Oh... damn. I am speechless.
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Princess Mononoke. That movie is made of awesome, through and through.
Okay, let's limit the field just a teensy bit further:
a) and b) above, plus c) is a live-action movie.
Oh, and yeah... the ear tentacles are BRUTAL fail. =)
Arguably pan's labyrinth, though it isn't swords and sorcery style fantasy, it is most definitely a fantasy film.
I say this as one of that loose not community of science fiction and fantasy fans who is feckin' tired of the best of both being deigned their proper place by the literary establishment, because genre fiction isn't allowed to be good.
Another good one that I just re-watched last night - The Dark Crystal! Awesome movie!
Also, I personally loved Dragonslayer - decent story and awesome pre-CGI special effects.
Krull wasn't half bad either.
Labyrinth and Mirror Mask too
Oh, and the ray harryhausen films :D
Another good one that I just re-watched last night - The Dark Crystal! Awesome movie!
Also, I personally loved Dragonslayer - decent story and awesome pre-CGI special effects.
Krull wasn't half bad either.
Bilbo Bagshot: I was like you once. Blonde hair. Scraggly little beard. Childlike ears. Full of beans, and spunk. I let my principles get in the way of things. I punched a bloke in the face once for saying Hawk the Slayer was rubbish.
Tim: Good for you.
Bilbo Bagshot: Yeah, thanks. But that's not the point, Tim. The point is I was defending the fantasy genre with terminal intensity, when what I should have said was "Dad, you're right - but let's give Krull a try, and we'll discuss it later."
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Many contests have no purchase methods of entering... but there's no legal requirement that there be one. Otherwise state lotteries would be in a lot of trouble.Is there an alternate way to enter without using the character builder? Most contests have laws about no purchase necessary.
Other question - like the 3rd edition hardcover, will the movie come with a parental warning label? :)
I do not think you are correct, at least in the United States. State lotteries are legal because states pass laws making them legal. Generally speaking, in the US games of chance are illegal for non-state entitites with exceptions (religious and charity raffles). There are, however, more and more states passing casino laws which make gambling legal within the state in certain environments.
My understanding (and it may be out of date as laws continue to change) is that most for-profit companies cannot offer "games of chance" legally. Multi-state companies need to be especially careful, as each state has different "games of chance" laws; what may be acceptable in some states may not be in others. Some states for instance, I believe have "small game" exceptions which allow you to gamble at home for a penny-poker game while still preventing bookies from taking large bets. But again, each state is different.
labrynth
lady hawk
red sonya
lady hawk
Oooo! Forgot about Lady Hawk.
Narnia.
I have to say I did not think Krull or Red Sonya are 'good'. Just my opinion.
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+1 for Conan. "It is was is best in life."
Willow was not bad.
The Chronicles of Narnia were all pretty well done.
Excalibur (I know others disagree but I thought this film was well done.)
Ladyhawke:
Beastmaster and Sword and the Sorcerer: (both B films and done a little tongue and cheek but such was the 80's films)
Dragon Slayer: Very well done though dark.
Dragonheart: Perhaps not the greatest of films but watchable and fun.
Oh man looks like a bunch ninjiaed me.
OMG! I can't believe no one mentioned Monty Python & the Holy Grail.
I'd argue that Conan the Destroyer movie was relatively decent. It wasn't as awesome as the first, but it was a hell of alot better than either of the D&D movies.
The 13th Warrior is total awesome and a perfect D&D movie!
I'd argue that Conan the Destroyer movie was relatively decent.
I must now move this thread into the Off-Topic section because you speak blasphemy! That abomination was not a movie by any stretch of the definition and therefore, this thread is now Off-Topic.
Oh! And I am taking my toys and going home!
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I'd argue that Conan the Destroyer movie was relatively decent.I must now move this thread into the Off-Topic section because you speak blasphemy! That abomination was not a movie by any stretch of the definition and therefore, this thread is now Off-Topic.
Oh! And I am taking my toys and going home!
Hey it was better then Red Sonja!! but not by much
Hey it was better then Red Sonja!! but not by much
readhead > blonde
Get back in the Off-Topic section so I can insult you some more.
And if you do not agree, please state one fantasy movie that a) did not suck, and b) wasn't Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.
Ladyhawke.
Stardust.Willow.
Time Bandits.
The Narnia series.
Dragonheart.
Dragonslayer.
Solomon kane.
Etc., etc., etc.
It is perfectly possible to have a fantasy movie, even a very low budget one, be a good movie. However, the low budget ones now tend to suck royally and spend too much on CGI.
Is the forum eating anyone else's posts?
And if you do not agree, please state one fantasy movie that a) did not suck, and b) wasn't Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings.
Ladyhawke.
Stardust.Willow.
Time Bandits.
The Narnia series.
Dragonheart.
