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Just a Mort wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
Eh, I like paladins. But being as close to one in real life as you are going to get, I understand what makes them tick.

So who's the pally that you know in RL?

I always thought maybe had things been different I might have been pally material. Again having to drag me kicking and screaming to fight a greater barghest, maybe not.

Uh... I didn't think that was ambiguous, but uh... I am the paladin in that sentence.

And don't worry, this doesn't harm my code at all, since ya know... Fur?


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The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:

So, after watching some Peanut Butter Gamer, I remembered how much I enjoy haverst moon, anyone know how good Stardew valley is? or would I be better going with something a little less modern and stick to a wonderful life?

Edit: nevermind, after watching 24 minutes of a play through, stardew is exactly what I want.

Turns out Stardew has no hard copy, BUT it is only 15 bucks for a digital switch download.

I paid more for shovel knight.

Downloaded.

Acorn Acres restoration project is underway.

Well that was a fun first two seasons, it was like the perfect child of Caverna and harvest moon... AND WHAT IN THE WORLD?? Its what time??

I... Completely lost the day after that download...

The Exchange

Oh. I thought you knew a paladin. You're one? Hmm... You don't seem to feel paladin ish to me.

*Gives the Game Hamster a couple of sniffs*


You can always tell a paladin from the scent of fresh cotton and lavender emanating from every pore.

Or damp compost, in my case.


The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:

So, after watching some Peanut Butter Gamer, I remembered how much I enjoy haverst moon, anyone know how good Stardew valley is? or would I be better going with something a little less modern and stick to a wonderful life?

Edit: nevermind, after watching 24 minutes of a play through, stardew is exactly what I want.

Turns out Stardew has no hard copy, BUT it is only 15 bucks for a digital switch download.

I paid more for shovel knight.

Downloaded.

Acorn Acres restoration project is underway.

Well that was a fun first two seasons, it was like the perfect child of Caverna and harvest moon... AND WHAT IN THE WORLD?? Its what time??

I... Completely lost the day after that download...

Oh yeah, Stardew is a great way to lose track of time.

The Exchange

OK the cat of all works is making a floor plan using excel showing where all the cupboards are, and who owns them. It'll be as to scale as possible. But it'll take a while since I need to get nitty gritty details right. I supervised office renovations before, did you know? =)


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captain yesterday wrote:

What I learned today.

Sometimes to straighten out a group of trees you gotta punch them in their (root) balls.

And you wouldn't believe how much mud I pulled out of that hole before I could fit my pipe in there, but boy was that lady happy!

god I love you. When I dont hate you, that is.


Just a Mort wrote:

Between FR and your game world, the gods are powered by their worshippers. That's why I said similar. I will say I hate the Wall of the Faithless mechanic myself but I don't adventure in FR anyway.

And it's OK I sold my soul for cheese a long time ago so selling it another time is fine.

My gods usually don't give a fk either. Well there was an exception where the party was given an amulet to summon a psychopomp to jump start Pharasma's soul judging.

(Justifiable as in some villians are really too dangerous to be allowed to get raised)

Forgotten Realms, now that I hate. With a passion.


captain yesterday wrote:

Paladin threads crack me up personally, half of them are BS anyway.

They're like Stories From Penthouse for nerds.

The paladin in this tale breathlessly went behind the party's back and let go the goblin orphan they'd been planning to torture for information, but in doing so forgot to collect recompense, and thus fell from Abadar's loving embrace. Verily.

dies laughing


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Although, if I started a Facebook page with video feeds of people watering their lawns in the Midwest and then target it towards people in California and Arizona I might be able to single handedly drive up both out of state tourism and assault charges.

From all the enraged people from California and Arizona travelling here to punch people in the face for wasting so much g!*!#~n f%+*ing water.

I dunno, people here are pretty careless about water. Like, you can't drive five blocks in Phoenix without seeing some big water fountain or well-watered lawn. It's kinda stupifying, actually.

