A Pathfinder PC Game and Editing tools...


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I dont have alot of time to write this atm, ill be back later.

Anyway, what about a Game made for PC?
One that has the controls of temple of Elemental evil.
maybe better graphics
Has tools built into it that
A) allow you to connect online with friends
B) create user content using the current product lines
C) allow players and DMs to play together online on a DMs module/world
D) Have tools much like the campaign cartographer for making maps
E) allow ALL content to be printable so that both a Pen and paper game can be running while another person say halfway around the world can be right there and play along.

I know this is ambitious, but quite frankly, if Paizo could pull this off they would literally revelutionize the industry.

with some creidt and such going to me maybe?
=) anyway ill be back on later after work.


Chia_Pet wrote:

I dont have alot of time to write this atm, ill be back later.

Anyway, what about a Game made for PC?
One that has the controls of temple of Elemental evil.
maybe better graphics
Has tools built into it that
A) allow you to connect online with friends
B) create user content using the current product lines
C) allow players and DMs to play together online on a DMs module/world
D) Have tools much like the campaign cartographer for making maps
E) allow ALL content to be printable so that both a Pen and paper game can be running while another person say halfway around the world can be right there and play along.

I know this is ambitious, but quite frankly, if Paizo could pull this off they would literally revelutionize the industry.

with some creidt and such going to me maybe?
=) anyway ill be back on later after work.

That would be AWESOME. I would like it even better if they were re-dos of the old gold box games using the PF ruleset. I still play the gold box games from time to time.


Thats just it, they could add thier own content, official Pathfinder content, allow third parties to do the same, and sell the content just like they do now. they could also add in a pathfinder mmo type game, maybe use it for official santioned characters for events and competitions.

some the content would be game driven like the old games are so that everyone has the same adventure to play. others DMs can control, forexample a player turn drieven game would need a DM to force turns if a player went afk etc.

Dark Archive

Chia_Pet wrote:

I dont have alot of time to write this atm, ill be back later.

Anyway, what about a Game made for PC?
One that has the controls of temple of Elemental evil.
maybe better graphics
Has tools built into it that
A) allow you to connect online with friends
B) create user content using the current product lines
C) allow players and DMs to play together online on a DMs module/world
D) Have tools much like the campaign cartographer for making maps
E) allow ALL content to be printable so that both a Pen and paper game can be running while another person say halfway around the world can be right there and play along.

I know this is ambitious, but quite frankly, if Paizo could pull this off they would literally revelutionize the industry.

with some creidt and such going to me maybe?
=) anyway ill be back on later after work.

Are you referring to something like D20pro? I don't think it's linked with Paizo or anything specifically but you can create your own games on it using certain tools for maps and stuff. I've not used my copy of it yet but I'm going to this winter while I have down time. You should at least check it out. d20pro.com. If you order it, let them know I sent you okay?

Scarab Sages

Chia_Pet wrote:

I don't have a lot of time to write this atm, ill be back later.

Anyway, what about a Game made for PC?
One that has the controls of temple of Elemental evil.
maybe better graphics
Has tools built into it that
A) allow you to connect online with friends
B) create user content using the current product lines
C) allow players and DMs to play together online on a DMs module/world
D) Have tools much like the campaign cartographer for making maps
E) allow ALL content to be printable so that both a Pen and paper game can be running while another person say halfway around the world can be right there and play along.

I know this is ambitious, but quite frankly, if Paizo could pull this off they would literally revolutionize the industry.

with some credit and such going to me maybe?
=) anyway ill be back on later after work.

Sorry to say, there is nothing new under the sun...

*cough* Neverwinter Nights *cough*

With more functionality of course. While what you've proposed would be seriously awesome, it would, by no means, be revolutionary. Rather a fine idea, evolving, absorbing new technologies, becoming what you've envisioned.

Though I do have one disagreement. Including the PDFs would be a bit like giving away the farm. Though, perhaps a PDF of the upcoming "Pathfinder Lite/Starter", might be a good way to get a "gateway" game into the hands of potential pen and paper players.

Grand Lodge

K3nDawg,
you beat me to the punch..

Yea Neverwinter Nights the PC game was very revolutionary and broad sweeping in it's reach. It allowed user content to be developed in an epic way that no other game to this day has been able to rival to say the least. It is an amazing game and even NWN2 was not that bad but compared to NWN it still is not as good :)

If Paizo did something similar I would be impressed and happy.. but it would not be revolutionary though :)


I dream of a game like Temple of Elemental Evil every day, without all the bugs of course, and with a better story!

Do you believe that strategy RPGs are slowly dying? The next Tactic Ogre will be exclusive to the PSP, Bioware is making ''RPG'' shooters now, real-time strategy is over-rated, games like King's Bounty and Grotesque Tactic are not worth playing if you want a game with a good, involving, mature story, etc. Do you see my point now?

I hope I'm wrong and I hope that we'll see a great tactic RPG coming out soon.


k3ndawg wrote:


Sorry to say, there is nothing new under the sun...

