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Since Godzilla's size changes often, typically growing larger than in the previous set of movies whenever there's a relaunch, I do indeed think it's accurate, since this movie is indeed a relaunch.Oh James, they just released this poster.The poster makes it look as though this Godzilla rose up from the depths more than 30 stories high. Do you think it is accurate?That sounds like a Miahchael Bay approach to Godzilla. Every movie has to have bigger and more better explosions than the movie before, except replace explosions with Godzilla.
I wonder if they'll get to a point where Godzilla is so big you can see him from space?
Not really. It's more a result of the fact that over the 60 years they've been making Godzilla movies, the size of city skylines has increased. In order to continue having Godzilla be as tall as the buildings he's attacking, he HAS to increase in size, just as the height of buildings over the past six decades has increased.
Also... I wouldn't put any weight to his size in the movie poster. Sizes in movie posters are the way they are to make an eye-catching poster, not to give accurate representations of relative sizes of the characters in the poster.
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If I saw the Joker in real life, I would certainly cross the street to avoid him.
Greetings, Mr. Jacobs.
I'm creating a campaign in Sarusan. Clearly, much of the information about that locale is deliberately vague, which is why I chose it. Even so, I have a couple of questions that shouldn't be too spoiler-ish:
1) Are there any plans within the next year or so of releasing canonical information regarding Sarusan? Even though it is a GM's prerogative to change things as he/she wishes, I'd hate to go to the work of detailing the place only to have Paizo release an official, and likely vastly superior write-up in the near future.
2) It has been stated in other posts that the "Stolen Map" representation of Golarion is distorted, partly due to the use of a Mercator projection in the map upon which the pilfered map is based. Can you give us a hint how large the continent (it is a continent, right?) is? I've read several references to Australia in discussions regarding Sarusan, so would that be a reasonable model in terms of size?
1) We only generally announce the next 6 months or so of products, and those are public knowledge (but no, none of them have Sarusan elements planned). I'm not going to say if we have plans for it beyond that window.
2) The primary distortions are in the actual size of the continents and the size of the oceans. In truth, the oceans are ALL much bigger, and Casmaron in particular is bigger than depicted. The relative sizes of the continents are about right, so you can be confident that Sarusan is not THAT much larger than Avistan. Comparing it to Australia in size is probably a pretty safe bet.
What are the chances we could get a 3D globe of Golarion made?
So no love for Urgathoa or Zyphus? I see how it is...Will Inner Sea Gods also cover dead Gods such as Aroden and Acavna?No. It might have a bit to say about Aroden, but Acavna's hardly a modern "Inner Sea God" at all. The focus of the book is on living gods.
Wow James, didn't know you were a livingist!
(J/K)
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What about Penny Wise, the Clown......
If I saw the Joker in real life, I would certainly cross the street to avoid him.
Since Pennywise is one of the fundamental reasons I have my fear of clowns, along with the clown from Poltergeist and, more than anything else, common sense... yes. I would cross the street to avoid Pennywise as well. Probably ALL of the streets.
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What are the chances we could get a 3D globe of Golarion made?Greetings, Mr. Jacobs.
I'm creating a campaign in Sarusan. Clearly, much of the information about that locale is deliberately vague, which is why I chose it. Even so, I have a couple of questions that shouldn't be too spoiler-ish:
1) Are there any plans within the next year or so of releasing canonical information regarding Sarusan? Even though it is a GM's prerogative to change things as he/she wishes, I'd hate to go to the work of detailing the place only to have Paizo release an official, and likely vastly superior write-up in the near future.
2) It has been stated in other posts that the "Stolen Map" representation of Golarion is distorted, partly due to the use of a Mercator projection in the map upon which the pilfered map is based. Can you give us a hint how large the continent (it is a continent, right?) is? I've read several references to Australia in discussions regarding Sarusan, so would that be a reasonable model in terms of size?
1) We only generally announce the next 6 months or so of products, and those are public knowledge (but no, none of them have Sarusan elements planned). I'm not going to say if we have plans for it beyond that window.
2) The primary distortions are in the actual size of the continents and the size of the oceans. In truth, the oceans are ALL much bigger, and Casmaron in particular is bigger than depicted. The relative sizes of the continents are about right, so you can be confident that Sarusan is not THAT much larger than Avistan. Comparing it to Australia in size is probably a pretty safe bet.