Also, I'M GETTING DISCHARGED!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Drejk wrote:
Barring any unforeseen accidents and such, Aquaman will be the first DC movie I will go watch in cinema since Batman Dark Knight.

why is aquaman being released on my birthday?


NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Just watch out for the brutal recoil. A friend of mine that has the .50 Barret dislocated his shoulder because the rifle wasn't seated properly when he fired it.

Yeah, I think Shiro's gun is 47 pounds, not including the case or bipod.

It's a... big gun...

...

Is there going to be any deer left? I am opposed to turning things into chunky salsa/using artillery pieces for hunting.


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NobodysHome wrote:

I still remember when NobodysWife set up Shining Force II for me by choosing my name.

It was... epic.

** spoiler omitted **

she is a shining force fan?

IM A SHINING FORCE FAN!

YOU HAVE TO GET THE SEGA GENESIS COLLECTION FOR XBONE! IT HAS ALL THE SHINING FORCE ON IT!

I LOVE STEAM KNIGHTS! AND CENTAURS! WHAT DOES SHE LOVE?!?!


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Also, I'M GETTING DISCHARGED!!!

Yay! Grats TS!

Just a Mort wrote:

Oh. I thought you knew a paladin. You're one? Hmm... You don't seem to feel paladin ish to me.

*Gives the Game Hamster a couple of sniffs*

In the hamsters defense not all Paladin stink Mort, just a sizeable portion.

Freehold DM wrote:
Just a Mort wrote:

Between FR and your game world, the gods are powered by their worshippers. That's why I said similar. I will say I hate the Wall of the Faithless mechanic myself but I don't adventure in FR anyway.

And it's OK I sold my soul for cheese a long time ago so selling it another time is fine.

My gods usually don't give a fk either. Well there was an exception where the party was given an amulet to summon a psychopomp to jump start Pharasma's soul judging.

(Justifiable as in some villians are really too dangerous to be allowed to get raised)

Forgotten Realms, now that I hate. With a passion.

So a long winded examination of the pros and cons of the FR setting is off the table then?

Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:

Yeah, I think Shiro's gun is 47 pounds, not including the case or bipod.

It's a... big gun...

...

Is there going to be any deer left? I am opposed to turning things into chunky salsa/using artillery pieces for hunting.

Never shot anything bigger then a 30.06 or a .223, which is what we use for hunting up here. (I'm currently without a hunting licence, so its only certified range shooting for me).

Couldn't really imagine using anti-material calibers for game hunting...seems a waste to me. Say you're a little off on your shot and get a gut shot, then theres precious little eatable deer left.


.50 cals are legal in the UK (for the time being), but unless a rhinocerous happens to be running amok, there's nothing for you to shoot with them.


Limeylongears wrote:
.50 cals are legal in the UK (for the time being), but unless a rhinocerous happens to be running amok, there's nothing for you to shoot with them.

Or if you want to stop an SUV that happens to be running amok...


Time to go for at walk.
The weathers nice and bearable today.
Be right back FaWtL'ers

^^

*Starts humming Digital Bath by Deftones*


Back!
Hot and sweaty…
Hmmm…
Time for some Kjeldorn alone time and then a shower me thinks.
^^'
;p


gran rey de los mono wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:
The Game Hamster wrote:

So, after watching some Peanut Butter Gamer, I remembered how much I enjoy haverst moon, anyone know how good Stardew valley is? or would I be better going with something a little less modern and stick to a wonderful life?

Edit: nevermind, after watching 24 minutes of a play through, stardew is exactly what I want.

Turns out Stardew has no hard copy, BUT it is only 15 bucks for a digital switch download.

I paid more for shovel knight.

Downloaded.

Acorn Acres restoration project is underway.

Well that was a fun first two seasons, it was like the perfect child of Caverna and harvest moon... AND WHAT IN THE WORLD?? Its what time??

I... Completely lost the day after that download...
Oh yeah, Stardew is a great way to lose track of time.

Didn't help that I was using a plug-in controller that didn't run out of battery


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Kjeldorn wrote:

Hmmm…

Kind of like. its at the very least straight forward and simple. First shock people get when getting into a non-Raw Golarion game, with me at the helm, is probably how I changed the Gods (and the Alignment based multiverse).

