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Wow. Weirdness.

EDIT: and victory!

The Exchange

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Spiders are considered as vermin and not animals under pathfinder bestiary so I don't need to give them.

*Throws Syrus a towel*


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*burns towel to ash*

Still winning!!


And in your haaaaaiiiiiiirrrrrrr.

(I apologize.)

Grand Lodge

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Also, the spiders are invisible.


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Proper greeting for the snow in the state which features Cleaveland:

Oh-Hi-Snow

*dives to avoid incoming tomatoes*


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Just a Mort wrote:

GM's worst nightmare...

Commune with nature:

”You instantly gain knowledge of as many as three facts from among the following subjects: the ground or terrain, plants, minerals, bodies of water, people, general animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures, or even the general state of the natural setting.” We could get people, powerful unnatural creatures, and general animal population.

Me: There are 113 grizzly bears, 3,319 deer, 84 lynxes, 97 bobcats, 4149 birds, 9040 rabbits, 743 wild boars, 452 wolves, 12014 Squirrels, 110 badgers, 623 weasels, 113065 mice, 1834 snakes, 9654 moles, 96312 lizards, 20367 fishes, 23742 bats.

I'm not sure if I even got the figures or creatures entirely right, but how the heck do you really estimate what there is in a forest in a 6 mile radius...

Also include 1 jackalope so that the PCs are sure to derail the adventure looking for it.


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No, a GM's worst nightmare is a player who is a dick. Anything else in character can be dealt with.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

It snows. Legit. Not just dusting, like 1/4 to 1/2 an inch!

Gotta bundle up and take a walk. First time in 26 years for this former Floridian!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I need to figure out how to restart story mode in Red Dead Redemption 2.

I've done some things...


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Mr. Owl, Esq.. The last of the major lawful NPCs of the Othertown. At least I think so.

Scarab Sages

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captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:

and the best way to approach fifty is firmly in denial about the aging process.

Oh yes. We had to progress to the stage where I refused to read things for him (because he claimed packaging was just too *shiny* to read it) before he got his eyes checked.

Dipper Pines (from the back seat of a car): Wait, is Grunkle Stan driving blindfolded?

Grunkle Stan: No, but with these cataracts I might as well be!

Misses curve and drives through billboard.

I love gravity falls


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Just a Mort wrote:

GM's worst nightmare...

Commune with nature:

”You instantly gain knowledge of as many as three facts from among the following subjects: the ground or terrain, plants, minerals, bodies of water, people, general animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures, or even the general state of the natural setting.” We could get people, powerful unnatural creatures, and general animal population.

Me: There are 113 grizzly bears, 3,319 deer, 84 lynxes, 97 bobcats, 4149 birds, 9040 rabbits, 743 wild boars, 452 wolves, 12014 Squirrels, 110 badgers, 623 weasels, 113065 mice, 1834 snakes, 9654 moles, 96312 lizards, 20367 fishes, 23742 bats.

I'm not sure if I even got the figures or creatures entirely right, but how the heck do you really estimate what there is in a forest in a 6 mile radius...

Great. Thanks Mort. I sent this to Aiymi and Zelda. Aiymi immediately went into her "Mia" character. Mia appears in almost all of our campaigns. She's a gnome and every level she picks what class she's taking based on a die roll. No, it's not close to optimizing. It's highly entertaining.

So this is the response:
Crap, we just lost Mia from the party. She now has the following things on her To Do list:

Bird Watching - find and sketch 4149 birds
Gardening - raise carrots and feed to 9040 rabbits... 9046 rab.... 9108 ra... 9241.... crap...
Wrestling - capture, hug and set free 12014 squirrels
Digging - learn to burrow like the badger do... from at least 100 of them
Parkour - run with 623 weasels, pet and hug (when possible)
Wheeeeee! - 113065 mice, OMG!!! SO ADORABLE!!!
Pungi Concerts - charm 1834 snakes
Hospital Stay - must have full anesthesia to have 9654 moles removed
Suntan - sun myself with 96312 lizards, keep tail souvenirs of the ones that didn't want hugged
Fishing - capture 20367 fish, throw back 19621
Teaching - explain to 23742 bats how to use a Swiffer WetJet for their cave floors


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Vanykrye wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

GM's worst nightmare...

