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I told you guys, I'm out of beer!Have you been drinking again?Also, Hi FAWTLies.Ah, welcome then, and very good. Congratulations on your shedding of lurker status. It's like the day parents throw their baby into the water to force it to swim or something.
You really should do something about that.
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Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
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Also, Hi FAWTLies.Welcome! Did you get cookies yet?thanks.
i appreciate the offer, but no cookies for me. share 'em with the other gobs, why don't ya?
You post demonstrates that Lilith has not yet given you cookies. She missed me, too. <Begins Lilith-summoning ritual.>
Anyone got any ducklings, thyme, or siding?
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Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
Done one where the PC checked for poison only to find out the goblet was in fact poisoned.
Another where he walked out onto the balcony and grabbed the rail only to have it fall apart and have to make a ref save not to fall to his doom.
I prefer stuff like that to outright attacks.
Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
1. Has the player done anything to bring this on their self?
2. Would there be any success conditions in which their playing the pregen successfully could result in them regaining their PC alive?| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Solnes didn't join. She is among The Founders. ::Flashes lapel pin::By that definition, so am I! We talked about this before. You been taking any mind-altering substances since Solnes went AWOL?
I don't remember seeing you post a page or two after IssacX. Are you wearing your skull hat pressed too far down on your head again?
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Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
1. Has the player done anything to bring this on themselves?
2. Would there be any success conditions in which their playing the pregen successfully could result in them regaining their PC alive?
3. Is the player Sebastian?
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3. Is the player Sebastian?Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
1. Has the player done anything to bring this on themselves?
2. Would there be any success conditions in which their playing the pregen successfully could result in them regaining their PC alive?
Wouldn't that fall under #1?
How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.
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Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
Sounds fine although why would they attack the PC at his/her desk? Won't help from guards be close by?
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Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
Anything like that orange juice?
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Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
1. Has the player done anything to bring this on themselves?
2. Would there be any success conditions in which their playing the pregen successfully could result in them regaining their PC alive?
2: yes, all the mooks are geared towards non-lethal damage (unarmed, lassos), there is a NPC cleric in the party and it's in their best interest to take you alive. NPC is well-optimized rogue/poisoner who thematically belongs in your kingdom and can carry his weight.
1: not you in particular, but your nation. Also, the Marshal is in fact the actual target and you're just step one of the trap.
Jester, I like the way you think. The first is exactly how I had envisioned it going...contact poison on the goblet/teacup.
Anything like that orange juice?Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
The spontaneous apple juice ==> apple wine transformation was spectacular. And it made an entire gallon. That was a good Sunday.
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Sounds fine although why would they attack the PC at his/her desk? Won't help from guards be close by?Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
Only time he's alone is at the desk. Even then, low-level mook guards do stand by, but Hit Team is aware and can teleport/be invisible/has their own mook team. Fighter/Wizard/Cleric, with a Rogue infiltrator on the inside of the castle.
Plan was to mob him (playing a Sorcerer, so very tricky and dodgy), knock him out (either via poison or nonlethal/lethal damage combo) and 'port away (via conjurer or Travel Cleric). Optimal success means the bad guys get initiative, whomp the poor sod, and cart him off before anyone knows anything is wrong. Well, any PC, that is.
Guards shout the alarm, other PCs get involved in the scene, I hand Mr. Kidnap Victim a shiny new Rogue NPC to play for the interim, and they go on a Rescue the Diplomat quest.
Would you A: enjoy the adventure and challege or B: get in a huff because I "took your PC away" for a bit?
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I don't remember seeing you post a page or two after IssacX. Are you wearing your skull hat pressed too far down on your head again?Solnes didn't join. She is among The Founders. ::Flashes lapel pin::By that definition, so am I! We talked about this before. You been taking any mind-altering substances since Solnes went AWOL?
I guess you could say that your little club is exclusive to everyone who posted before page 23, but that'd be mean!
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The spontaneous apple juice ==> apple wine transformation was spectacular. And it made an entire gallon. That was a good Sunday.Anything like that orange juice?Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
This intrigues me. More info please.
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This intrigues me. More info please.The spontaneous apple juice ==> apple wine transformation was spectacular. And it made an entire gallon. That was a good Sunday.Anything like that orange juice?Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
Leave it out where it can ferment. Drink the result. :P
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WTF?!? It seems that some of you are actually talking about gaming stuff! On a gaming website?!? Preposterous! What will the neighbors think?
** spoiler omitted **
Wouldn't internet neighbors be like WWW.Whitehouse.Com (NSFW, thus no linky)?
