I've been around, playing D&D since the switch from 3rd ed. to 3.5, and during that time it was stated that Horses are 'large' creatures, yet occupy a space ten feet long by five feet wide, the standard 2x1 format on battlemats, however some times I found things to contradict this, be it in later editions (such as 4th ed) or in 'additional products' such as the animal tokens floating around that occupy a 2x2 area or one of WOTC's old D&D minis of a mounted paladin that occupied a 2x2 area. Not to mention the fact that I cannot find anywhere in the PFRPG Core, Gamemastery, Advanced Player's guide or even the bestiary that will tell me what size of an area they occupy.
Anyone out there who can give me an 'official' answer or is it all up to user discretion?
Large minis in 3.x always occupy a 2X2 area on a battlemap.
All minis are 1x1, 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, etc, and that is that is the place they are considered to take up on the map. I think the 3.5 monster manual or DMG had creature sizes in it.
Large minis in 3.x always occupy a 2X2 area on a battlemap.
No. There were 2x1 creatures and the like in 3.0. It was one of the changes made in 3.5, mainly because the game wasn't supposed to use facing rules, and a 2x1 creature has facing built in.
EDIT: I also forgot that there are a crap ton of Reaper minis floating out there with 2x1 base equivalences, further adding to the confusion on my part.
Reaper minis aren't D&D or Pathfinder minis. They fit the game(s) quite nicely, but that is because they're made with the 28mm standard, which is an industry standard of sorts for minis.
That means that the minis are usually just right for D&D or PF, but not all the time.
Horse minis with 2x1 basing is just one example. Creatures that don't quite look like in the games is another (unless they're licensed and created specifically for that game, like that Pathfinder red dragon). Sometimes, they're not even the right size (which is partially because wizards decided to change creature sizes in some instances for their new game, which means that even some of their own miniatures are the wrong size depending on which game you play).
No. There were 2x1 creatures and the like in 3.0. It was one of the changes made in 3.5, mainly because the game wasn't supposed to use facing rules, and a 2x1 creature has facing built in.
Large minis in 3.x always occupy a 2X2 area on a battlemap.
I know(after checking). :). Studpuffin had corrected me so I was just too lazy to change it.
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I know(after checking). :). Studpuffin had corrected me so I was just too lazy to change it.No. There were 2x1 creatures and the like in 3.0. It was one of the changes made in 3.5, mainly because the game wasn't supposed to use facing rules, and a 2x1 creature has facing built in.
Large minis in 3.x always occupy a 2X2 area on a battlemap.
Pffft. I ninja'd you! >:)