Shield of Swings to CMD?


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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/shield-of-swings-combat

The feat explicitly says that the you apply the bonus to CMD. However, it's a shield bonus, and shield bonuses don't apply to CMD. Is it an intentional exception, and increases CMD? Or just an oversight, and doesn't? Or do we use the strictest and (silliest) reading, and say that the feat grants a +4 shield bonus to CMD, but since shield bonuses don't apply to CMD, it doesn't actually increase your CMD? :D


jasin wrote:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/shield-of-swings-combat

The feat explicitly says that the you apply the bonus to CMD. However, it's a shield bonus, and shield bonuses don't apply to CMD. Is it an intentional exception, and increases CMD? Or just an oversight, and doesn't? Or do we use the strictest and (silliest) reading, and say that the feat grants a +4 shield bonus to CMD, but since shield bonuses don't apply to CMD, it doesn't actually increase your CMD? :D

IMO, specific overrides general, so SoS (heh, just noticed the abbreviation, very appropriate) adds to CMD.

By the way, I'm just starting a greatsword-wielding Paladin in Kingmaker, and he's got some AC issues; would anyone who's actually used Shield of Swings at low levels care to comment on whether or not it's worth it?

Sovereign Court

Wow, that is a major reduction in damage.

I am not really an optimizer but in ACW's case to go from 2d6 (7 average)+mods to 1d6 (3.5 average)+1/2 mods would turn me off.

To the OP's question. I would agree that it is probably an intentional exception.

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