and candy!
Edit: and nekkid vidmaster7!
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and candy!
Edit: and nekkid vidmaster7!
*Hums merrily "I smell sex and candy…*
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On a more serious note I think that the world is already messed up enough, so in my fantasies (which applies to anything I do for leisure) I'd rather not see crapsack worlds. Unless I can change them. And that also stops me from running APs where adventurers watch the world burn, or set it on fire(Way of the Wicked).
Call it escapism, if you wish.
Surprisingly I can play Witcher series comfortably as there's still a thread of optimism throughout and there are some people you can help for good.
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Its been a weird night. still not as weird as the cannibalism night but still pretty weird.
See your just inflating his ego.
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Yes it's a matter of personal taste, and these days I don't have much preferance for that kind of stuff anymore.
I like sunshine, flowers, unicorns and rainbows, thank you very much.
Hey I like My little Pony too!
…Hmmmm…
…
Actually all that needed for a crapsack-world is kind of already present.
A Omni-present magical surveillance system that can read your feelings. Check!
A magical empowered group ('secret police') which operates without little oversight, to bring 'dissidents' into line with the mandated laws. Check!
A benevolent dictatorship, which decide all laws based on personal whims and preferences. Check!
A clear (biological?) cast system. Check!
…
*Scribbles down a couple of notes for My little Pony; Under a Iron Hoof
On a more serious note I think that the world is already messed up enough, so in my fantasies (which applies to anything I do for leisure) I'd rather not see crapsack worlds. Unless I can change them. And that also stops me from running APs where adventurers watch the world burn, or set it on fire(Way of the Wicked).
Call it escapism, if you wish.
Surprisingly I can play Witcher series comfortably as there's still a thread of optimism throughout and there are some people you can help for good.
Funnily enough its almost the same reason I like crap-sack worlds.
I find the world boring, monotonous and mostly safe. Its a place where you can't really easily have an impact, as the problem are all to often intractable, extremely complicated and overwhelming.Thus we creates crappy worlds that one can change, where one can get catharsis from the real world, where one can escape to when things in the real world get us down, and where we can go when wants to get the feeling of a measure of control.
So yea, I kind of get where where you're coming from, though I kind of just see things from a slightly different point of view.
If you think the world is safe, move to Wisconsin! Every day someone runs the risk of getting stabbed by Dustin Diamond or trampled by fair addled cattle.
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Hmm You know I've always felt the greatest threat to my life would be the actions of another human.
(most likely car accident)
If you think the world is safe, move to Wisconsin! Every day someone runs the risk of getting stabbed by Dustin Diamond or trampled by fair addled cattle.
"Mostly safe"
and I've been on the receiving end of a fair addled animal before.
Though it was a horse...
My brother though got in the way of a addled ram.
^^'
You're not the only one. Sometimes even this thread gets too risque for me.I'm sorry, no rubbing allowed. I'm a prudish cat.*Brings over a table, a assortment of oil and lotion bottles and gives Mort a pleading look*Seconded. I wouldn't let Freehold rub me either.I seem to be rubbing everyone the wrong way today. Either that or I am having a day where I fail to read people/situations properly. Frustrating.Repeat after me, "There is no right way to rub strangers..."
...say what?
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So last night, the Netflix Conversation went something like:
"So, police procedural with the Cat from Red Dwarf, or the latest season of Agents of SHIELD where the writers have jumped the shark so badly, the shark that Fonzie jumps over is actually Jabberjaw?"
(sigh) "I don't care; you pick."
(scrolling) "Hey! They've got The Last Jedi streaming now!"
"Sure. How bad can it be?"
(an hour and a half of viciously MST3King it later)
I honestly cannot believe it's really that bad.
Maybe I'm hallucinating.
They could have afforded script writers if they'd wanted them.
What in the everloving f*** did they do to Star Wars?
I hate people. I hate people so much.
AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SIT DOWN AND WATCH THE OTHER HALF OF IT.
lest anyone forget, phantom menace still exists.
I don't have any issues with Star Wars episode 8 and 9.
Anything's better then Yuuzhan Vong.
I thought they sounded neat.
I didn't read the novels, but they still seemed like a cool idea.You see once the Yuuzhan Vong came into the picture it all ended up as an intergalatical war where good people died. And the horrors of war irreparably corrupted good people(think PTSD), and lead to some rather nasty stuff in legacy of the force series.
