Growth Subdomain Gets the Nerfbat


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

Liberty's Edge

...as the title implies. Allow me to say, as both a player in a game where I utilize the Growth Subdomain and a DM in a game where I'm having it used against me, THANK YOU.

Even if the result is a character that is (almost ridiculously) growing and shrinking again round after round, it's still better. It might even offer a player a bit of versitility that they may not have had previously, because, let's face it, committing to being Large for 10 entire rounds is much more of a risk than just choosing to be Large for 1 round.

Kudos on that change. That s#!% was busted as all heck.


Where did you see this news?

(Good news, in my opinion.)


You can find it here 2nd printing is gonna out and some of us got emails about it update PDF's


LOL when I read the title I thought this was about the growth of DNS sub-domains and query scalability.

*sigh* I need a new career. :P


Ah, errata! Anything else at note (aside from cleaning up some language, hope, hope)?

ERRATA: "at note" should read "of note".


The eidolon's rake now counts toward its max number of natural attacks per level for one. I have not got to look over it good yet.


The much-argued-about Selective Spell feat has been changed to require a spell with an instantaneous duration as well as an area.


The change to the rogue talent, 'offensive defense' looks pretty sweet...+1 dodge bonus to AC per sneak die rolled. Hard to pass that one up for the front line rogies.


hwkies wrote:
The change to the rogue talent, 'offensive defense' looks pretty sweet...+1 dodge bonus to AC per sneak die rolled. Hard to pass that one up for the front line rogies.

IRRC circumstance bonuses are one of the few kinds that stack. Is that right?

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Free Hand Fighter ability Singleton now scales.

Several archetypes got their abilities changed to swift actions.

Cloud Step, Spider Step infinite combo smacked down.

Aquaeous Orb can now wash over Large targets.

Rod costs fixed.


Blueluck wrote:
hwkies wrote:
The change to the rogue talent, 'offensive defense' looks pretty sweet...+1 dodge bonus to AC per sneak die rolled. Hard to pass that one up for the front line rogies.
IRRC circumstance bonuses are one of the few kinds that stack. Is that right?

Correct. Circumstance bonuses from different circumstances stack. Along with Dodge bonuses, they're the only typed bonus that stacks.


Zurai wrote:
Blueluck wrote:
hwkies wrote:
The change to the rogue talent, 'offensive defense' looks pretty sweet...+1 dodge bonus to AC per sneak die rolled. Hard to pass that one up for the front line rogies.
IRRC circumstance bonuses are one of the few kinds that stack. Is that right?
Correct. Circumstance bonuses from different circumstances stack. Along with Dodge bonuses, they're the only typed bonus that stacks.

It hasn't happened yet in PF, but in 3.5, you could get 'Racial Bonuses' from templates that stacked with Racial Bonuses from other sources (such as base race, etc).

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