First off. The Gods don't care. Not about you, your family, your city, nor your country. They have quite literally empowered mortal to look after these things so they don't have to, meaning that it the faiths themselves that have to police their own. Each God is often busy shoring up their divine realms, leading military campaigns across the planes, searching for doomsday devices to unleash on their foes and so on, thus they keep themselves busy with their own matters leaving preciously little time for the difficulty of mortals.

It's also the real reason behind the divine non-intervention, ie they could easily do so, but they for their individual reasons whatever it might be, choose not to do so. Though an planetary extinction event might be serious enough to move some of them into action.

Secondly every deity chooses a component of their Alignment as their "essential component" (Its basically what comes closes to their essens). Sarenrae's for example is 'Good', thus she accepts all worshippers of every Alignment, except those who's Alignment is in direct opposition to her "essential component" (ie LE, NE and CE). While Adabar is 'Lawful', thus he accept all worshipers with the exception of those who are CE, CN and CG.

The reason for this is simple. Its to get as many 'tolerable' worshippers as possible and thus ensure as large as possible stream of souls that end up in each Gods respective divine realm. Since its the very stuff of souls that seem to be the only source of material that can shore up the planes against their slow deterioration and create new servants.

The real beauty of this also comes into paly on the material plane from the fact that every faith becomes much more internally diverse. They become full of schisms, differing interpretations, regional dogmatic differences and other weirdness.

That’s an interesting and darker take on the gods! It makes even the Good ones rather uncaring and distant.

Personally I do like gods drawing sustenance and power from worship; it creates a dynamic a lot like democratic government. Gods are like really really powerful politicians; they mostly get to set the rules and do what they want within their own worship-cultures, but they do need the support of worshippers and so sufficiently large and organized groups of worshippers can shift divine policy. If enough worshippers leave the faith for some reason, or if enough of the faithful decide to do things their own way, chances are good that the god in question will have a sudden change of heart and see things the faithful’s way.

The Good gods do genuinely care about mortals, sometimes even personally, but their time and energy is mostly consumed within the divine realms. As you say, they have divine realms to fortify, alliances to maintain, and wars to fight. Additionally, and Homunculus #1 gets credit for this IMO brilliant idea:

The mortal plane is fundamentally mortal, and literally saps divinity. A god who spends time in the mortal plane loses power; too much time, and the god becomes a mere mortal. No wonder the gods are so reluctant to directly intervene in mortal affairs!


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Kjeldorn wrote:

Hmmm…

Kind of like. its at the very least straight forward and simple. First shock people get when getting into a non-Raw Golarion game, with me at the helm, is probably how I changed the Gods (and the Alignment based multiverse).

First off. The Gods don't care. Not about you, your family, your city, nor your country. They have quite literally empowered mortal to look after these things so they don't have to, meaning that it the faiths themselves that have to police their own. Each God is often busy shoring up their divine realms, leading military campaigns across the planes, searching for doomsday devices to unleash on their foes and so on, thus they keep themselves busy with their own matters leaving preciously little time for the difficulty of mortals.

It's also the real reason behind the divine non-intervention, ie they could easily do so, but they for their individual reasons whatever it might be, choose not to do so. Though an planetary extinction event might be serious enough to move some of them into action.

Secondly every deity chooses a component of their Alignment as their "essential component" (Its basically what comes closes to their essens). Sarenrae's for example is 'Good', thus she accepts all worshippers of every Alignment, except those who's Alignment is in direct opposition to her "essential component" (ie LE, NE and CE). While Adabar is 'Lawful', thus he accept all worshipers with the exception of those who are CE, CN and CG.

The reason for this is simple. Its to get as many 'tolerable' worshippers as possible and thus ensure as large as possible stream of souls that end up in each Gods respective divine realm. Since its the very stuff of souls that seem to be the only source of material that can shore up the planes against their slow deterioration and create new servants.