** spoiler omitted **
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Which really made the whole thing too dark for my taste. So anything without Yuuzhan Vong is a good thing!
the yuuzhan vong were an interesting idea.
They ended up not belonging in star wars.
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...say what?You're not the only one. Sometimes even this thread gets too risque for me.I'm sorry, no rubbing allowed. I'm a prudish cat.*Brings over a table, a assortment of oil and lotion bottles and gives Mort a pleading look*Seconded. I wouldn't let Freehold rub me either.I seem to be rubbing everyone the wrong way today. Either that or I am having a day where I fail to read people/situations properly. Frustrating.Repeat after me, "There is no right way to rub strangers..."
Didn't think anything I said was particularly difficult to understand.
There have definitely been times the overt flirtation and sexual comments in this thread - primarily but not exclusively yours - have made me (and others) uncomfortable. We just tend not to say anything because it always ends the same way: getting called prudes and told to lighten up.
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Yeah I like the actors ok (I actually really like rey in particular) but the script for the last 2 have been pretty well lets remake episodes 4, 5, and 6 but without the good stuff. I liked 1, 2, and 3 better. the little chicken thingys were cute however.
Did you hear the reason why Porgs?
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Yeah I like the actors ok (I actually really like rey in particular) but the script for the last 2 have been pretty well lets remake episodes 4, 5, and 6 but without the good stuff. I liked 1, 2, and 3 better. the little chicken thingys were cute however.Did you hear the reason why Porgs?
Because Skellig Michael is covered in Atlantic Puffins, and since the filmmakers couldn't do anything to get them out of the way, they had to CGI something make-believe over the top of them.
Somehow that makes them even cuter.
I do think people forget that america is so huge it can be drastically diverse. Going from one coast to the other is like going to a different country in some ways.I ran into 2 Coloradans on the way to the Henderson waves. They were puffing and panting but at least I think the guy was over 60 since his hair and beard were white. I wonder if Americans as a whole really don’t do stairs well…Nah. To many of us to lump everyone in a group like that.
Going from the Bay Area to the central valley is very much like going to a different country... and that's barely over an hour's drive...
Going from the Bay Area to the central valley is very much like going to a different country... and that's barely over an hour's drive...I do think people forget that america is so huge it can be drastically diverse. Going from one coast to the other is like going to a different country in some ways.I ran into 2 Coloradans on the way to the Henderson waves. They were puffing and panting but at least I think the guy was over 60 since his hair and beard were white. I wonder if Americans as a whole really don’t do stairs well…Nah. To many of us to lump everyone in a group like that.
true dat.
Going from the Bay Area to the central valley is very much like going to a different country... and that's barely over an hour's drive...I do think people forget that america is so huge it can be drastically diverse. Going from one coast to the other is like going to a different country in some ways.I ran into 2 Coloradans on the way to the Henderson waves. They were puffing and panting but at least I think the guy was over 60 since his hair and beard were white. I wonder if Americans as a whole really don’t do stairs well…Nah. To many of us to lump everyone in a group like that.
so I have heard.
Then again, driving through Brooklyn is much the same.
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I could get used to having a vacant lot next door to where we're working where I can indiscriminately dump materials.
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Going from Wisconsin to Illinois is like going to a Third World country.
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There have definitely been times the overt flirtation and sexual comments in this thread - primarily but not exclusively yours - have made me (and others) uncomfortable. We just tend not to say anything because it always ends the same way: getting called prudes and told to lighten up.
First off, as I am among the people who have said thing of a flirtatious and sexual nature, let me just state this:
You aren't a prude.If it makes you uncomfortable it makes you uncomfortable.
Now let me be honest for a moment.
Now that you've stated your discomfort, does that mean I won't ever do so again? Unlikely.
I mean I'll try and be considerate and tone things down sure, but I'm not really sure I can just turn it off completely.
I guess I was born a pervert and will likely die as one.
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Ditto, apologies for any discomfort my occasional innuendo may cause others. I'll no doubt do it again, but I'll try to keep it classy.
In other news, I am in hospital again with another lung infection. I caught this one earlier than the last one, so hopefully this time is a shorter stay.
Aren't we only on ep 8 of star wars? Saw it on Netflix and was underwhelmed as well. Though full disclosure -- eps 4-6 are only 'good' for me, not 'life-changing' or 'classic.'