Or perhaps like those people who sit next to you on the bus/train and read your phone/tablet/laptop over your shoulder?
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The spontaneous apple juice ==> apple wine transformation was spectacular. And it made an entire gallon. That was a good Sunday.This intrigues me. More info please.
Not much to tell. I attended a large university in the midst of cow pastures for one year. That fall, I stopped by a roadside stand selling fresh-pressed apple cider. I had one glass in my dorm room, then set the gallon down on the floor near the radiator. I remembered it a couple of weeks later one lonely Sunday when I had nothing to do but study, and Lo! It was good! Sweet, winey, mellow... I sipped and studied away the day, which remains in my memory as golden and slightly hazy.
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Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
This post appeals to my love of intentional misspelling!! Approbation! Also, Patti Smith! (And the Good Jefferson Airplane.) Related? Kinda.
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Leave it out where it can ferment. Drink the result. :PThis intrigues me. More info please.The spontaneous apple juice ==> apple wine transformation was spectacular. And it made an entire gallon. That was a good Sunday.Anything like that orange juice?Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
ah. While I have had that happen to me, I could not safely imbibe the result. Something about the burning feel put me off.
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Anything like that orange juice?Quite *hic* good and only alightly slalcoholic.How did it turn out?AZ (or anyone else), have you ever brewed your own rootbeer?We did so in junior high science class using Hires extract.
We've had . . . incidents . . . with fermented orange juice. It tastes really good!
Edit: It was unintentionally fermented. Kind cool to think that's how the first alcohol was made.
We've had . . . incidents . . . with fermented orange juice. It tastes really good!
Automatic screwdrivers?
Sounds fine although why would they attack the PC at his/her desk? Won't help from guards be close by?Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
Only time he's alone is at the desk. Even then, low-level mook guards do stand by, but Hit Team is aware and can teleport/be invisible/has their own mook team. Fighter/Wizard/Cleric, with a Rogue infiltrator on the inside of the castle.
Plan was to mob him (playing a Sorcerer, so very tricky and dodgy), knock him out (either via poison or nonlethal/lethal damage combo) and 'port away (via conjurer or Travel Cleric). Optimal success means the bad guys get initiative, whomp the poor sod, and cart him off before anyone knows anything is wrong. Well, any PC, that is.
Guards shout the alarm, other PCs get involved in the scene, I hand Mr. Kidnap Victim a shiny new Rogue NPC to play for the interim, and they go on a Rescue the Diplomat quest.
Would you A: enjoy the adventure and challege or B: get in a huff because I "took your PC away" for a bit?
My advice, FWIW:
1. Choose a player you know.2. Make sure the plan is one that is well thought out and would work, aside from GM fiat.
3. Think about how apparent the success conditions for the player will be.
In other words, I think that a player who was mature and enjoyed overcoming a challenge would appreciate be singled out for something like this. If s/he put a lot of thought into the character, play into the unique way they developed that character as a part of the kidnapping plot.
ah. While I have had that happen to me, I could not safely imbibe the result. Something about the burning feel put me off.
Going in or coming out?
Also, Hi FAWTLies.
Welcome!
My advice, FWIW:
1. Choose a player you know.
2. Make sure the plan is one that is well thought out and would work, aside from GM fiat.
3. Think about how apparent the success conditions for the player will be.In other words, I think that a player who was mature and enjoyed overcoming a challenge would appreciate be singled out for something like this. If s/he put a lot of thought into the character, play into the...
"Know thy player" sounds like good advice. I would not mind something like that at all, but other people I know would hate it.
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I don't remember seeing you post a page or two after IssacX. Are you wearing your skull hat pressed too far down on your head again?Solnes didn't join. She is among The Founders. ::Flashes lapel pin::By that definition, so am I! We talked about this before. You been taking any mind-altering substances since Solnes went AWOL?
I guess you could say that your little club is exclusive to everyone who posted before page 23, but that'd be mean!
Wow, you were one of the tumble weeds that blew through, but you actually blew back in. But you posted as Gark, not LCD.
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We've had . . . incidents . . . with fermented orange juice. It tastes really good!Automatic screwdrivers?
The 'rents didn't drink it. Us kids did. Things got a bit silly. At that age, we didn't know the meaning of "screwdriver" beyond the thing Mal uses to stab the agent. (An anachronism? How did that get in there?) (Okay, we hadn't seen the movie then. I meant the thing you use to turn screws, but I got sidetracked.) We had, however, had normal orange juice with a bit of champagne in it. So it was something like that.
