: "Welp! Looks like you're an irredeemable monster!"
SV: "But... what if you literally just gave me salt so I wouldn't starve to death. From all the salt you've got."
EC: "No-no, we gotta kill it, dead!"
And then they do.
I mean, yeah, it killed people. And, yes, it was proooooooobably evil. But people kept actively withheld the literal thing that it needed to live. And then actively trying to trap it and kill it.
Kiiiiiiiiiiiinda jerks about the whole thing, guys.
I mean, this isn't even to mention the fact that the crew actually originally went there because they were responding to a dude's request for more salt.
And they denied the people without even knowing there was anything wrong - they were just, like, "Look, I'm just gonna go figure out what you're hiding, here!" to a totally normal human dude who they'd gone there to help.
(Not to mention that hilarious - I use the term both accurately, but also uncertainly; it's hard to say if it's funny or horrifying - moment near the end of the episode where Spock literally attempts to elbow smash a jaberoni beat a woman with his Vulcan martial arts. I mean, yeah, she wasn't actually human, but he was just so sure he's all, "You think she's human?! Could a human handle THIS?!" *BAM! WAM! SMACK! BIFF! POW! OTHER BATMAN SOUND EFFECTS!*)

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Anyway about alarm spells, I feel that there's a stronger case for letting detect magic detect it then trap finding. I am not back working the CRs because I don't do maths. So if you detect it by detect magic I suppose you can dispel it/spell sunder it next.
Anyway in pathfinder everyone can find magical traps, it just takes a rogue or trapfinding equivalent to disable it.