I totally get the feeling that the world is s!!$ty enough, so I don't want crapsack worlds in my entertainment. I do agree with Kjeld, I like bad worlds that can be made better through dramatic action. The problems in our world are complex, interconnected, and underlying, and it's hard to feel like we can do anything about them.
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The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
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Going from Wisconsin to Illinois is like going to a Third World country.
Just because our roads suck...
Just because our governors end up in prison...
Just because we don't have the money to do anything except remodel the Governor's Mansion...
Just because the first towns you come across in Illinois on I-39 from Wisconsin are South Beloit and Rockford...
Ok, fine, I concede.
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Sometimes I wish they'd make a film out of the Elric books.
Most of the time I'm glad they haven't.
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Ditto, apologies for any discomfort my occasional innuendo may cause others. I'll no doubt do it again, but I'll try to keep it classy.
In other news, I am in hospital again with another lung infection. I caught this one earlier than the last one, so hopefully this time is a shorter stay.
Aren't we only on ep 8 of star wars? Saw it on Netflix and was underwhelmed as well. Though full disclosure -- eps 4-6 are only 'good' for me, not 'life-changing' or 'classic.'
I totally get the feeling that the world is s%+&ty enough, so I don't want crapsack worlds in my entertainment. I do agree with Kjeld, I like bad worlds that can be made better through dramatic action. The problems in our world are complex, interconnected, and underlying, and it's hard to feel like we can do anything about them.
*Offers beverage of choice*
Speedy recovery TS!
As for Star Wars...
Yea not a fan of the current direction of the main trilogy, though I've found the spin-off films good enough.
Maybe they should just handle the movies as, they do 'period-pieces'...just in this case it would be...errr...'setting-pieces' instead?
Really for my money, they might just as well try and make other types of movies, then 'ye old space opera', set in the star wars universe right now. Kind of feel that the 'uniqueness' of the films has kind of worn off.
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The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
I definitely agree there's a lack of objectivity surrounding Star Wars. There obviously shouldn't be complete objectivity when dealing with an art form such as film, but there needs to be some.
Personally, I don't have a lot of hatred for the prequels. Jar-Jar is a bit much and sometimes painful. Vader's "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!" was really cringe-worthy. "We are brave," from Phantom Menace was just an awfully delivered line. Many of the lines were delivered by mannequins. A lot of people give Hayden Christensen a lot of crap about his performances in those movies, but I submit that there were a lot of people that signed off on that performance as good enough for release. It's not all Hayden's fault. A lot of people screwed that one up. But the overarching plot of the three movies was good. Darth Maul was a great, sinister thug in the first movie and Dooku was a wonderfully brilliant tactician as "The Obvious Bad Guy Clearly Leading the Enemy Armies" for the other two movies.
I really like the new movies. Again, they've had moments that made me cringe a bit. Leia force-pulling herself back into the cruiser could have been done better, sure. The casino planet could have been truncated a bit more. Stuff like that.
And that brings me back to the original trilogy. It's been put on a pedestal. People seem to forget that Mark Hamill accidentally called out "Carrie!" instead of "Leia!" after he got back from blowing up the Death Star. And it was left in. Dialogue the actors could barely say themselves, with practice. Carrie Fisher's amazing disappearing accent. People didn't seem to notice the sound effect gaffe in Empire at the wampa cave, where you clearly hear a lightsaber get turned off, but the blade stayed on. Another sound gaffe in Empire as Luke is falling in Bespin after his hand is cut off. And remember, everyone rates Empire as the best of the Star Wars movies. Ewoks in Return of the Jedi because Lucas decided it couldn't be Wookies after they made Chewbacca too technically adept.
My point is...well...simply that the original movies were just as flawed by some shaky writing, shaky acting, odd post-production, and all the other gripes as the last 6 movies have been (counting Solo in that), but it's the original trilogy that's on this insurmountable pedestal and it's completely skewing the way people have been reacting to the latest movies. People are holding them to a standard that simply does not exist.
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550+ posts, this time.
My Two Coppers:
1) My eyes are a hodgepodge of light green and light blue, and lightly freckled. And I am quite light-sensitive -- to the point that driving at night can get complicated, as the new-fangled umpteen-bajillion-lumens headlights are f@Г×in' agonizing. And that's just off the assembly line. Since I live in Whoo, NASCAR!! 'Murica! West TN, there is a significant portion of the vehicle-operating demographic that simply must add light bars, spotlights, extra headlights, accent lights, foglights, etc. to every frikkin' gorram horseless carriage they own.