*cough* Neverwinter Nights *cough*

BLECH. I would like to see something actually turn-based and not a weird hybrid. If there's going to be a PF game, it needs to actually use the ruleset and not a real-time interpretation of the ruleset.

I would agree that giving the .pdfs away with the game is probably a bad move. I would instead go with a truncated version, like the PRD.


Chia_Pet wrote:

I dont have alot of time to write this atm, ill be back later.

Anyway, what about a Game made for PC?
One that has the controls of temple of Elemental evil.
maybe better graphics
Has tools built into it that
A) allow you to connect online with friends
B) create user content using the current product lines
C) allow players and DMs to play together online on a DMs module/world
D) Have tools much like the campaign cartographer for making maps
E) allow ALL content to be printable so that both a Pen and paper game can be running while another person say halfway around the world can be right there and play along.

I would love to see this happen. I have always been a fan of the D&D based computer games: Baldur’s Gate, Icewind Dale, NWN, and NWN2. I haven't played Temple of Elemental Evil but would like to. I would hate to see those games die out. I would also hate to see those games carried on exclusively by WotC under 4E rules. I like the 3.5 rules and love the PF rules; a game like this would be something I would definitely spend my money on.

It would have to be different than previous games though if it were going to use official PF rules for every aspect, it would probably have to be turn based. Even NWN and NWN2 used its own version of several rules to deal with a free flowing system rather than turn based and to deal with programming limitations. I would love to see this kind of game come out regardless of it being turn based or free flowing. As long as it uses the PF based rules and has a great story. I have had a great time with both types of combat systems in different games.

Being able to print off your character and campaign information from the game and be able to sit down at the table with it, fully compatible with a table top game, would be awesome. That would be rather revolutionary IMO. A party could game through the week with an online aspect and then print of their progress and play a table top game on the weekend together. The DM could then input all the rewards from the table top game into the characters online. But even if they aren't able to produce this level of compatibility, a PF based computer game is something I'd love to see.

Grand Lodge

juanpsantiagoXIV wrote:
k3ndawg wrote:


Sorry to say, there is nothing new under the sun...

*cough* Neverwinter Nights *cough*

BLECH. I would like to see something actually turn-based and not a weird hybrid. If there's going to be a PF game, it needs to actually use the ruleset and not a real-time interpretation of the ruleset.

I would agree that giving the .pdfs away with the game is probably a bad move. I would instead go with a truncated version, like the PRD.

The problem in a fluid game like you are talking about, unless you are talking about a real time strategy type of game, a turn based Pathfinder game simply will not happen. Not and maintain the feel of the game from the table top to a "feel" of the table top "in" game. This is WHY NWN did a hyrbid type of feel because they could not keep the feel of the game and do a turn based game in that way.


Deanoth wrote:
The problem in a fluid game like you are talking about, unless you are talking about a real time strategy type of game, a turn based Pathfinder game simply will not happen. Not and maintain the feel of the game from the table top to a "feel" of the table top "in" game. This is WHY NWN did a hyrbid type of feel because they could not keep the feel of the game and do a turn based game in that way.

I disagree.

The Gold Box games caught the feel of the game, successfully, in a turn based environment 22 years ago starting with Pool of Radiance. If they could do it successfully then, they have no excuse for not doing it now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_radiance

Sovereign Court

Maerimydra wrote:

I dream of a game like Temple of Elemental Evil every day, without all the bugs of course, and with a better story!

+1000

Grand Lodge

juanpsantiagoXIV wrote:
Deanoth wrote:
The problem in a fluid game like you are talking about, unless you are talking about a real time strategy type of game, a turn based Pathfinder game simply will not happen. Not and maintain the feel of the game from the table top to a "feel" of the table top "in" game. This is WHY NWN did a hyrbid type of feel because they could not keep the feel of the game and do a turn based game in that way.

I disagree.

The Gold Box games caught the feel of the game, successfully, in a turn based environment 22 years ago starting with Pool of Radiance. If they could do it successfully then, they have no excuse for not doing it now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_radiance

Unfortunately games have progressed far beyond this and with the way games have progressed to the point they are at now. It is not likely that a game like Baldur's Gate would get the sales it did back then... now.

I loved Baldur's Gate and BG 2 and Torment and Temple of Elemental Evil and even Pool of Radiance. But realistically those games just would not be as good as they were back then in the present.


Deanoth wrote:


But realistically those games just would not be as good as they were back then in the present.

Sure they would. The quality of a game (or book, or movie) does not magically deteriorate over time. If you took a system similar to the gold box games, added Pathfinder core rules in the place of the 2nd edition rules, and placed the plot in Golarion, the game would be fabulous.

Liberty's Edge

I COMPLETELY agree with juanpsantiagoXIV. I, alone, would buy at least 50 copies of the game to give away to people. Just to show them what computer/video games can & should be instead of the mindless "shoot-em- ups" where they give you their pre-made character. I hate those straight-jacket,ZERO creativity pieces of junk.

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