Chances of us publishing something we have no idea yet how to publish of a map that we're not yet ready to build are in the short term pretty much zero. In the medium term, probably closer to very very very unlikely. In the long term... who can say?
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So no love for Urgathoa or Zyphus? I see how it is...Will Inner Sea Gods also cover dead Gods such as Aroden and Acavna?No. It might have a bit to say about Aroden, but Acavna's hardly a modern "Inner Sea God" at all. The focus of the book is on living gods.
(rolls eyes)
That's correct. We're not talking about any of them. Also, because it's "Inner Sea Gods" we're not talking about any of the female ones. There are no goddesses in this book. Also? The book itself has an increased chance to give you paper cuts, and for every book we don't sell, Paizo will come to your house and burn one of your favorite things and make you eat the ashes.
Either that... or there will indeed be some stuff about Urgathoa and Zyphus in here.
Probably the latter, since Urgathoa's on the cover of the book. Just a guess.
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...come to your house and burn one of your favorite things and make you eat the ashes.
le mot juste
I have a player who is, for some reason, against being Good, even though his actions are like 10 to 1 Good to Bad in my Runelords campaign. I'm looking at the spell casters later in books and thinking about Against Good Spells. Am I silly to worry about what his alignment is?
Do you have any general advice to an aspiring writer who wishes to become the author of fantasy books?
More specifically, do you have any general advice for one suffering of stress, a writer block and a lack of free time?
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So no love for Urgathoa or Zyphus? I see how it is...Will Inner Sea Gods also cover dead Gods such as Aroden and Acavna?No. It might have a bit to say about Aroden, but Acavna's hardly a modern "Inner Sea God" at all. The focus of the book is on living gods.(rolls eyes)
That's correct. We're not talking about any of them. Also, because it's "Inner Sea Gods" we're not talking about any of the female ones. There are no goddesses in this book. Also? The book itself has an increased chance to give you paper cuts, and for every book we don't sell, Paizo will come to your house and burn one of your favorite things and make you eat the ashes.
Either that... or there will indeed be some stuff about Urgathoa and Zyphus in here.
Probably the latter, since Urgathoa's on the cover of the book. Just a guess.
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Hmmm gonna place those odds at 60/40 just to be safe :3
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I have a player who is, for some reason, against being Good, even though his actions are like 10 to 1 Good to Bad in my Runelords campaign. I'm looking at the spell casters later in books and thinking about Against Good Spells. Am I silly to worry about what his alignment is?
For a character whose class isn't tied to an alignment, it's less important to worry about those things... but yeah... a player who doesn't play according to alignment and who doesn't want his alignment to change is just not understanding the way the game works.
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Do you have any general advice to an aspiring writer who wishes to become the author of fantasy books?
More specifically, do you have any general advice for one suffering of stress, a writer block and a lack of free time?
Write every day. And read every day. And immerse yourself in writing culture—hang out with other writers online or in person. Go to conventions to talk to publishers. Even consider self-publication.
I actually struggle with the combination of stress, writer's block, and a lack of free time myself—the first and last of those, I think, have a significant role in causing the middle one. When I'm stressed, I also tend to get hit with insomnia. The best way I know of to handle stress is to immerse myself in a movie or book or video game. And the best way I know to handle a lack of free time is to take a long hard realistic look at what I'm doing and make changes to my life to reduce things I'm doing.
Also, how would Alderpash react to 'Sorshen' if he ran into the PC wearing her clone body?
Do you have any general advice to an aspiring writer who wishes to become the author of fantasy books?
More specifically, do you have any general advice for one suffering of stress, a writer block and a lack of free time?
Write every day. And read every day. And immerse yourself in writing culture—hang out with other writers online or in person. Go to conventions to talk to publishers. Even consider self-publication.
I actually struggle with the combination of stress, writer's block, and a lack of free time myself—the first and last of those, I think, have a significant role in causing the middle one. When I'm stressed, I also tend to get hit with insomnia. The best way I know of to handle stress is to immerse myself in a movie or book or video game. And the best way I know to handle a lack of free time is to take a long hard realistic look at what I'm doing and make changes to my life to reduce things I'm doing.
I've tried to write every day, but sometimes fail to achieve that.
