Life School's Healing Grace -- multiclass benefit?


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I noticed a line in the Wizard's Life School's Healing Grace power that read: "Whenever you cast a spell that has targets, affects creatures in an area, or requires an attack roll, you may heal creatures affected by the spell a total of 1 point of damage per level of the spell.

As it does not specify arcane or divine, does that mean a multi-classed wizard with levels of cleric/ranger/druid can apply that property to any spell they cast, whether arcane or divine?


I have the same question. I have searched around and not found anything specifically about the multi-classing application of this ability. I am considering the Mystic Theurge prestige class. Would Healing Grace apply to all the divine spells cast as well, even healing spells?

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Things are written to be single class only. If something works with a multi class character it should say so.

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Which conflicts with the FAQ on bloodline arcana. Attempts to point out the contradiction resulted in the lead designer of Pathfinder closing the above thread instead of resolving the contradiction. Maybe he'll talking it over with the design team, or maybe not. Don't be surprised if the bloodline arcana FAQ is revised in the near future.

In the meantime, you can't reliably extrapolate anything given an official ruling contradicted by a lead designer forum post--unless you're the GM, in which case you can decide which one makes sense for you, I guess.


What is the life arcane school from?


Hogeyhead wrote:
What is the life arcane school from?

The Advanced Players Guide.

Based on the other thread Healing Grace probably isn't supposed to applied to your non-wizard spells. The FAQ on bloodline arcana contradicts that idea.

I'd allow it if a player asked.


James Risner wrote:

Things are written to be single class only. If something works with a multi class character it should say so.

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blahpers wrote:

Which conflicts with the FAQ on bloodline arcana. Attempts to point out the contradiction resulted in the lead designer of Pathfinder closing the above thread instead of resolving the contradiction. Maybe he'll talking it over with the design team, or maybe not. Don't be surprised if the bloodline arcana FAQ is revised in the near future.

In the meantime, you can't reliably extrapolate anything given an official ruling contradicted by a lead designer forum post--unless you're the GM, in which case you can decide which one makes sense for you, I guess.

I do not think it conflicts. for the following reasons:

The first states, "When you cast a spell from the magus spell list" -- specific instance, the magus spell list is distinct even if another class as the same spell on its list that version isn't on the magus list (basically it's magus spell (magic missile) wizard spell (magic missile)). For example when you cast the magus version of the spell it has a distinct caster level, when you cast the wizard version it also has a distinct caster level based on the wizard levels you have (and whatever items, feats, racial abilities, traits, et al you have). IF you know a spell in one class (say wizard) you can't simply cast it with another class' spells per day (say sorcerer) if you don't have it as a spell in that class even if the spell is on both spell lists. I would offer that this is also why specific classes (the magus, alchemist and witch) specifically state they can learn spells from other classes lists in specific ways.

Whereas the life school ability says, "when you cast a spell that has targets" it doesn't differentiate or state the spell has to come from a specific spell list (as the magus ability does). This matches the language on the sorcerer arcana abilities and would fall in with the regular FAQ.

My only point of argument with the first post is that in my opinion Sean is wrong on the cleric section and should have simply said, "While we are at it we should really clarify that clerics can only switch out spells prepared as a cleric for cure spells or inflict spells. We will probably have to touch on this in the next errata."


If only he had said that. Oh well. In the meantime, we'll have to continue to guess when they obviously meant that the ability was written with one class in mind and when the ability obviously wasn't. For the magus spell slot thing, it was actually pretty straightforward, but the argument SKR made was that any caster ability referring to spells referred only to that class's spells, which is at best a flat contradiction. That happens, and that can be resolved many ways (including "well, that's an exception"), but simply closing the thread and shutting down requests for clarification doesn't help at all. Not that Paizo is under any obligation to resolve the matter, of course, but then what is this forum for?

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