The real beauty of this also comes into paly on the material plane from the fact that every faith becomes much more internally diverse. They become full of schisms,

...

I think even the goodest of good gods is more of a well wisher than anything else.


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Also, damn good idea, homunculus #1. Tequila sunrise, slide him one of your namesake or a dollar, whichever you prefer, post haste.

If only this were the case with forgotten realms.


Hi, everyone.


Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
Just watch out for the brutal recoil. A friend of mine that has the .50 Barret dislocated his shoulder because the rifle wasn't seated properly when he fired it.

Yeah, I think Shiro's gun is 47 pounds, not including the case or bipod.

It's a... big gun...

...

Is there going to be any deer left? I am opposed to turning things into chunky salsa/using artillery pieces for hunting.

The Barret M107 was designed to shoot all the way through engine blocks. The .50 Cal version uses the same ammunition as the Browning M2 Heavy Machinegun.


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I've been using old s$%!ty brooms for so long, now that I have a new one, I'm not sure how to use it.


Knuckles hurting again. Might rain, soon.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I've been using old s+*&ty brooms for so long, now that I have a new one, I'm not sure how to use it.

After nearly 15 years of unbelievably-crappy brooms, I bought a full new set.

So the Impii just broke one of them playing around last night. They're also climbing all over the new furniture, even though they'd outgrown climbing all over the old furniture.

Teenagers. They ruin everything.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

That’s an interesting and darker take on the gods! It makes even the Good ones rather uncaring and distant.

Personally I do like gods drawing sustenance and power from worship; it creates a dynamic a lot like democratic government. Gods are like really really powerful politicians; they mostly get to set the rules and do what they want within their own worship-cultures, but they do need the support of worshippers and so sufficiently large and organized groups of worshippers can shift divine policy. If enough worshippers leave the faith for some reason, or if enough of the faithful decide to do things their own way, chances are good that the god in question will have a sudden change of heart and see things the faithful’s way.

The Good gods do genuinely care about mortals, sometimes even personally, but their time and energy is mostly consumed within the divine realms. As you say, they have divine realms to fortify, alliances to maintain, and wars to fight. Additionally, and Homunculus #1 gets credit for this IMO brilliant idea:

The mortal plane is fundamentally mortal, and literally saps divinity. A god who spends time in the mortal plane loses power; too much time, and the god becomes a mere mortal. No wonder the gods are so reluctant to directly intervene in mortal affairs!

Again Interesting.

And + 1 for Homunculus idea…very clever.
Though I'm not sure how well it fits Golarion as there are Gods who actually have the planet itself as their divine realm (that could change of cause).

If I was to run with your idea, I would probably refine/add the following.
That as a faith evolves/changes/whatever, the God actually evolves with it. So said that some God of Justice (lets call him Hiol) is primarily worshipped in a continent wide empire. Because of internal corruption/decadence/eternal wars/[insert reason], it begin to crumple ushering in a long period of strife, brutality and hardship. Now during this period these worshippers still call upon Hiol, but while he might be call upon during judgements, oaths, contracts and such before, now he's call upon during judgements, executions, punishments and retaliatory raids.
Thus Hiol has transformed, through the power of his worshippers, from a God of Justice (Judgment, oaths, contracts, fair dealing and such -> LN) to a God of (harsh) Justice (Judgements, punishments, executions, torture and such -> LE). In other words as the worshippers changes the focus/importance of Hiol message (effectively a schism in the faith a sometime probably), the God/Goddess morphs with that change in the faith, slowly becoming new Gods effectively.


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Oooh yeah, I love that idea! Although I think it would be a continual feedback loop, with mortal culture influencing the divine as you describe and the gods influencing their worshippers to bring out their better (or worse) natures.

For a Good god, there would be a lot of dilemmas: Like does Hiol put his foot down and tell his faithful what is justice and what is not, and risk losing Empire's Patron status, risk losing worshippers to some less scrupulous god? Does he play the long game, knowing that empires rise and fall and he can change mortal culture for the better? Or does he go "LOL YOLO, it's all good"?