I have, and will, and **must**, come to a complete stop on the roadway to let them pass, and then wait(ed) for my eyesight to readjust before putting my truck in motion again.
And my night vision is excellent.
2) Concerning the Width of TN Roadways: What Orthos said.
Short story a bit longer -- When I get light-blinded while driving at night, 98 times out of 100 it involves having the passenger-side wheels on the road shoulder. Guaranteed. And would still be so in daylight.
Oooooh. Sidebar!
Discuss -- the inverse proportion of drivers with hella-sized trucks residing in super-rural areas with the tiniest of traffic arteries. And, no, I'm not talking about work vehicles. At all.
3) RE: lisamarlene and the TLJ Stream --
It was never in doubt, but your awesomeness persists and redoubles!!
Do wear a helmet, though, 'kay? :)
4) Here's the real question: Yes, we all know the merriment of Sex and Candy, but how many of you know the grit of St. Joe on the School Bus, the melancholy of One More Suicide, or the depth of A Cloaking Robe of Elvenkind?
Been a couple years since I spun this one up . . . . Yeah, this is a good time. :)
6) Finally -- Woot! FUNEMPLOYMENT, BABY!!!! Hell, yeah!!
Walked out Saturday. That place is near hopelessly lost, and I can't fix it on my own.
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Going from Wisconsin to Illinois is like going to a Third World country.Just because our roads suck...
Just because our governors end up in prison...
Just because we don't have the money to do anything except remodel the Governor's Mansion...
Just because the first towns you come across in Illinois on I-39 from Wisconsin are South Beloit and Rockford...
Ok, fine, I concede.
If it helps, our biggest city is an even s%!!tier version of your biggest city.
Or as coworker put it "travelling from Chicago to Milwaukee is like going from a dumpster to a trashcan filled with s+%&"
And don't get me started on Iowa.
Let's just say, getting stabbed by Screech is the least of your worries in Iowa.
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The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
I definitely agree there's a lack of objectivity surrounding Star Wars. There obviously shouldn't be complete objectivity when dealing with an art form such as film, but there needs to be some.
Personally, I don't have a lot of hatred for the prequels. Jar-Jar is a bit much and sometimes painful. Vader's "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!" was really cringe-worthy. "We are brave," from Phantom Menace was just an awfully delivered line. Many of the lines were delivered by mannequins. A lot of people give Hayden Christensen a lot of crap about his performances in those movies, but I submit that there were a lot of people that signed off on that performance as good enough for release. It's not all Hayden's fault. A lot of people screwed that one up. But the overarching plot of the three movies was good. Darth Maul was a great, sinister thug in the first movie and Dooku was a wonderfully brilliant tactician as "The Obvious Bad Guy Clearly Leading the Enemy Armies" for the other two movies.
I really like the new movies. Again, they've had moments that made me cringe a bit. Leia force-pulling herself back into the cruiser could have been done better, sure. The casino planet could have been truncated a bit more. Stuff like that.
And that brings me back to the original trilogy. It's been put on a pedestal. People seem to forget that Mark Hamill accidentally called...
Agreed so hard. I'm apparently an alien to most people because I view the original trilogy as just okay. Maybe it's just that I'm in just the right age bracket to have missed really caring, but aside from the movies being groundbreaking for their time, I can't find anything really...great about them. A few good lines and character designs, but...yeah.
The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
See orthos? We can agree on some things!
More seriously, looking at the prequels with a critical eye, they STILL suck to me, although attack of the clones has some nice moments. I do think you have an excellent point in letting time go by and an even better one with respect to the role star wars plays in american society/pop culture, however.
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...say what?You're not the only one. Sometimes even this thread gets too risque for me.I'm sorry, no rubbing allowed. I'm a prudish cat.*Brings over a table, a assortment of oil and lotion bottles and gives Mort a pleading look*Seconded. I wouldn't let Freehold rub me either.I seem to be rubbing everyone the wrong way today. Either that or I am having a day where I fail to read people/situations properly. Frustrating.Repeat after me, "There is no right way to rub strangers..."
Didn't think anything I said was particularly difficult to understand.
There have definitely been times the overt flirtation and sexual comments in this thread - primarily but not exclusively yours - have made me (and others) uncomfortable. We just tend not to say anything because it always ends the same way: getting called prudes and told to lighten up.