Commune with nature:

”You instantly gain knowledge of as many as three facts from among the following subjects: the ground or terrain, plants, minerals, bodies of water, people, general animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures, or even the general state of the natural setting.” We could get people, powerful unnatural creatures, and general animal population.

Me: There are 113 grizzly bears, 3,319 deer, 84 lynxes, 97 bobcats, 4149 birds, 9040 rabbits, 743 wild boars, 452 wolves, 12014 Squirrels, 110 badgers, 623 weasels, 113065 mice, 1834 snakes, 9654 moles, 96312 lizards, 20367 fishes, 23742 bats.

I'm not sure if I even got the figures or creatures entirely right, but how the heck do you really estimate what there is in a forest in a 6 mile radius...

Great. Thanks Mort. I sent this to Aiymi and Zelda. Aiymi immediately went into her "Mia" character. Mia appears in almost all of our campaigns. She's a gnome and every level she picks what class she's taking based on a die roll. No, it's not close to optimizing. It's highly entertaining.

So this is the response:
Crap, we just lost Mia from the party. She now has the following things on her To Do list:

Bird Watching - find and sketch 4149 birds
Gardening - raise carrots and feed to 9040 rabbits... 9046 rab.... 9108 ra... 9241.... crap...
Wrestling - capture, hug and set free 12014 squirrels
Digging - learn to burrow like the badger do... from at least 100 of them
Parkour - run with 623 weasels, pet and hug (when possible)
Wheeeeee! - 113065 mice, OMG!!! SO ADORABLE!!!
Pungi Concerts - charm 1834 snakes
Hospital Stay - must have full anesthesia to have 9654 moles removed
Suntan - sun myself with 96312 lizards, keep tail souvenirs of the ones that didn't want hugged
Fishing - capture 20367 fish, throw back 19621
Teaching - explain to 23742 bats how to use a Swiffer WetJet for their cave floors

please hug aiymi for me. She does character generation right.


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Well, that's one way to keep oneself occupied. No bleaching for that Gnome.

Hi, everyone.


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Economics Priorities
finishes setting up scenario "So, our problem after looking at unemployment and inflation rates and loss of real GDP, how are we going to fix the economy without increasing the national debt? Yes."
puts down hand "Have you seen the video about the robot shaving the grape?"


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Grass pollen is low today according to the weather report.

No f#~!ing s@!&!?!


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Has anyone seen Lynora?


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Not recently.


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She's around. Haven't seen her post, but I know she's reading.


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Okay. I am thinking of her. And not in any unusually lurid ways, it is just quiet without her is all.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

Proper greeting for the snow in the state which features Cleaveland:

Oh-Hi-Snow

*dives to avoid incoming tomatoes*

And, after a few more levels, you get Great Cleveland.


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I don't think I've said ten actual words all day.

I almost feel sorry for the people that have to interact with me when I go to the grocery store later.


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(1) Yes, I've had an occasional lynora sighting, but she's in "quiet" mode. I should learn from her.

(2) I am afraid that the Madoka Magica manga is really, really bad. No; it just plain sucks.
They basically did the anime first, then wanted to adapt it to manga, so let members of their team who wanted to do it do it. And the result is an unfortunate, amateurish mess:
- The art is very basic. I certainly couldn't have done better, but it is some of the worst manga artwork I've seen. And I've seen One's early work!
- The killer is the storyboarding. Whoever did the storyboard assumed that the reader would already be familiar with the anime. So the brutal 1-minute intro of the anime is reduced to... a single pane. And it doesn't even have Homura in the pane! So when Madoka says, "This is awful!", you're forced to agree.

Just to compare, the first season of One Punch Man was 12 episodes based on 7 books, and the anime manages to be amazingly loyal to the books without dropping too many details (other than the delightful bonus manga at the end of every book). The first season of Madoka Magica was 12 episodes condensed into 3 books. Yeah, the manga suffers greatly. I tried twice to get through at least book 1. It's just too disjointed and amateurish to be at all enjoyable.

On the bright side, I only had to pay for 3 books.

Grand Lodge

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On the down side, you paid for 3 books.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
On the down side, you paid for 3 books.

Meh. I thought it was some famous character who said, "Ah, well. I would have wasted it anyway."