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Additionally, and Homunculus #1 gets credit for this IMO brilliant idea:

The mortal plane is fundamentally mortal, and literally saps divinity. A god who spends time in the mortal plane loses power; too much time, and the god becomes a mere mortal. No wonder the gods are so reluctant to directly intervene in mortal affairs!

This resembles Legend Of Five Rings cosmology, where key trait of Ningen-Do, The Realm Of Mortals, is mortality... Gods who come here can be, and on multiple occasions are killed.

Though there are cases of deities and mortals being revived, usually by being freed from the bounds of their afterlife and finding passage/being led back to Ningen-Do, or another of non-afterlife realms.


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Another thing I've been playing around with is, that the Gods in my version of Golarion are gods by the power of two things (kind of one thing split into two part but whatever), and that is their individual "Great Soul/Essence" and their "Heart/Anchor". The parts are mostly metaphysical, though do at the same time behave kind of like souls meaning that they can be separated from the individual deity, though only under very particular circumstances.

The "Great Soul/Essence", is in its basest form a fragmented collection of the memories, deeds, powers, areas of concern, divine commandments and edicts, "cosmological laws" and such. It is, essentially, what is required to know and understand what it means to be a particular God/Goddess. It is what allow the mantle of Godhood to be transfer from one individual to another somewhat seamlessly, without creating large (well too large at least) continuity breaks between the different "Hearts/Anchors" of each deity. It also exists to makes certain that the knowledge of each deity, and more importantly what it means to be that deity, is transferred only to the right recipient directly (and not trough some other medium, like another deity acting as a mentor).
The individual deity is thus carrying around "parts" of every deity ("of his kind") that came before him/her. It not just their knowledge, but "an actual small part" of them that hangs on to every God/Goddess, often in the form of figment-like "shades" (themed appropriate to each deity) that offer them counsel or rebuke them for their failures. These "shades" can't be seen by anyone other then the God/Goddess themselves (not without powerful magic), but anyone who spends a little bit of time around a deity, would detect that "something" was surrounding the deity. One thing, though is always certain about these "shades", which is that they (at least partially) resemble, former "Hearts/Anchors" of that particular God/Goddess.

The "Heart/Anchor" of a God or Goddess is a bit more complex.

For starters at the center of every "heart" is some sort of corporeal form - either a mortal, outsider or whatnot - that was choose to carry the "essence" of Godhood. This being's mind and soul is then amalgamated with the "essence", until a consensus is reached between the two. This ideally results in the "essence" recognizing the need for the beings incorporation into the whole as an true equal, with particular hopes, dreams and tastes, while the being in turn recognizes the responsibilities and need for continuation of the "essence". Thus, every God and Goddess continues to exist (well attempt to at least) through the eons, only changing so very little as time marches on.

(I'll stop here so I don't just spam walls of text…though I might return to "Hearts/Anchors" tomorrow ^^')


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There's a little less than five hours until Vid gets here. Everyone look busy.


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John Napier 698 wrote:
There's a little less than five hours until Vid gets here. Everyone look busy.

*Scribbles on a piece of paper, fiddles with an abacus, open and closes programs on his desktop while muttering "Never gonna meet that deadline..."

The Exchange

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NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've been using old s+*&ty brooms for so long, now that I have a new one, I'm not sure how to use it.

After nearly 15 years of unbelievably-crappy brooms, I bought a full new set.

So the Impii just broke one of them playing around last night. They're also climbing all over the new furniture, even though they'd outgrown climbing all over the old furniture.

Teenagers. They ruin everything.

You forgot the shaking your hiking stick at them and yelling "Get off my lawn"

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I think my gods don't intervene to avoid god wars, and the Golarion equivalent of a nuclear fallout. Afterall back then when Rovagug had to be sealed, the gods went to war to imprison him, and many of them died. So they will do whatever it takes not to get dragged into ANOTHER god war. Again - that's a primarily pathfinder reason.


Hey Kitty!