As for hanging out with other writers, do you reccomend any places in addition to these forums?
Wrath of the Righteous question, is it possible to play a CN heretical worshipper of Nocticula in this campaign?
The phrase "as if" is often used within the rules when something acts like something for a specific purpose, but demonstratively isn't the thing it acts like.
Like how a displaced creature benefits from a 50% miss chance as if it had total concealment.
I am unsure if this is always how "as if" is used when parsing a rule.
"As if" could actually be evidence that the thing is in fact what it acts like.
Like how a person who has just seen a ghost might act as if he has seen a ghost.
Do you have any hints on how I should interpret "as if"?
Dear James Jacobs,
Sorry for asking so many questions, but I have two questions about settlements and multiclassing:1) In a settlement's marketplace section, are the minor, medium, and major items all supposed to be worth more gp than the base value, and if so, if the base value is 12,000 gp and the minor items are 4d4, how am I supposed to find a minor item worth more than 12,000 gp? So, for example, let's say I had a large city with a base value of 9,000 gp, and 3d4 minor items, are the 3d4 minor items supposed to all be under the value of 9,000 gp, or are they all supposed to be above the value of 9,000 gp, and if so, how am I going to find a minor item worth more than 9,000 gp?
2.) When you multiclass a new class, do you get maximum hit points, just as if you had made a new character? When you multiclass spellcasters, do you get bonus spells from having a high ability score for both classes? So, for example, if I have a cleric 1/druid 1/wizard 1 and I have a 16 wisdom and 15 intelligence, do I get 6 1st level spells from all the classes together? (plus the domain spells)
Thanks for answering all my questions, I know it's probably annoying for you!
1) Nope; remember that there's only a 75% chance an item of equal or less than the settlement's base value is actually for sale. If that item is specifically listed in the item's items for sale, that rises to 100%. For items above the base value, the ONLY way you can find them for sale in any one city is if the GM deliberately places such an item for sale (either by picking it or choosing one randomly to fill the settlement's available item slots).
2) You only get max hit points at 1st level, not when you multiclass.
And nope! The whole point of this thread is to ask questions! :-)
So then what is the point of the minor, medium, and major items if you can only get items under the base value
1) Would you let spells like Shades, Shadow Conjuration, and Shadow Evocation mimic custom made wizard/sorcerer spells?
2) Would you change what kind of spell like abilities a simulacrum creature has compared to the original?
3) How would you handle players trying to use planar binding for cheaper/free wishes?
4) What is the duration of immediate service on the Gate spell?
5) Would immediate service gated efreeti be under enough control by the caster as to grant the caster un-perverted wishes?
6) In general how would you handle a player who plans to make frequent use of planar binding?
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Wrath of the Righteous question, is it possible to play a CN heretical worshipper of Nocticula in this campaign?
It's certainly possible, but probably not a good idea since demon worshipers, even CN heretical ones, aren't really appropriate for the AP.
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I've tried to write every day, but sometimes fail to achieve that.
As for hanging out with other writers, do you reccomend any places in addition to these forums?
There's not a sure-fire works-for-everyone solution for solving writer's block. If there were, then writer's block wouldn't be a thing. Best anyone can do is try to find something that works for them and spread the word in case it might work for someone else.
If you're not lucky to be in college/school or work in a place where writers are your co-workers... I guess the best bet would be to look around local resources for book clubs or writers' clubs.
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The phrase "as if" is often used within the rules when something acts like something for a specific purpose, but demonstratively isn't the thing it acts like.
Like how a displaced creature benefits from a 50% miss chance as if it had total concealment.
I am unsure if this is always how "as if" is used when parsing a rule.
"As if" could actually be evidence that the thing is in fact what it acts like.
Like how a person who has just seen a ghost might act as if he has seen a ghost.
Do you have any hints on how I should interpret "as if"?
As if it were a construction in a sentence that references a secondary reference that will help you to understand the first reference.
That's not meant to be snarky, by the way—even if it sounds like it is.
It's really nothing more than us saving wordcount. If we didn't say "as if it had total concealment" in the above example, we'd have to reprint ALL of the rules for total concealment.
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So then what is the point of the minor, medium, and major items if you can only get items under the base value
You have a 75% chance to be able to buy ANY ITEM AT ALL if it's under the settlement's base value.
