What happens to lawful Barbarians?


Rules Questions


The other alignment restricted classes (Clerics, Druids, Monks, Paladins) all have a section at the end of their entry about what happens when they change to a forbidden alignment and/or violate their code of conduct. But the barbarian section ends with Greater Rage even though in the opening section it says they must be non-lawful.

Note that I'm working off of a 1st printing Core Rules.


Darigaaz the Igniter wrote:

The other alignment restricted classes (Clerics, Druids, Monks, Paladins) all have a section at the end of their entry about what happens when they change to a forbidden alignment and/or violate their code of conduct. But the barbarian section ends with Greater Rage even though in the opening section it says they must be non-lawful.

Note that I'm working off of a 1st printing Core Rules.

The PRD says they lose the ability to rage, and cannot level up in barbarian while lawful.

Silver Crusade

Ex-Barbarians
A barbarian who becmes lawful loses the ability to rage and cannot gain more levels as a barbarian. She retains all other benefits of the class.

Right in online SRD.


They become governors?

Apparently your books is lacking, as after Greater Rage there should be also Indomitable Will, Tireless Rage and Mighty Rage.

Grand Lodge

Raise dead here. Is there no way, even through archetypes, to play a lawful barbarians?

Grand Lodge

I mean, the monk has an alignment free option, where is some options for the barbarian? Is there even 3rd party stuff?

Sczarni

If you want to go by RAW, once a barbarian becomes lawful he stops being a barbarian, loses all his powers, and there ain't nothing he can do about it. Since Druids and Paladins etc. have explicit options for regaining control, and the Barbarian doesn't, that implies that Barbarians aren't meant to be able to regain their powers once they lose them in this way.

RAI, I'd say an atonement spell would work for them just like it does for the other classes. Becoming lawful is a strange thing to "atone" for, but I can see a CN druid casting it for you.

I can see it now: a noble berserker, tempted by the fruit of city life, finds himself gone soft and returns to his clan to seek forgiveness. The chieftain shows mercy and directs him to the clan's soothsayer to perform the ritual to reawaken the fury that yet lies dormant in his heart.

Grand Lodge

Seems odd to be so harsh to the barbarian. Why such hate?


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WHO DARES TO DISTURB MY ONE YEAR SLUMBER!?

Grand Lodge

There is nothing out there?


Troll, there is one archetype: it's the "King of Aquilonia" archetype. Unfortunately, you have to be playing in the Hyborean Age, and there's only one wizard in the whole setting. But, with the combined powers of RAGELANCEPOUNCE and OMGWTFBBQIHASAKINGDOM, it sort of mitigates the magic imbalance.

Crom! Count the dead threads!

Grand Lodge

I think you a referring to something that I do not know, or does not exist. Conan was totally a fighter by the way.


At some point in the comic series, Conan becomes king of a nation called Aquilonia. He became faithful to one woman (his queen), and had a son. It was like Conan started off as a mixture of whiskey, dragon's blood, and diesel fuel, and ended up as a diet wine cooler.

Howard only wrote Conan from '32 until '36, when he committed suicide.

And if Conan was ever anything other than a barbarian, it would have been a rogue. He never got into soldiering or wearing heavy armor; at most, just a light chain muscle shirt.


Yeah, there is no way to have a lawful barbarian who can rage.

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