+1. I usually tend to just go radio silent till it blows over, but...yeah.
The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
I definitely agree there's a lack of objectivity surrounding Star Wars. There obviously shouldn't be complete objectivity when dealing with an art form such as film, but there needs to be some.
Personally, I don't have a lot of hatred for the prequels. Jar-Jar is a bit much and sometimes painful. Vader's "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!" was really cringe-worthy. "We are brave," from Phantom Menace was just an awfully delivered line. Many of the lines were delivered by mannequins. A lot of people give Hayden Christensen a lot of crap about his performances in those movies, but I submit that there were a lot of people that signed off on that performance as good enough for release. It's not all Hayden's fault. A lot of people screwed that one up. But the overarching plot of the three movies was good. Darth Maul was a great, sinister thug in the first movie and Dooku was a wonderfully brilliant tactician as "The Obvious Bad Guy Clearly Leading the Enemy Armies" for the other two movies.
I really like the new movies. Again, they've had moments that made me cringe a bit. Leia force-pulling herself back into the cruiser could have been done better, sure. The casino planet could have been truncated a bit more. Stuff like that.
And that brings me back to the original trilogy. It's been put on a pedestal. People seem to forget that Mark Hamill accidentally called...
disagree with you on the prequels, there with you on the new stuff. I do think the best parts of last jedi ended up on the cutting room floor.
Going from Wisconsin to Illinois is like going to a Third World country.Just because our roads suck...
Just because our governors end up in prison...
Just because we don't have the money to do anything except remodel the Governor's Mansion...
Just because the first towns you come across in Illinois on I-39 from Wisconsin are South Beloit and Rockford...
Ok, fine, I concede.
If it helps, our biggest city is an even s%~+tier version of your biggest city.
Or as coworker put it "travelling from Chicago to Milwaukee is like going from a dumpster to a trashcan filled with s*!&"
hey! I liked chicago!
Agreed so hard. I'm apparently an alien to most people because I view the original trilogy as just okay. Maybe it's just that I'm in just the right age bracket to have missed really caring, but aside from the movies being groundbreaking for their time, I can't find anything really...great about them. A few good lines and character designs, but...yeah.The main problem with Star Wars is that it's had forty some odd years to stew into a pop culture behemoth and for the original trilogy to reach reverential status. Nothing will ever measure up to it, especially not in today's cynical climate and after all the time it's had to cement the original trilogy as cornerstones of the sci-fi/fantasy film history.
I'll likely come back to the sequels in 5-10 years when the hype and rage have worn off, and people will be able to look at them with a more critical eye like they did the prequels. But sadly anyone doing to to the originals will remain few and far between most likely.
I definitely agree there's a lack of objectivity surrounding Star Wars. There obviously shouldn't be complete objectivity when dealing with an art form such as film, but there needs to be some.
Personally, I don't have a lot of hatred for the prequels. Jar-Jar is a bit much and sometimes painful. Vader's "NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!" was really cringe-worthy. "We are brave," from Phantom Menace was just an awfully delivered line. Many of the lines were delivered by mannequins. A lot of people give Hayden Christensen a lot of crap about his performances in those movies, but I submit that there were a lot of people that signed off on that performance as good enough for release. It's not all Hayden's fault. A lot of people screwed that one up. But the overarching plot of the three movies was good. Darth Maul was a great, sinister thug in the first movie and Dooku was a wonderfully brilliant tactician as "The Obvious Bad Guy Clearly Leading the Enemy Armies" for the other two movies.
I really like the new movies. Again, they've had moments that made me cringe a bit. Leia force-pulling herself back into the cruiser could have been done better, sure. The casino planet could have been truncated a bit more. Stuff like that.
And that brings me back to the original trilogy. It's been put on a pedestal. People seem to forget that Mark
and thank you for this point. The age we are introduced to things plays a major role too, I can see someone introduced to Star Wars at the wrong age during the wrong time period.
I also wonder what would happen if you and Orthos were the oldest people here, and not the youngest.
And don't get me started on Iowa.
Let's just say, getting stabbed by Screech is the least of your worries in Iowa.
you keep describing states where I have loved ones, or at least hope to...
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and thank you for this point. The age we are introduced to things plays a major role too, I can see someone introduced to Star Wars at the wrong age during the wrong time period.