*Pats Mort on the back*

Getting ready for a new day? or fiddling with your Pbp campaign?

Also…
Good news, I have gotten my fingers on the excess candy from this weekends gaming/social get-together.

Bad news is that this much candy isn't good for me =(

(4 "plates" of chocolate, 11 small bags of gummies and licorice, a large bag of marsh mellow thingies, 2 bags of hard sweets and handful of small lollipops)

The Exchange

Chocoolate!

*sniffs Kjeldorn and starts shaking him down for it*

I'm going to work, I think I got the NPCs down pat, I'm wondering if I need to flesh out their families and the town more. There won't be all that much interaction with the town..


Just a Mort wrote:

Chocoolate!

*sniffs Kjeldorn and starts shaking him down for it*

I'm going to work, I think I got the NPCs down pat, I'm wondering if I need to flesh out their families and the town more. There won't be all that much interaction with the town..

Looks alright to me.

Pretty much the same as when I prep a small village.
Maybe with the exception that more people are related, but that not in any way necessary.

Would love to send you some treats Mort...
Its just the cost…
*shudders*
Also don't want to bother if you wouldn't want some stranger sending you knick-knacks and Danish candy ^^'


I miss being able to freely eat chocolate. Diabetes sucks. :(


John Napier 698 wrote:
I miss being able to freely eat chocolate. Diabetes sucks. :(

Hmmm…

Don't think there's anything sugar-free in the pile.
I'll take a look tomorrow.

But yes, far too many tasty things get swiped away from the diabetic crowd.

*Pats john on the shoulder*

Now it's time to hit the hay.
Nighty night John, Mort and everyone else!


Good night, Kjel.


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Why I love shopping lists written by artists.

Current shopping list has check off boxes, except for the krabby patty ingredients, those have a flower.


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NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've been using old s+*&ty brooms for so long, now that I have a new one, I'm not sure how to use it.

After nearly 15 years of unbelievably-crappy brooms, I bought a full new set.

So the Impii just broke one of them playing around last night. They're also climbing all over the new furniture, even though they'd outgrown climbing all over the old furniture.

Teenagers. They ruin everything.

you..buy sets of...brooms?

I just buy a new one every new years day, in accordance with tradition.

Corn whisk only. Wooden handle if possible.


Drejk wrote:
Quote:

Additionally, and Homunculus #1 gets credit for this IMO brilliant idea:

The mortal plane is fundamentally mortal, and literally saps divinity. A god who spends time in the mortal plane loses power; too much time, and the god becomes a mere mortal. No wonder the gods are so reluctant to directly intervene in mortal affairs!

This resembles Legend Of Five Rings cosmology, where key trait of Ningen-Do, The Realm Of Mortals, is mortality... Gods who come here can be, and on multiple occasions are killed.

Though there are cases of deities and mortals being revived, usually by being freed from the bounds of their afterlife and finding passage/being led back to Ningen-Do, or another of non-afterlife realms.

MY LIFE FOR DAIGOTSU-SAMA!


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Going home, soon. Good night, everyone.


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At work, now. Good Day, Everyone.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've been using old s+*&ty brooms for so long, now that I have a new one, I'm not sure how to use it.

After nearly 15 years of unbelievably-crappy brooms, I bought a full new set.

So the Impii just broke one of them playing around last night. They're also climbing all over the new furniture, even though they'd outgrown climbing all over the old furniture.

Teenagers. They ruin everything.

you..buy sets of...brooms?

I just buy a new one every new years day, in accordance with tradition.

Corn whisk only. Wooden handle if possible.

Perhaps by "broom set" he means a broom with dustpan, and possibly a smaller broom for nooks and crannies? Or maybe he means that he buys multiple brooms to be spread throughout the house (i.e. one in the kitchen, one in the garage, one for the porch/patio, etc)?

Or it's some kind of rich-person west coast thing.


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Stacy's Mom was released 15 years ago. That means that by now, Stacy could be a Mom that's got it going on.


Maybe people walk around aimlessly while on the phone because they are subconsciously looking for the person they are talking to.

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