And next time I get into an argument with someone who says, "Manga is always better than anime, period," I can hand over some concrete proof to the contrary. Which is nice because Impus Major does have exactly such an individual who comes over with some regularity.

THAT little demonstration's going to be worth the $30 to me...


NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
On the down side, you paid for 3 books.

Meh. I thought it was some famous character who said, "Ah, well. I would have wasted it anyway."

And next time I get into an argument with someone who says, "Manga is always better than anime, period," I can hand over some concrete proof to the contrary. Which is nice because Impus Major does have exactly such an individual who comes over with some regularity.

THAT little demonstration's going to be worth the $30 to me...

technically, an adaptation of an anime isn't technically a manga. Its something else, the exact name escapes me now. Mook? Something. I have the adaptation for 0083 somewhere lying around.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
On the down side, you paid for 3 books.

Meh. I thought it was some famous character who said, "Ah, well. I would have wasted it anyway."

And next time I get into an argument with someone who says, "Manga is always better than anime, period," I can hand over some concrete proof to the contrary. Which is nice because Impus Major does have exactly such an individual who comes over with some regularity.

THAT little demonstration's going to be worth the $30 to me...

technically, an adaptation of an anime isn't technically a manga. Its something else, the exact name escapes me now. Mook? Something. I have the adaptation for 0083 somewhere lying around.

Well, the anime producers call it a "manga", so if Japanese people do it, I'm going to do it. Nyah! :-P


NobodysHome wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
On the down side, you paid for 3 books.

Meh. I thought it was some famous character who said, "Ah, well. I would have wasted it anyway."

And next time I get into an argument with someone who says, "Manga is always better than anime, period," I can hand over some concrete proof to the contrary. Which is nice because Impus Major does have exactly such an individual who comes over with some regularity.

THAT little demonstration's going to be worth the $30 to me...

technically, an adaptation of an anime isn't technically a manga. Its something else, the exact name escapes me now. Mook? Something. I have the adaptation for 0083 somewhere lying around.

Well, the anime producers call it a "manga", so if Japanese people do it, I'm going to do it. Nyah! :-P

the anime producers calling something something is a good reason not to do it. Was the show originally a light novel or something?


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"Is [the Dancing Lady's captivating dance penalty] just revenge on us for the entire last campaign?"


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Speaking of random things:

  • I'm getting more and more worried about One Punch Man Season 2. Not only is a crapime studio doing it, but in the manga we're through Book 15 and haven't completed any major story arcs since Book 7. And while it looks like things are wrapping up within the next book or two (no spoilers!), if they just go through Book 14 they'll have a nice 12-episode season with no ending. I don't know that any anime studio is going to risk that, so they're going to change the story to fit their needs, and that never ends well.
  • I just handed in my work for the week. Yes, it's Tuesday. After a week off. Sometimes, when you're working with global megacorporations things get slooooow....

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    Vanykyre, I realized I forgot 791 porcupines and 7345 hedgehogs as well...

    If you captured 20367 fish, threw back 19621, you'd be overfishing.


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    I know I go off on it a lot, but seeing/hearing all the nightmarish employee/manager stories out there, I prefer to put out the positive.

    Our VP was all over my manager about a course that hasn't been updated in 2 years, saying that this is "totally unacceptable" and that my manager "isn't doing her job". It was ugly.

    So I grabbed the course. I did a full analysis of it. I noted that it did not need an update. And sent the conclusion to a bunch of director-level people who trust me implicitly. And the VP is kind of terrified of me.
    The VP immediately backed off of my manager.

    So I came back to my manager: "OK. I took care of that little mess for you, but that's everything I had planned for the week. Did you want me doing something else?"
    "Didn't you want to take some time off to do some training courses?"
    "Oh, yeah. Always."
    "OK. Done. Take the rest of the week to take whatever courses you feel like."

    Life is good.


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    We used to have a bunny farm.


    Since there's random anime talk, I don't know if I brought this up before, but can anyone explain why all proper nouns in anime are pronounced in English?

    Like, I KNOW there's a Japanese word for Metal, and they could easily fight an equivalent for Knight, like Samurai, yet if I'm watching the subbed OPM, sure enough I hear "Metal Knight" in a bad Japanese accent, instead of (Google Translate real quick) Kinzokyu Kishi.