The settlement's minor, medium, and major items are specific individual items that are guaranteed for sale in the settlement until they're bought, at which point they're sold out of that item. The point of the three categories is to allow a better spread of items, with more of them being less powerful than more powerful.
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1) Would you let spells like Shades, Shadow Conjuration, and Shadow Evocation mimic custom made wizard/sorcerer spells?
2) Would you change what kind of spell like abilities a simulacrum creature has compared to the original?
3) How would you handle players trying to use planar binding for cheaper/free wishes?
4) What is the duration of immediate service on the Gate spell?
5) Would immediate service gated efreeti be under enough control by the caster as to grant the caster un-perverted wishes?
6) In general how would you handle a player who plans to make frequent use of planar binding?
1) If the caster of the shadow spell knew about those spells, yes.
2) I might, in some cases, where the spell-like abilities allow the creator of the simulacrum access to spells that he shouldn't yet have access too (such as a djinni's wish).
3) By playing up the fact that the creatures granting those wishes always have their own agendas and making it somewhat risky to use them for those wishes. See the glabrezu chapter of Demons Revisited for more detailed examples.
4) Calling a creature with gate is instantaneous. The creature is there, and then assuming you can secure its cooperation, it takes as long as it takes to perform the service.
5) No.
6) By giving each of the creatures he conjures specific and unique and memorable personalities so that they become recurring NPCs.
So then what is the point of the minor, medium, and major items if you can only get items under the base valueYou have a 75% chance to be able to buy ANY ITEM AT ALL if it's under the settlement's base value.
The settlement's minor, medium, and major items are specific individual items that are guaranteed for sale in the settlement until they're bought, at which point they're sold out of that item. The point of the three categories is to allow a better spread of items, with more of them being less powerful than more powerful.
So, if you have 2d4 minor items that are all specific items that you picked out from the book, could someone also buy an item not specifically picked out if you rolled a 1 -75?
1) Would you let spells like Shades, Shadow Conjuration, and Shadow Evocation mimic custom made wizard/sorcerer spells?
2) Would you change what kind of spell like abilities a simulacrum creature has compared to the original?
3) How would you handle players trying to use planar binding for cheaper/free wishes?
4) What is the duration of immediate service on the Gate spell?
5) Would immediate service gated efreeti be under enough control by the caster as to grant the caster un-perverted wishes?
6) In general how would you handle a player who plans to make frequent use of planar binding?
1) If the caster of the shadow spell knew about those spells, yes.
2) I might, in some cases, where the spell-like abilities allow the creator of the simulacrum access to spells that he shouldn't yet have access too (such as a djinni's wish).
3) By playing up the fact that the creatures granting those wishes always have their own agendas and making it somewhat risky to use them for those wishes. See the glabrezu chapter of Demons Revisited for more detailed examples.
4) Calling a creature with gate is instantaneous. The creature is there, and then assuming you can secure its cooperation, it takes as long as it takes to perform the service.
5) No.
6) By giving each of the creatures he conjures specific and unique and memorable personalities so that they become recurring NPCs.
1) Why the restriction on only custom spells they know? What about customs spells they just know of?
4) Gate talks about being able to control creatures under a certain HD, then goes on to explain how you could secure their service for longer more involved favors. This question comes up, because the 3.5 gate allowed you to call a creature for one round per level as "immediate service". The PF version of the spell seems to make that same distinction, but does not specify how long the not "longer or more involved" service is. I'm confused as to why they specify what creatures you can control if you can't control creatures.
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He'd probably figure the truth out pretty quickly.
I figured he'd probably figure it out unless the PC managed to put on a particularly epic deception. I was mostly wondering if he would hold any special enmity for someone impersonating his old rival.
Also, a curious question: is Alaznist supposed to be weaker than Karzoug? You mentioned in another thread that Karzoug was right in the middle of the power scale for the Runelords, and Sorshen, Xanderghul, and Zutha all appear to have had mythic power, placing them as the top three.
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So, if you have 2d4 minor items that are all specific items that you picked out from the book, could someone also buy an item not specifically picked out if you rolled a 1 -75?So then what is the point of the minor, medium, and major items if you can only get items under the base valueYou have a 75% chance to be able to buy ANY ITEM AT ALL if it's under the settlement's base value.