I think I've broken this down before, but to clarify -
I was about 10 when The Phantom Menace came out, so I watched the original trilogy around then. All of it was just...okay. I didn't really get the cult following around it. Still don't. Notably, I saw The Princess Bride right around the same time, and I have watched that so often that I'm pretty sure it has altered my DNA.
The Force Awakens came out when I was well into my 20s. I actually had more fun with it than I did with A New Hope. Possibly because it was just the same story retold anew - maybe this was what people back in '79 felt like when the first one came out. Maybe that was intentional. But it was still just...fun. Not great. Not one I would plan for repeated rewatching like I do with other favorites.
But the Star Wars movies have never been groundbreaking in their storytelling. They follow the monomyth to the note. I've outright used A New Hope to teach it because it follows it so perfectly. It isn't a new story and was never trying to be. The prequels had Lucas on board to creatively strangle everything. The new ones? From what I've seen, they actually do play with expectations far beyond anything the other trilogies ever did, and that alone I think is commendable. Maybe they're just mediocre, but...well, Hollywood's great for that anymore.
Just let them be big, dumb action movies. Sometimes, that's all a movie is and all it needs to be fantastic. But I think we still expect, rather unfairly from historical precedent, Star Wars to be something more.
...and give me a lightsaber. I still want one.
and thank you for this point. The age we are introduced to things plays a major role too, I can see someone introduced to Star Wars at the wrong age during the wrong time period.I think I've broken this down before, but to clarify -
I was about 10 when The Phantom Menace came out, so I watched the original trilogy around then. All of it was just...okay. I didn't really get the cult following around it. Still don't.
The Force Awakens came out when I was well into my 20s. I actually had more fun with it than I did with A New Hope. Possibly because it was just the same story retold anew - maybe this was what people back in '79 felt like when the first one came out. Maybe that was intentional. But it was still just...fun. Not great. Not one I would plan for repeated rewatching like I do with other favorites.
But the Star Wars movies have never been groundbreaking in their storytelling. They follow the monomyth to the note. I've outright used A New Hope to teach it because it follows it so perfectly. It isn't a new story and was never trying to be. The prequels had Lucas on board to creatively strangle everything. The new ones? From what I've seen, they actually do play with expectations far beyond anything the other trilogies ever did, and that alone I think is commendable. Maybe they're just mediocre, but...well, Hollywood's great for that anymore.
Just let them be big, dumb action movies. Sometimes, that's all a movie is and all it needs to be fantastic. But I think we still expect, rather unfairly from historical precedent, Star Wars to be something more.
...and give me a lightsaber. I still want one.
mm.
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Ditto, apologies for any discomfort my occasional innuendo may cause others. I'll no doubt do it again, but I'll try to keep it classy.
In other news, I am in hospital again with another lung infection. I caught this one earlier than the last one, so hopefully this time is a shorter stay.
Aren't we only on ep 8 of star wars? Saw it on Netflix and was underwhelmed as well. Though full disclosure -- eps 4-6 are only 'good' for me, not 'life-changing' or 'classic.'
I totally get the feeling that the world is s+@*ty enough, so I don't want crapsack worlds in my entertainment. I do agree with Kjeld, I like bad worlds that can be made better through dramatic action. The problems in our world are complex, interconnected, and underlying, and it's hard to feel like we can do anything about them.
Heal up, man.
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Credit where credit's due, the Clone Wars cartoon on Netflix is a blast.
Credit where credit's due, the Clone Wars cartoon on Netflix is a blast.
your thoughts on the computer animated one?
Edit- whoops, I thought you were talking about the cartoon network shorts.
Agreed, and makes Grievous actually threatening., which is probably one of my favorite expansions. He was woefully underused in the movies, and did not live up to his reputation in his short time on screen. Clone Wars fixed that and soundly.
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Basically Clone Wars proves the prequels had a lot of potential that was just misused, rather than being inherently flawed at the foundation.
Credit where credit's due, the Clone Wars cartoon on Netflix is a blast.your thoughts on the computer animated one?
I meant the computer animated one. I've not actually watched the 2D from when I was a kid.
...and give me a lightsaber. I still want one.
Basically Clone Wars proves the prequels had a lot of potential that was just misused, rather than being inherently flawed at the foundation.
many people feel that way. I dont know if I could count myself among them.
Phantom menace is why I NEVER do opening nights for films EVER.
Thoughts on Rebels?