Elven Blood of Half-Elves


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

I'm pretty sure this is in the wrong place ...but I'm not sure where to place this question, so here will do.

The Helf-Elf racial ability says, "Half-Elves count as both elves and humans for *any* effect related to race."

The elven racial ability - Weapon Familiarity says this, "Elves are proficient with longbows(including composite longbows), longswords, rapiers, and shortbows(including composite shortbows), and treat any weapon with the word 'elven' in its name as as a martial weapon."

Does that mean that an 'Elven' Curve Blade counts as a martial weapon for half-elves?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

No it does not. Effects are strictly the effects of magic upon the character as defined by blood type.

i.e.if an item functions only for characters of elven blood it will activate for half-elves.

On the other side if an orc is attacking a half elf with an elven bane spear, the half-elf will be damaged as if he was an elf. Said character would also get the extra damage from a Human bane weapon. if both qualities are somehow active on the weapon he would take damage from both.

The racial ability is not intended to mean anything outside the scope above.

So the answer to your last question is No. For half-elves it's as exotic as it would be for any other non-elf.

Liberty's Edge

Ok. That's kinda what I was assuming anyways... just wanted confirmation. It sounded too good to be possible so I figured it was not the case, Thx!

The Exchange

LazarX is right, but if it's for a PC concept, I might allow a Half Elf to gain the Elven weapon familiarity in place of maybe the Skill Focus. Reflecting maybe he was raised by his elven parent in elven society.

Liberty's Edge

Well, no. He was raised by his human parent... the character I'm referring to is my new PFS character - Reyhansu Haraadzi = Half-Elf, male, Magus 1.

He's now posted at the site. Long history...I'm not sure if I won't change it to ...streamline it. Seems too wordy to me and perhaps just a bit too grand... I have that problem sometimes when I write.


LazarX wrote:
No it does not. Effects are strictly the effects of magic upon the character as defined by blood type.

This part isn't completely correct, but only due to omission. You count as elf for the purposes of feats, class features (such as favored enemy), accessing prestige classes (few of these left that have racial requirements), and magical effects (such as spells and magical items).

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Abraham spalding wrote:
LazarX wrote:
No it does not. Effects are strictly the effects of magic upon the character as defined by blood type.
This part isn't completely correct, but only due to omission. You count as elf for the purposes of feats, class features (such as favored enemy), accessing prestige classes (few of these left that have racial requirements), and magical effects (such as spells and magical items).

Only two PrC's have racial requirements, and only one of them is Elf. As I understand it Paizo will eventually update the descriptions of Arcane Archer and Dwarven Defender to make them race neutral.

I don't know of any feats that require pure elven blood, but I would houserule that certain magic items such as elven chain use methods that are only taught to pure blooded elves.


LazarX wrote:

Only two PrC's have racial requirements, and only one of them is Elf. As I understand it Paizo will eventually update the descriptions of Arcane Archer and Dwarven Defender to make them race neutral.

I don't know of any feats that require pure elven blood, but I would houserule that certain magic items such as elven chain use methods that are only taught to pure blooded elves.

Yeah you are correct on the prestige classes, and as to the feats, elven accuracy springs to mind.

This works for the Human side as well, allowing access to the racial heritage feat.


LazarX wrote:
No it does not. Effects are strictly the effects of magic upon the character as defined by blood type.

so what dose?

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chaoskin wrote:
LazarX wrote:
No it does not. Effects are strictly the effects of magic upon the character as defined by blood type.
so what dose?

As mentioned in the thread above, things like bane weapons.

Also, it's not just magic. Things like a Ranger's favored enemy come into play--a half elf would count as human for favored enemy humanoid (human) and elf for favored enemy humanoid (elf).


this came up

Elven Immunities: Elves are immune to magic sleep effects and get a +2 racial saving throw bonus against
enchantment spells and effects.

do half-elf get that?


chaoskin wrote:

this came up

Elven Immunities: Elves are immune to magic sleep effects and get a +2 racial saving throw bonus against
enchantment spells and effects.

do half-elf get that?

Half Elves get what is listed under half elves, nothing else.

PRD wrote:


+2 to One Ability Score: Half-elf characters get a +2 bonus to one ability score of their choice at creation to represent their varied nature.

Medium: Half-elves are Medium creatures and have no bonuses or penalties due to their size.

Normal Speed: Half-elves have a base speed of 30 feet.

Low-Light Vision: Half-elves can see twice as far as humans in conditions of dim light. See Additional Rules.

Adaptability: Half-elves receive Skill Focus as a bonus feat at 1st level.

Elf Blood: Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race.

Elven Immunities: Half-elves are immune to magic sleep effects and get a +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells and effects.

Keen Senses: Half-elves receive a +2 racial bonus on Perception skill checks.

Multitalented: Half-elves choose two favored classes at first level and gain +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever they take a level in either one of those classes. See Classes for more information about favored classes.

Languages: Half-elves begin play speaking Common and Elven. Half-elves with high Intelligence scores can choose any languages they want (except secret languages, such as Druidic).

So, a half elf get's all that. If it's not on that list, they don't get it. If it's on that list, they get it.


that my bad

i dony play half-elf so i dont look at them much

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