The settlement's minor, medium, and major items are specific individual items that are guaranteed for sale in the settlement until they're bought, at which point they're sold out of that item. The point of the three categories is to allow a better spread of items, with more of them being less powerful than more powerful.
Yes. Provided the GM didn't intervene and just make a ruling.
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1) Would you let spells like Shades, Shadow Conjuration, and Shadow Evocation mimic custom made wizard/sorcerer spells?
2) Would you change what kind of spell like abilities a simulacrum creature has compared to the original?
3) How would you handle players trying to use planar binding for cheaper/free wishes?
4) What is the duration of immediate service on the Gate spell?
5) Would immediate service gated efreeti be under enough control by the caster as to grant the caster un-perverted wishes?
6) In general how would you handle a player who plans to make frequent use of planar binding?
1) If the caster of the shadow spell knew about those spells, yes.
2) I might, in some cases, where the spell-like abilities allow the creator of the simulacrum access to spells that he shouldn't yet have access too (such as a djinni's wish).
3) By playing up the fact that the creatures granting those wishes always have their own agendas and making it somewhat risky to use them for those wishes. See the glabrezu chapter of Demons Revisited for more detailed examples.
4) Calling a creature with gate is instantaneous. The creature is there, and then assuming you can secure its cooperation, it takes as long as it takes to perform the service.
5) No.
6) By giving each of the creatures he conjures specific and unique and memorable personalities so that they become recurring NPCs.
1) Why the restriction on only custom spells they know? What about customs spells they just know of?
4) Gate talks about being able to control creatures under a certain HD, then goes on to explain how you could secure their service for longer more involved favors. This question comes up, because the 3.5 gate allowed you to call a creature for one round per level as "immediate service". The PF version of the spell seems to make that same distinction, but does not specify how long the not "longer or more involved" service is. I'm confused as to why they specify what creatures you can control if you can't control creatures.
1) Because if you don't know something exists, you can't copy it. Note that I said "knew about the spell" not "knows the spell."
4) I'm confused now too. Might be a good question to ask on the rules forums so it can be FAQed.
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James Jacob, if you could take one evil fey to prom, which one would you take & why?
A rusalka, because she's the prettiest of the evil fey. Also because she could beat up anyone who I wanted to get revenge upon at the prom, since that's a great place to get revenge.
But I would dump her immediately if she forgot the "s" at the end of my last name.
Do you have any hints on how I should interpret "as if"?As if it were a construction in a sentence that references a secondary reference that will help you to understand the first reference.
That's not meant to be snarky, by the way—even if it sounds like it is.
It's really nothing more than us saving wordcount. If we didn't say "as if it had total concealment" in the above example, we'd have to reprint ALL of the rules for total concealment.
So in the rogue archetype Scout it only references flat-footed, the creature doesn't actually become flat-footed.
How far does the reference extend?
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Also, a curious question: is Alaznist supposed to be weaker than Karzoug? You mentioned in another thread that Karzoug was right in the middle of the power scale for the Runelords, and Sorshen, Xanderghul, and Zutha all appear to have had mythic power, placing them as the top three.
Alaznist was and is more powerful than Karzoug. Zutha may or may not have had mythic power himself, but you can be mythic and less powerful than Karzoug at the same time.
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Do you have any hints on how I should interpret "as if"?As if it were a construction in a sentence that references a secondary reference that will help you to understand the first reference.
That's not meant to be snarky, by the way—even if it sounds like it is.
It's really nothing more than us saving wordcount. If we didn't say "as if it had total concealment" in the above example, we'd have to reprint ALL of the rules for total concealment.
So in the rogue archetype Scout it only references flat-footed, the creature doesn't actually become flat-footed.
How far does the reference extend?
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That's a better question for the rules boards. And the FAQ button.
But I'd say it extends all the way, to make the scout better. Partially because I'm playing a scout in Rob's Skull & Shackles game.
How far does the reference extend?Do you have any hints on how I should interpret "as if"?As if it were a construction in a sentence that references a secondary reference that will help you to understand the first reference.That's a better question for the rules boards. And the FAQ button.
But I'd say it extends all the way, to make the scout better. Partially because I'm playing a scout in Rob's Skull & Shackles game.
Ya, I hope that you're right, but I suspect we're wrong.
