I would argue that the political left has controlled print and TV with the exception of FOX for decades in America. As the media has become more polarized every major TV news outlet in America has become blatantly left leaning to the point of actively campaigning for Obama and the left wing agenda.It doesn't bother me so much that they are so partisan, but it annoys me to no end that they are too lazy to make even a token effort at fact checking.
I will give you the celebs but not the studios of the movie industry (the studios will suck up to whom ever is in government or looks like they will be in government)...
I think US will be further polarised by their politics until somebody truly talented comes along (I don't see anybody left or right with the skills or talent or lack of tarnish waiting in the wings)... sadly the amount of cash and compromise required to become president makes it more difficult for this to happen. You will probably have another decade or two of mediocre to infective government before you get somebody who can change things.
I was talking more about news and opinion outlets.
As far as how partisan our politics are I think things are only going to get uglier. We will be arguing about which candidates kids we hate the most while Rome burns. I'm not sure there is a way to turn it around when the voters just won't demand substance.
As for all the screaming going on from either side of the aisle, it's just a distraction tactic. Like I said, there really isn't a lot of diversity between the two major parties - but as long as they keep screaming at each other and get Democrats screaming at Republicans and vice versa, they'll ensure the rest of you are turned on each other rather than the bozos on the hill.
Exhibit A: Rarely anyone outside of USA can graps differences between Republicans and Democrats without taking studies in American Culture and Politics. As far as I know Republicans have a bit more strickt stance towards the imigration and more against public health service/social scurity. Anything else differs those two parties?
The children of public figures are off limits. Anyone who forgets that should be unilaterally ostracized. Sadly, we're going to go further down that road I guarantee it.
I think it is funny, discussing politics on a web forum where everything is made contentious. These people can argue for hundreds of posts about something like "Charisma affecting appearance"... how could we hope to have any conversation of substance about politics?
But, the extent to which Charisma affects appearance is important. Politics is a joke.
So here go all the differences down the drain ;)
Of course this was stereotype I met and not actual knowledge in the first place.
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I would argue that the political left has controlled print and TV with the exception of FOX for decades in America. As the media has become more polarized every major TV news outlet in America has become blatantly left leaning to the point of actively campaigning for Obama and the left wing agenda.
It doesn't bother me so much that they are so partisan, but it annoys me to no end that they are too lazy to make even a token effort at fact checking.
What bothers me is how people absolutely crucify FOX as being SO BIASED, when they're getting nearly equal (or in some cases, more extreme) bias from outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, etc. MSNBC in particular seems to me to be more of a gathering of liberals in order to hurl hatred and wishes of death at conservatives than a legetimate news source.
Damn I had been doing so good avoiding any threads with LT. Oh well, it was bound to happen eventually.You wrote that post for no other reason than to make a personal attack.
This thread will run much better if everyone avoids making personal attacks.
A personal attack would have had some variation of the phrase "You are" followed by any number of derogatory remarks.
I was simply pointing out that your reputation precedes you.
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Morons exist on both sides of that political line. There are also groomed, nuanced liars on both sides - Fox news is a good example on the Conservative side.
I don't think anyone challenges that there are mere politicians on both sides of the aisle. I('d be interested in an example of an actual lie told by Fox news. Not an error, like failing to vet James Harrison's comment that Rush Limbaigh said we'd all be better off without black people, and not a mistake, like originally calling Florida for the wrong candidate and ahving to take it back. You said lie - like cropping footage of a black man with an AR-15 and using it to run a news story about white conservative bigots and the risk of violence they pose, or about an incumbent president faking his national guard documents two weks before an election, or others.
If you're going to call someone a liar, you ought to be able to provide evidence they told a lie.
Also, I don't think you were personally attacked in the post above. A little snark or an inside joke is not a personal attack.
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Republicans don't, as a party, take a bit more strict stance towards immigration. A politician's stance of immigration doesn't follow political lines. We've got people on both sides of the aisle who are pro- and con- illegal immigration.
Also, Republicans are not against public health service/social security. Many older Republicans, for example, are staunch defenders of social security.
Why would anyone be proillegal immigration? That seems nuts. Not to start a new topic, I just think it's better said that people are pro or con certain types of reforming immigration policy. If you're (royal you) actually for people crossing the border illegally, not apying taxes, stealing peoples' identity and shipping pre=tax cash back across the border, you're nuts.
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I wonder if, because we live in an age where there are 500+ channels and the Internet with thousands of websites to visit, that extremism and outrageous behaviour is a consequence of trying to get the most eye balls to see your sponsors... I would argue that while no, or too little competition is bad, too much is a disaster too. Now everyone is trying their darnedest to get your attention for one reason or another, but we are getting overwhelmed and collectively irritated at all the "noise" on TV and online. In this media climate politics is nothing but an in-your-face schoolyard now.
Unfortunately, I have no answer for this problem.
The negatively is extreme - sarcasm, snark, insults, and worse seem the norm now. I've never voted *for* someone who has the nastiest mouth, who really does? Also, personal attacks in politics does *not* persuade me to vote against the target of those attacks, it persuades me to vote against the source of those attacks.
That said being as a non-American looking from the outside in, Sarah Palin is certainly an amusing distraction for everyone -- she's *in* on this plan too, I'd cynically say. I think she's a clever manipulator, but I question whether she has the ability to represent the USA to the rest of the world without embarrassment. Does she have the class as a personality to fulfill the international role? Maybe with some political grooming she could do it -- she did attain the governorship of a state after all!
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Why would anyone be proillegal immigration? That seems nuts.It does seem nuts, doesn't it? But there are many Republicans who support awarding illegal immigrants for illegally immigrating (e.g. granting them amnesty). What seems even more nuts is awarding behavior you claim to be against.
Don't leave out the Democrats. There are a small few Democrats who are anti-illegal immigration.
I removed some posts. I realize politics are a delicate subject, but it'd be great to remain civil.