I'm not sure where this thread should go, but did any D&D versions have a Tai Chi sword? If so, what were the stats and did it count as a Monk weapon?
Stat-wise, I'd just use the temple sword from the APG.
FLavour-wise, it's not really different from a longsword/short sword.
I'm not sure where this thread should go, but did any D&D versions have a Tai Chi sword? If so, what were the stats and did it count as a Monk weapon?
Tai chi swords are like the Green Destiny from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? Or the Chinese broadswords? I'm banking on the first one.
I would just give them a longsword and call it a tai chi sword. That's really what it is. A Chinese longsword. There is very little statistically to differentiate them.
Tai chi swords are like the Green Destiny from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? Or the Chinese broadswords? I'm banking on the first one.
Yep, the first one.
Stat-wise, I'd just use the temple sword from the APG.
FLavour-wise, it's not really different from a longsword/short sword.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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I'm not sure where this thread should go, but did any D&D versions have a Tai Chi sword? If so, what were the stats and did it count as a Monk weapon?Tai chi swords are like the Green Destiny from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? Or the Chinese broadswords? I'm banking on the first one.
I would just give them a longsword and call it a tai chi sword. That's really what it is. A Chinese longsword. There is very little statistically to differentiate them.
Based on the description the green destiny swords from how fight science described it, I'd probably make it more akin to a rapier. Fight science described it as a flimsy fast sword that was only truly designed for piercing precision strikes. Sounds almost exactly like a rapier.
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Based on the description the green destiny swords from how fight science described it, I'd probably make it more akin to a rapier. Fight science described it as a flimsy fast sword that was only truly designed for piercing precision strikes. Sounds almost exactly like a rapier.I'm not sure where this thread should go, but did any D&D versions have a Tai Chi sword? If so, what were the stats and did it count as a Monk weapon?Tai chi swords are like the Green Destiny from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon? Or the Chinese broadswords? I'm banking on the first one.
I would just give them a longsword and call it a tai chi sword. That's really what it is. A Chinese longsword. There is very little statistically to differentiate them.
Or short swords. Basically it's a light weapon that can be used with weapon finesse.
I'm a fan of the dao, btw. :-P
Jian
17gp
Small 1d6
Medium 1d8
19-20/x2
4 lbs.
Slashing
monk
Jian: A specially balanced longsword with a sleek hilt, sans-cross guard and a similarly styled pommel. The pommel often has a swivel for attaching a ribbon, cord, or horsehair plume, the movements of which emphasize the fuid motions of the blade or are used to distract the opponent. Anyone profcient with a longsword can also use a jian.
From luven lightfingers
Jian
17gp
Small 1d6
Medium 1d8
19-20/x2
4 lbs.
Slashing
monkJian: A specially balanced longsword with a sleek hilt, sans-cross guard and a similarly styled pommel. The pommel often has a swivel for attaching a ribbon, cord, or horsehair plume, the movements of which emphasize the fuid motions of the blade or are used to distract the opponent. Anyone profcient with a longsword can also use a jian.
From luven lightfingers
There we go!
I would almost more model it after the Aldori dueling sword. It has a higher crit multiplier and I believe it can use weapon finesse.
Jian
17gp
Small 1d6
Medium 1d8
19-20/x2
4 lbs.
Slashing
monkJian: A specially balanced longsword with a sleek hilt, sans-cross guard and a similarly styled pommel. The pommel often has a swivel for attaching a ribbon, cord, or horsehair plume, the movements of which emphasize the fuid motions of the blade or are used to distract the opponent. Anyone profcient with a longsword can also use a jian.
From luven lightfingers
You might consider adding:
The Jian + EWP = +2 with feint action
The Jian w/out EWP = as written above.
Also
Straightsword
20 gp
Small 1d4
Medium 1d6
19-20/x2
2 lb.
S or P
Straightsword (Jian): Widely used by practitioners of the martial arts, the straightsword is a light, slender, double-edged weapon, and is considered a sword of renement. The Weapon Finesse feat can be used to apply Dexterity modifiers instead of Strength to attack rolls with a straightsword.
Arms and armor 3.5
The Jian is the type of the "demon-quelling sword" as wielded by Taoist deities like the Queen Mother of the West.