    And it seems to be damnnear every anime. And always English.

    I probably brought this up before.

    Grand Lodge

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    Rule of cool. English is taught in Japanese schools, so kids get familiar with the words. It's a cultural thing where adding a few of them sounds cool.


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    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    Kjeldorn wrote:

    Secondly to TS.

    I do kind of think you're conflating what 'Law' is with what it ought to be.
    When I look at what 'Law' is then it's almost in every single case a codified set of rules, enforced through social or government institution, with the perpose of regulating the behaviours of its participants. There is no-where in that form that any claim of moral or ethical justification is absolutely necessary, though it can be used to lend credence to said rules.
    Often you'll see that the very rights we claim entitlement to are in fact curtailed, limited or even waivered when faced with the application of 'Law'. With one of the most used examples being the right to/of private property which can in quite a number of ways curtailing other's access, usage, speech or a myriad of other rights we deem inherent rights in a modern world.

    I think I agree with you, I'm just using 'moral' in a slightly different way.

    ** spoiler omitted **...

    I get what you're saying…

    And further more I really get what you're saying from a political perspective.
    Its a bit difficult to explain succinctly…but 'moral' is mostly an empty term to me. Its been reduced to just another social mechanism for limiting or controlling behaviour in people, which is alright as long as we're are talking about an 'opt in' system...
    This doesn't even touch on the supposed universality of morality, nor the supposed inherit 'correctness' or 'wrongness' in moral claims…
    *sigh*
    Its an interesting topic…something I could discuss for hours, but I feel that would just clutter up this thread.

    Just a Mort wrote:

    GM's worst nightmare...

    Commune with nature:

    ”You instantly gain knowledge of as many as three facts from among the following subjects: the ground or terrain, plants, minerals, bodies of water, people, general animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures, or even the general state of the natural setting.” We could get people, powerful unnatural creatures, and general animal population.

    Me: There are 113 grizzly bears, 3,319 deer, 84 lynxes, 97 bobcats, 4149 birds, 9040 rabbits, 743 wild boars, 452 wolves, 12014 Squirrels, 110 badgers, 623 weasels, 113065 mice, 1834 snakes, 9654 moles, 96312 lizards, 20367 fishes, 23742 bats.

    I'm not sure if I even got the figures or creatures entirely right, but how the heck do you really estimate what there is in a forest in a 6 mile radius...

    *Pats Mort on the head*

    Think you might be putting too much thought into it Kitty...
    I would would probably just list off the presence of a handful of mamalian predators and herbivores (etc for birds, reptiles and such)…with special attention to particular "important/relevant" groups (ie wolves, bears, snakes…you name it).
    or have the players formulate 3 general questions to "ask" nature and answer them with in the parameters of the spell.

    Example:
    Player: "Are there any predators around?"
    Me: "The presence of a large - around the size of a small horse - clawed and furred predator seems to emanate from your surroundings. (You) seem to be amble to spot the places "it" has passed through the undergrowth, where it has sharped its claws on a dead tree… (and so on)
    Player: So is there a bear around…are there more then one around?
    Me: The trees around you seem to nod in agreement with you're assertion...
    More signs of the animal seem to jump to your eyes indicating that it might be trailed by a couple of smaller bears - probably large cubs…

    (Sorry for some of the weird phrasing…I'm lightning translating from Danish to English ^^')

    John Napier 698 wrote:

    Well, that's one way to keep oneself occupied. No bleaching for that Gnome.

    Hi, everyone.

    *Waves to John*


    Hey, Kjel! Doin' well?

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    Questions I read was,

    "What is the general animal population of this region?"

    "How many humanoids other then ourselves are there in this region?"

    "How many unnatural creatures are there in this region?"

    So I read it that he wanted an animal population census, humanoid census and unnatural creature census.

    The level of detail required for the animal population census pretty much killed me. I know it's within the rights to ask for that, but the problem is wow, for a GM to give that, it's not easy. I really do try to research to give information as accurately and realistically as possible, but somehow, I have a feeling I missed something.

    The Exchange

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    I suppose if you wanted to be really anal about it, the birds could be split into their different species, the fish too...

    Lizards into salamanders, newts, chameleons, geckos...

    Oh yes, I know, I forgot the otters! Arrrrggghhh I'm sorry, but I can't really process so much information at once...

