If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.
If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.
The spell doesn't reference size at all. In fact, it clearly says ANY CREATURE. That, to me, means you can hydraulic push a colossal creature just as easily as a medium creature (provided you beat its colossal CMD). lol. pun.
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If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.The spell doesn't reference size at all. In fact, it clearly says ANY CREATURE. That, to me, means you can hydraulic push a colossal creature just as easily as a medium creature (provided you beat its colossal CMD). lol. pun.
You're right about that.
It also says it knocks over one create in the spell, but that isn't what a bull rush does. If it does leave the target prone in the space to which you've moved them it's pretty nice. I don't think that's the intent here.
If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.The spell doesn't reference size at all. In fact, it clearly says ANY CREATURE. That, to me, means you can hydraulic push a colossal creature just as easily as a medium creature (provided you beat its colossal CMD). lol. pun.You're right about that.
It also says it knocks over one create in the spell, but that isn't what a bull rush does. If it does leave the target prone in the space to which you've moved them it's pretty nice. I don't think that's the intent here.
Sounds like flavor to me. Since flavor doesn't impact mechanics, I don't think they go prone.
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Due to the wording of "one creature or square" I would think that RAI is that it acts as a medium sized creature doing the bull rush (since that would have a size bonus to the CMB of +0)
CMB is normally based off of the following:
CMB = Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + special size modifier
This spell appears to use this but swaps out STR (or DEX if you are tiny or smaller) with your casting stat (INT,WIS, or CHA). Since it does not state that there is any size bonus, it could be read as +0.
After reading up on Bull Rush, I would say that you could attempt to push a colossal size creature around, but it's CMD will make it very hard. After all, to push a tarrasque back you would have to beat it's CMD of 66. A level 20 caster using this would be able to max out @ (20 CL + 20 die roll) 40 without casting stat mod. Say that they have a casting stat of 30, they would still only max out at 50! 16 short of even moving the tarrasque 5'.
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If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.The spell doesn't reference size at all. In fact, it clearly says ANY CREATURE. That, to me, means you can hydraulic push a colossal creature just as easily as a medium creature (provided you beat its colossal CMD). lol. pun.You're right about that.
It also says it knocks over one create in the spell, but that isn't what a bull rush does. If it does leave the target prone in the space to which you've moved them it's pretty nice. I don't think that's the intent here.
Hydraulic Push does not say that it knocks over a creature, it bull rushes them, which would push them back 5' per 5 you beat their CMD.
Hydraulic Push does not say that it knocks over a creature, it bull rushes them, which would push them back 5' per 5 you beat their CMD.If I'm a small sorcerer, am I limited to using Hydraulic Push on medium creatures? It would seem odd if the spell operated differently based on the caster's size, but that would appear to be the case here.The spell doesn't reference size at all. In fact, it clearly says ANY CREATURE. That, to me, means you can hydraulic push a colossal creature just as easily as a medium creature (provided you beat its colossal CMD). lol. pun.You're right about that.
It also says it knocks over one create in the spell, but that isn't what a bull rush does. If it does leave the target prone in the space to which you've moved them it's pretty nice. I don't think that's the intent here.
It says: You call forth a quick blast of water that knocks over and soaks one creature or square.
Hydraulic Torrent specifically says you can bull rush a creature of any size. Hydraulic Push lacks this text. That indicates that it works like a normal Bull Rush performed by the caster, with normal size limitations.
Hydraulic Torrent specifically says you can bull rush a creature of any size. Hydraulic Push lacks this text. That indicates that it works like a normal Bull Rush performed by the caster, with normal size limitations.
Yup. As I noted in the OP, I agree with this interpretation of the RAW, although I don't know that it's intended that small and medium casters should cast different spells.