I'm also playing a Scout. An archer scout.
Do you ever find yourself hoping for a ruling that is different from the one you would make if you were in your GMs shoes?
Alaznist was and is more powerful than Karzoug. Zutha may or may not have had mythic power himself, but you can be mythic and less powerful than Karzoug at the same time.
Ooh, I rather like the implications of this answer, thank you! I hadn't even considered the possibility that Zutha might be weaker than Karzoug, given that the Cenotaph seems to be how Tar-Baphon became mythic.
(I've been mulling over in my head a Varisia-based campaign set in the aftermath of Shattered Star, based on the premise that Magnimar would set out to find the remaining Runelords and try to prevent their return, or at least settle the wilderness and explore ancient ruins so as not to be caught unaware. Alaznist and Sorshen as the final enemies would be fun.)
Alaznist was and is more powerful than Karzoug. Zutha may or may not have had mythic power himself, but you can be mythic and less powerful than Karzoug at the same time.Ooh, I rather like the implications of this answer, thank you! I hadn't even considered the possibility that Zutha might be weaker than Karzoug, given that the Cenotaph seems to be how Tar-Baphon became mythic.
I've often wondered this myself. Assuming Zutha has access to 9th-level spells: minimum level of 17 (CR 16), + 2 for Runelord stat and equipment bonuses, + 2 for Lich template, + 1 for minimum Mythic Tiers (he could have between 1 to 3 thanks to rounding down) = CR 21 which puts him on equal footing with Karzoug.
If Zutha is to be weaker, either he doesn't have access to 9th level spells (which doesn't seem right since he should have 9th Level Necromancy spells), or he doesn't have the +2 for stats and equipment that Karzoug has (though, again, it doesn't seem right to deprive Zutha of Exceptional Stats as both other Runelords to date have gotten this boost).
His +2 for being a Lich is pretty much locked in thanks to his phylactery backstory (and Artifact). And it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that he's Mythic unless parts of Mythic Realms entry about the Cenotaph are either ignored or retconned.
Personally, I'm fine with Zutha being equal to Karzoug.
James Jacobs, any thoughts on this matter? Should Zutha be equal to Karzoug? Or do you see a way to weaken the necromantic Runelord's power?
I've often wondered this myself. Assuming Zutha has access to 9th-level spells: minimum level of 17 (CR 16), + 2 for Runelord stat and equipment bonuses, + 2 for Lich template, + 1 for minimum Mythic Tiers (he could have between 1 to 3 thanks to rounding down) = CR 21 which puts him on equal footing with Karzoug.
If Zutha is to be weaker, either he doesn't have access to 9th level spells (which doesn't seem right since he should have 9th Level Necromancy spells), or he doesn't have the +2 for stats and equipment that Karzoug has (though, again, it doesn't seem right to deprive Zutha of Exceptional Stats as both other Runelords to date have gotten this boost).
His +2 for being a Lich is pretty much locked in thanks to his phylactery backstory (and Artifact). And it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that he's Mythic unless parts of Mythic Realms entry about the Cenotaph are either ignored or retconned.
Personally, I'm fine with Zutha being equal to Karzoug.
James Jacobs, any thoughts on this matter? Should Zutha be equal to Karzoug? Or do you see a way to weaken the necromantic Runelord's power?
Well, I'm not James Jacobs, but since I've been taking a good hard look at the Runelords as part of my interest in this campaign idea, I can definitely say that Zutha would be missing out on an equipment bonus. He's supposed to have only worn a pair of rings and some ioun stones, as opposed to Karzoug having literally three dozen magical items. He also might not have the extensive inherent bonuses to his statistics Karzoug has, especially if he only just barely can cast 9th level spells.
No love for Xanderghul? He was outright the most powerful of them, after all. Although "Sorshen Lives" is still in that little teaser from Part 6 of S*.
Well, the concept isn't for the party to just face off against each and every Runelord, and Alaznist + Sorshen is the combo that makes the most sense for what I want to do. (Cyrusian mostly corresponds to the modern Lands of the Linnorm Kings, not Varisia.) Zutha was eliminated because of how far east the Cenotaph is, and Belimarius and Krune were eliminated for just simply not being mythic enough. Indeed, Belimarius might 'show up' simply by being the only Runelord whose return the party actually manages to prevent.