Dragonslayer.
Solomon kane.
Etc., etc., etc.
It is perfectly possible to have a fantasy movie, even a very low budget one, be a good movie. However, the low budget ones now tend to suck royally and spend too much on CGI. ladyhawke in particular has some very fabulous acting going on, especially during the scene with Imperius and Phillipe in the monastery at night.
"You have stumbled upon a tragic story, Phillipe Gaston, and now, whether you like it or not, you are lost in it... with the rest of us."
My understanding (and it may be out of date as laws continue to change) is that most for-profit companies cannot offer "games of chance" legally. Multi-state companies need to be especially careful, as each state has different "games of chance" laws; what may be acceptable in some states may not be in others. Some states for instance, I believe have "small game" exceptions which allow you to gamble at home for a penny-poker game while still preventing bookies from taking large bets. But again, each state is different.
Even assuming, arguendo, that you are correct (you aren't, but the why is incredibly complicated - let's just say your local church can run a raffle without breaking any laws), what WotC is proposing isn't a lottery, but rather a contest of skill. The presumption is that they'll pick the best NPC villain of the lot - not just draw a name out of a hat.
And since there's no payment fee to enter the contest - people who are already subscribed, for example, have to pay nothing - this can't be said to be "for a fee" either.
See? No purchase is necessary.
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Even assuming, arguendo, that you are correct (you aren't, but the why is incredibly complicated - let's just say your local church can run a raffle without breaking any laws),...
I said "for-profit" companies cannot offer games of chance (typically). A church is a "not-for-profit," and has no bearing on anything I said.
And as for "no purchase necessary," I'm not sure how to use the character builder without being a customer of the character builder.
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Why is it that fantasy movies always seem to fall flat? Is it because you need a budget like that of a small country to make them work? Is it something else, I dunno, like fantasy plots don't translate well to movies? Is it simply that good directors do not touch them?
It's the same trap that horror and science-fiction movies fall into. They don't get a lot of respect from the industry as a whole. As such, the more talented directors, actors, etc tend to gravitate away from them. As such, the quality isn't all that hot. Which is why the industry doesn't show them much respect...
...See? No purchase is necessary.
...I'm not sure how to use the character builder without being a customer of the character builder.
Yeah, even if I'd loyally bought 4e & Essentials, without the character builder subscription, I can't enter. :( I know I'd have little chance of winning if I could enter, but right now I have no chance.
Willow
I'd argue that Conan the Destroyer movie was relatively decent.I must now move this thread into the Off-Topic section because you speak blasphemy! That abomination was not a movie by any stretch of the definition and therefore, this thread is now Off-Topic.
Oh! And I am taking my toys and going home!
I know how you feel. For many years, I detested the film. But then I came to a realization, it wasn't a Conan movie, but a D&D movie. At that point all the campyness seemed to suddenly be not only tolerable but enjoyable. Now it is one of my favorite movies, but it is still not a Conan movie.
Whatever happened to that animated Conan movie that was coming out?
And can you get the Solomon Kane movie in a Region 1 DVD?
Whatever happened to that animated Conan movie that was coming out?
And can you get the Solomon Kane movie in a Region 1 DVD?
I have been wondering that myself. I would like to get a copy of the movie.
Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.
And can you get the Solomon Kane movie in a Region 1 DVD?
No, unfortunately. I watched it online. For some retarded reason they can't get a company to release it in the states. You might be able to Netflix it.
Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.
Drizz't? I thought you said a GOOD series.
Okay, Ladyhawke and Stardust are good, I'll give you that. Conan isn't, really, unless you like the Thulsa Doom cultist/hippies. I have a hard time seeing Mirrormask, Time Bandits and some others as fantasy, but that's another discussion. Willow is a great movie, as is Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, and I could add the Neverending Story and some others here, but these really are children's movies. I am not saying fantasy can't be children's movies, but that's really sidestepping the question. A fantasy movie can always be universally loved if it is for children.
But please, keep them coming. And if "so bad they're hilarious" is on the table too, I'll add The Barbarian Brothers.
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Okay, Ladyhawke and Stardust are good, I'll give you that. Conan isn't, really, unless you like the Thulsa Doom cultist/hippies. I have a hard time seeing Mirrormask, Time Bandits and some others as fantasy, but that's another discussion. Willow is a great movie, as is Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, and I could add the Neverending Story and some others here, but these really are children's movies. I am not saying fantasy can't be children's movies, but that's really sidestepping the question. A fantasy movie can always be universally loved if it is for children.
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of bad fantasy children's movies.
I would also argue the best ones are good because they are not juvenile in temperament, sacchrine in sentiment and condescending in their script. They are intelligently written, mature in theme and appeal to both adults and children. I don't think of Labyrinth and Dark Crystal as children's movies, though they appeal to children. They are simply good movies. Same with Willow. Just because a show is suitable for children does not mean it is a children's show.