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Jian is the name for the Tai Chi sword. This sword is very difrent from a long sword or a short sword. It is made of a much softer meteal. As well as being thiner and lighter. It can not be thrusted like a raiper. It can be thrusted but if it hits any thing hard it will bend and return to true. It is primarly a slashing weapon. Using wide arcs to build up power to the tip of the blade. And short arcs for deflecting blows. If you where to use it on a hard block like a long sword the blade flexs way to much and you wold be hit.
If I was going to rate it.
Jian 1D6 18/X2 2lb.
Exotic light one handed.
Or
Jian 1D4 18/X2 2lb.
Light one handed.
For this weapon its about striking vital spots not about hiting hard.
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Jian is the name for the Tai Chi sword. This sword is very difrent from a long sword or a short sword. It is made of a much softer meteal. As well as being thiner and lighter. It can not be thrusted like a raiper. It can be thrusted but if it hits any thing hard it will bend and return to true. It is primarly a slashing weapon. Using wide arcs to build up power to the tip of the blade. And short arcs for deflecting blows. If you where to use it on a hard block like a long sword the blade flexs way to much and you wold be hit.
If I was going to rate it.
Jian 1D6 18/X2 2lb.
Exotic light one handed.
Or
Jian 1D4 18/X2 2lb.
Light one handed.For this weapon its about striking vital spots not about hiting hard.
Only if you are using wushu Jain. From Wikipedia
"Today many Chinese martial arts such as taijiquan and their martial artists still train extensively with jian and expertise in its techniques is said by many of them to be the highest physical expression of their kung fu. However, most jian today are flexible tai-chi or wushu jian used mainly for ceremonial purposes and not for actual combat. Famous jian forms include San Cai Jian (三才劍) and Kun Wu Jian (崑吾劍)."
If you go back you will find about as many versions of jain as you would "longswords" for Western cultures since many different swords have been called jain throughout the ages.
Now, I know that this is the horrors of bring actual reality into the game though, so the best bet, is to figure out how you envision it and stat is out accordingly.
BTW, if you want a fun read about what is almost a +1 Jain, check out this wiki link:
Sword Of Gujian
A jain that had been sitting in a water soaked tomb for two thousand odd years that when pulled out had no tarnish and could still easily cut a stack of twenty pieces of paper.
BTW, if you want a fun read about what is almost a +1 Jain, check out this wiki link:
Sword Of Gujian
A jain that had been sitting in a water soaked tomb for two thousand odd years that when pulled out had no tarnish and could still easily cut a stack of...
No that has more to do with the presence of chromium minerals near chinese iron deposits the same way that they find rainbow patina-ed swords with the clay soldiers. The chrome makes them corrosion resistant
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No that has more to do with the presence of chromium minerals near chinese iron deposits the same way that they find rainbow patina-ed swords with the clay soldiers. The chrome makes them corrosion resistantBTW, if you want a fun read about what is almost a +1 Jain, check out this wiki link:
Sword Of Gujian
A jain that had been sitting in a water soaked tomb for two thousand odd years that when pulled out had no tarnish and could still easily cut a stack of...
The sword is made of bronze (they have done chemical test to find out exactly what is all in it, and chromium does not show up.) You must remember, this sword is 100 to 300 years older then the terracotta army.
You are right though, it may just be great metals, but it does make a good example of at least masterwork (and about as close to +1 magical as I have seen).
The sword is made of bronze (they have done chemical test to find out exactly what is all in it, and chromium does not show up.) You must remember, this sword is 100 to 300 years older then the terracotta army.
You are right though, it may just be great metals, but it does make a good example of at least masterwork (and about as close to +1 magical as I have seen).
I could see the bronze for corrosion resistance but to have that level of edge retntion is freaking incredible for sure.
Don´t forget to add stats for the sheath - there's the Dan Jian battle style where you use the sheath for counterbalancing the blade (looks a little bit like fencing with a main gauche) and for parrying
As for style, I´d like to see a weaponized monk centered around it, using perfect strike, vital strike and lunge or spring attack while gaining a shield bonus from the sheath
Oh and I want stats for The Green Destiny