    *pulls out fur in despair*


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    *Pets kitty* There, there. *Dangles feather in front of Mort to distract her*

    The Exchange

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    Drejk wrote:
    Mr. Owl, Esq.. The last of the major lawful NPCs of the Othertown. At least I think so.

    I like Mr Owl. Leg writing lol. And smoked glasses. Though I think looking at the trio, the otter mayor should be NG, Mr Owl LN.

    The Exchange

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    John Napier 698 wrote:
    *Pets kitty* There, there. *Dangles feather in front of Mort to distract her*

    Oh noes! Which bird did it come from? Was it an owl, kingfisher, Pelican, raven, osprey, hawk, eagle or Heron?


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    Pigeon. They're endemic to Pittsburgh.


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    A salamander is not a lizard; it is an amphibian.

    The Exchange

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    Arrrrggghhh that means I forgot to add in the frogs, toads, salamanders and beavers! Excuse me, let me go remedy that.


    John Napier 698 wrote:
    Hey, Kjel! Doin' well?

    Alright I guess…

    Got the sniffles.
    Is a bit tired.
    A bit moody.

    Just a Mort wrote:

    Questions I read was,

    "What is the general animal population of this region?"

    The level of detail required for the animal population census pretty much killed me. I know it's within the rights to ask for that, but the problem is wow, for a GM to give that, it's not easy. I really do try to research to give information as accurately and realistically as possible, but somehow, I have a feeling I missed something.

    I don't really believe that question merits an actual animal census by

    by individual type.
    "General" would be the exact opposite of "specific", so if you really want to pull one over on your players, you could simply say "none, few, some or a lot of *insert animal family*"

    (Though personally I would at the very least give the animal genus)

    If it really gives you problems, then simply explain that he fauna and flora is of an average sampling of that particular biotope. Sprinkle in a few exceptions (no wolves, they where hunted to "extinction" in this particular area. No pine trees. No frogs, because of x...that kind of thing) or have your player ask if they are looking for a particular species of animal.


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    Okay. I am thinking of her. And not in any unusually lurid ways, it is just quiet without her is all.

    Thanks! Am NaNoing! 47k words....so....close.......*weeps*


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    (1) Yes, I've had an occasional lynora sighting, but she's in "quiet" mode. I should learn from her.

    (2) I am afraid that the Madoka Magica manga is really, really bad. No; it just plain sucks.
    They basically did the anime first, then wanted to adapt it to manga, so let members of their team who wanted to do it do it. And the result is an unfortunate, amateurish mess:
    - The art is very basic. I certainly couldn't have done better, but it is some of the worst manga artwork I've seen. And I've seen One's early work!
    - The killer is the storyboarding. Whoever did the storyboard assumed that the reader would already be familiar with the anime. So the brutal 1-minute intro of the anime is reduced to... a single pane. And it doesn't even have Homura in the pane! So when Madoka says, "This is awful!", you're forced to agree.

    Just to compare, the first season of One Punch Man was 12 episodes based on 7 books, and the anime manages to be amazingly loyal to the books without dropping too many details (other than the delightful bonus manga at the end of every book). The first season of Madoka Magica was 12 episodes condensed into 3 books. Yeah, the manga suffers greatly. I tried twice to get through at least book 1. It's just too disjointed and amateurish to be at all enjoyable.

    On the bright side, I only had to pay for 3 books.

    Well, now I know what not to get the kiddo for Christmas....

    The Exchange

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    Ok here's the amended list:

    113 grizzly bears, 3319 deer, 84 lynxes, 97 bobcats, 4149 birds, 9040 rabbits, 743 wild boars, 452 wolves, 12014 squirrels, 110 badgers, 623 weasels, 113065 mice, 1834 snakes, 9654 moles, 96312 lizards, 20367 fishes, 23742 bats, 791 porcupines, 7345 hedgehogs, 231 otteres, 353 beavers, 1130 frogs, 503 toads, 7345,000,0 salamanders, 3001 foxes, 76 tortises, 8894 voles, 7499 shrews, 1236 ringhorns, 176 goats.

    I think I've pretty much covered it. Its probably not representative of how a forest looks like, but I tried looking up the nets for the figures, and then just cobbled them together.

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