I also disagree about Conan. I think it is a good movie marred only by the presence of the hippy-cultist. But that is probably just a matter of taste.
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But please, keep them coming.
Ok.
Ray Harryhausen fantasy.
Ex.: Jason & The Argonauts, The Sinbad movies, and so forth.
Also, I don't really think there's a distinction between kid's movies and adult movies. A good fantasy movie is a good fantasy movie, no matter what age it's targeted at.
I know how you feel. For many years, I detested the film. But then I came to a realization, it wasn't a Conan movie, but a D&D movie. At that point all the campyness seemed to suddenly be not only tolerable but enjoyable. Now it is one of my favorite movies, but it is still not a Conan movie.I'd argue that Conan the Destroyer movie was relatively decent.I must now move this thread into the Off-Topic section because you speak blasphemy! That abomination was not a movie by any stretch of the definition and therefore, this thread is now Off-Topic.
Oh! And I am taking my toys and going home!
On the other hand "The Scorpion King" was a great Conan movie
Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.Drizz't? I thought you said a GOOD series.
Welll..What if BoVD has Drizzt as it's protagonist..after all we only have a Title to go on..
Welll..What if BoVD has Drizzt as it's protagonist..after all we only have a Title to go on..Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.Drizz't? I thought you said a GOOD series.
Good heavens, don't give them any more ideas!
Good heavens, don't give them any more ideas!Welll..What if BoVD has Drizzt as it's protagonist..after all we only have a Title to go on..Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.Drizz't? I thought you said a GOOD series.
I trust them to have enough bad ideas on their own...
Excalibur!
It's very mildly NSFW. I think that was more of a courtesy flag than a real warning, but some work places are more strict than others.For Kthulhu..NSFWshakes fist
Damn you! You've awoken my curiousity! Now I have to wait until later this evening when I'm home to watch this.
Must. not. click. link.
I don't know it gave me some very NSFW thoughts... so if your job includes thought police, stay away.
I didn't say that Conan the Destroyer was a good Conan movie. It isn't. Neither conan movies are good conan movies. However, they are enjoyable fantasy movies. The first was definitely better, but the second was still good. Grace Jones in a skimpy outfit the entire time. "How do you attract a man?" "You grab him. You take him." The construct was alive until the PCs successfully performed a CMB check on it to remove the horn.
Well, I didn't see this coming, especially since the first movie is considered by some researchers to be the worst part of the holocaust and the second is only a bit better.
I actually liked the second movie. The first one I put in the same category as Star Trek I, Star Wars I (episode one), and Warlock II: Armageddon.
There was soooooo much anticipation for the first D&D movie that the producers felt compelled to do it with an all-star cast and top writers. The problem is that none of those folks seemed to have any notion what D&D was really about.
(They could have used Vin Diesel, Robin Williams, and Al Gore in starring roles and done a lot better.)
The second movie was after all the hype. It was clearly written by gamers. The lines were corny and over the top, i.e., just like you see at the gaming table.
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(They could have used Vin Diesel, Robin Williams, and Al Gore in starring roles and done a lot better.)
Al Gore? NTY. The other two would work fine, though.
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Why don't they actually create a movie based upon a GOOD adventure series or module. How about a Forgotten Realms movie. OMG How about a Drizz't movie, enough people love that I'm surprised they never made it into a movie. I suspect another PoS.Drizz't? I thought you said a GOOD series.
It might have gotten old eventually but the starting Drizzt books are what brought me into fantasy the same way some people got brought in by the Hobbit back in the day. They were fantastic reads and the character was likable to me.
Salvatore has actually stated there may have been talks of a Drizzt movie about his Underdark/origin storyline but didn't comment much past that. He's also stated, since the character is technically controlled by Hasbro, that he either wants to be heavily involved in any movie about Drizzt or not at all, no half way.
I just hope they get a writer that knows gaming to do the script. Joss Whedon, J. Michael Straczynzki, hell even Matt Vancil. I can live with subpar special effects if the writing is good.
Okay, what do you guys think? Would Against the Giants make a good movie? =)
Okay, what do you guys think? Would Against the Giants make a good movie? =)
By the gods, no! Translating RPG adventures into movies (or novels) is almost never successful beyond the core RPGamer audience. I guess that the reason for this might be that participating in a story has other necessities than just reading or viewing it. An adventure is written from the "what entertains the players" view (or should be), a movie or novel aims at a passive audience. Would it be fun watching a RPG group playing? Well, maybe, but for the most part its probably boring or even awkward.
Against the Giants is a series of big, bloody battles fought in dungeons or special settings for the most part - it would be a heavily CGI-action movie. Killing scores of (perhaps lesser) giants does not make for an entertaining movie.
Stefan