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Sounds fine although why would they attack the PC at his/her desk? Won't help from guards be close by?Hypothetical situation time:
Your PC has come up for an Assassination Event in Kingmaker. You serve as the Grand Diplomat, and know that the former Magister of the kingdom has a grudge with you.
One afternoon, you get jumped at your desk doing the "flunky to the queen" job by a CR=APL adventuring party team and a bunch of easy-to-kill mooks. If they succeed, your PC gets grabbed/killed and you get handed a pre-generated NPC to play for the interim of the rescue.
Fun situation? Annoying? Too contrived or other problems here?
Only time he's alone is at the desk. Even then, low-level mook guards do stand by, but Hit Team is aware and can teleport/be invisible/has their own mook team. Fighter/Wizard/Cleric, with a Rogue infiltrator on the inside of the castle.
Plan was to mob him (playing a Sorcerer, so very tricky and dodgy), knock him out (either via poison or nonlethal/lethal damage combo) and 'port away (via conjurer or Travel Cleric). Optimal success means the bad guys get initiative, whomp the poor sod, and cart him off before anyone knows anything is wrong. Well, any PC, that is.
Guards shout the alarm, other PCs get involved in the scene, I hand Mr. Kidnap Victim a shiny new Rogue NPC to play for the interim, and they go on a Rescue the Diplomat quest.
Would you A: enjoy the adventure and challege or B: get in a huff because I "took your PC away" for a bit?
My advice, FWIW:
1. Choose a player you know.
2. Make sure the plan is one that is well thought out and would work, aside from GM fiat.
3. Think about how apparent the success conditions for the player will be.In other words, I think that a player who was mature and enjoyed overcoming a challenge would appreciate be singled out for something like this. If s/he put a lot of thought into the character, play into the...
cool, good to know its not an instant "GAH!WTF?" flag.
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The 'rents didn't drink it. Us kids did. Things got a bit silly. At that age, we didn't know the meaning of "screwdriver" beyond the thing Mal uses to stab the agent. (An anachronism? How did that get in there?) (Okay, we hadn't seen the movie then. I meant the thing you use to turn screws, but I got sidetracked.) We had, however, had normal orange juice with a bit of champagne in it. So it was something like that.We've had . . . incidents . . . with fermented orange juice. It tastes really good!Automatic screwdrivers?
mmmm....mimosa....almost as good as screwdrivers.....
Are you planning on keeping the player apprised of their character's situation, or are they subbed with the new NPC entirely? I'd be nosy about what my char was hearing/feeling/doing, if anything.
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"Know thy player" sounds like good advice. I would not mind something like that at all, but other people I know would hate it.My advice, FWIW:
1. Choose a player you know.
2. Make sure the plan is one that is well thought out and would work, aside from GM fiat.
3. Think about how apparent the success conditions for the player will be.In other words, I think that a player who was mature and enjoyed overcoming a challenge would appreciate be singled out for something like this. If s/he put a lot of thought into the character, play into the...
Certain of my players would by like, "Awesome! New character! Can I keep them after we finish saving my old one?" And then I'd groan.
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Wow, you were one of the tumble weeds that blew through, but you actually blew back in. But you posted as Gark, not LCD.I don't remember seeing you post a page or two after IssacX. Are you wearing your skull hat pressed too far down on your head again?Solnes didn't join. She is among The Founders. ::Flashes lapel pin::By that definition, so am I! We talked about this before. You been taking any mind-altering substances since Solnes went AWOL?
I guess you could say that your little club is exclusive to everyone who posted before page 23, but that'd be mean!
Hence the ooc. I figured one of the dretchings would most accurately portray my tone (well, except Poppyseed, who can be a jerk).
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Are you planning on keeping the player apprised of their character's situation, or are they subbed with the new NPC entirely? I'd be nosy about what my char was hearing/feeling/doing, if anything.
well, preferably he'll be out for a couple of hours at least. I do plan on delivering a physical whoopin' on him after all.
If he does awaken, I'm sure he's gonna wanna bail on the grabbers ASAP, and like I said, is a Sorcerer of quite significant skill. I have a few contingency plans in mind (bag on head, hands behind back, etc), but if he really presses the issue and manages to charm/dominate/teleport his way out of the kidnapping, good for him.
I expect the party will still hunt down and engage the enemies, which works out just fine for me.
@ Gark: I hope they keep the new guy around. That works out perfectly for my long-term plans.
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Isn't that longer than you've been alive?You know, I actually think it's been close to 20 years since I've had a screwdriver to drink.I can understand why you haven't had another.
Seeing as you were doing drinking 20 years back, I'm going to postulate that you were alive back then. So at the maximum you've only been undead two years longer than I've been alive.