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*facepalm*
Please stop giving these morons press. Just ignore the douchebags. This is exactly what they want, to get some press.
The very definition of irony, pres man telling people to stop giving people press... I likely. You have a very good point, but perhaps there are people out there who need to see them ridiculed. Just letting them blather on without it, gives them some level of credence they really don't need.
The very definition of irony, pres man telling people to stop giving people press... I likely. You have a very good point, but perhaps there are people out there who need to see them ridiculed. Just letting them blather on without it, gives them some level of credence they really don't need.*facepalm*
Please stop giving these morons press. Just ignore the douchebags. This is exactly what they want, to get some press.
Or it makes them look like the loony on the corner with the sandwich sign that says, "Repent, the end of days is here." You don't see a lot of people protesting that guy, and he isn't really given any credence. These people are morons and loonies, treat them as such. Counter-protests are what gives them credence.
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Or it makes them look like the loony on the corner with the sandwich sign that says, "Repent, the end of days is here." You don't see a lot of people protesting that guy, and he isn't really given any credence. These people are morons and loonies, treat them as such. Counter-protests are what gives them credence.
Like I said, you make a good point. I think it could be argued either way.
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A reverse aregument is that, by mocking them (rather than trying to engage with them or ignore them) you rob them of their power - they become something people laugh at!Or it makes them look like the loony on the corner with the sandwich sign that says, "Repent, the end of days is here." You don't see a lot of people protesting that guy, and he isn't really given any credence. These people are morons and loonies, treat them as such. Counter-protests are what gives them credence.Like I said, you make a good point. I think it could be argued either way.
I go stand with the Lone Protester...and hold up a sign:
"I support his right to Protest! Got a Problem with that?"
The Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
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The Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
Stoopid spiellhcecker. ;)
I believe you meant grief.
The Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
Stoopid spiellhcecker. ;)
I believe you meant grief.
*sigh* Yes. Thank you, that reads poorly.
The only people greedy at the death of loved one are adventurers.
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The Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
Stoopid spiellhcecker. ;)
I believe you meant grief.
*sigh* Yes. Thank you, that reads poorly.
The only people greedy at the death of loved one are adventurers.
My nose thanks you for the burn of carbonated cola. Now to get the paper towels to clean off the monitor.
The Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
There is this thing called Free Speech. If the denial of the right to speak is define by offensiveness, then there is no free speech.
As objectionable and ugly the Westboro people are... denying thier right to free speech is a solution that's far far worse than the problem.
+1
Or it makes them look like the loony on the corner with the sandwich sign that says, "Repent, the end of days is here." You don't see a lot of people protesting that guy, and he isn't really given any credence. These people are morons and loonies, treat them as such. Counter-protests are what gives them credence.The very definition of irony, pres man telling people to stop giving people press... I likely. You have a very good point, but perhaps there are people out there who need to see them ridiculed. Just letting them blather on without it, gives them some level of credence they really don't need.*facepalm*
Please stop giving these morons press. Just ignore the douchebags. This is exactly what they want, to get some press.
To be honestly, the counter protest has nothing to do with them being an actual threat, it has everything to do with the LuLz. The counter protest give WBC credence in the same way that annon turning up at liverpool street station and hastling flash mobbers with rick ashley music draws to the dangers of standing still in a public place...
its the "Fire in a Crowded Theater" argument - ie, where does one persons right to free speach impede my right to live without harassment or distress. now, British law, in that situation, is slightly closer to my right not to be bothered than American law, but I am comforted by the fact that a WBC protest would all be arrested within seconds hereThe Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
There is this thing called Free Speech. If the denial of the right to speak is define by offensiveness, then there is no free speech.
As objectionable and ugly the Westboro people are... denying thier right to free speech is a solution that's far far worse than the problem.
Freedom of speech restricted by the fact that it might hurt someones feelings or give offense to someone is not freedom at all.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.-Thomas Jefferson
its the "Fire in a Crowded Theater" argument - ie, where does one persons right to free speach impede my right to live without harassment or distress. now, British law, in that situation, is slightly closer to my right not to be bothered than American law, but I am comforted by the fact that a WBC protest would all be arrested within seconds hereThe Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
There is this thing called Free Speech. If the denial of the right to speak is define by offensiveness, then there is no free speech.
As objectionable and ugly the Westboro people are... denying thier right to free speech is a solution that's far far worse than the problem.
Freedom of speech restricted by the fact that it might hurt someones feelings or give offense to someone is not freedom at all.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.-Thomas Jefferson
True, but given the typical emotional state of people at a funeral, given our nature as humans. I believe an argument could be made that speech with the intent of inciting emotions at an already highly emotional event could be banned within the structure of our overall rights. There is a difference between being confronted on the street and being confronted at a funeral service.
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its the "Fire in a Crowded Theater" argument - ie, where does one persons right to free speach impede my right to live without harassment or distress. now, British law, in that situation, is slightly closer to my right not to be bothered than American law, but I am comforted by the fact that a WBC protest would all be arrested within seconds hereThe Westboro Bapist Church, who interrupt and protest at soldier's funerals, harassing families in their time of greed, aren't just loonies, their a hate machine who's entire purpose is getting attention by doing the most nasty things they can through protest.
A funeral isn't something you should be allowed to picket, no materr your reason.
There is this thing called Free Speech. If the denial of the right to speak is define by offensiveness, then there is no free speech.
As objectionable and ugly the Westboro people are... denying thier right to free speech is a solution that's far far worse than the problem.
Freedom of speech restricted by the fact that it might hurt someones feelings or give offense to someone is not freedom at all.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.-Thomas Jefferson
There is more than one way to hurt people. These people are not hitting people about the head and neck with their poster-boards, but they know what they're saying is hurtful or else they wouldn't be saying it. There is a difference between something being offensive and causing extreme emotional distress. All I know is that, if it was my father, son, or battle buddy's funeral they decided to protest, there would be a lot of seriously injured or dead WBC members by the time I was through with them. And chances are I would only be in jail long enough for the jury to come back with a "temporary insanity" verdict.
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There is more than one way to hurt people. These people are not hitting people about the head and neck with their poster-boards, but they know what they're saying is hurtful or else they wouldn't be saying it. There is a difference between something being offensive and causing extreme emotional distress. All I know is that, if it was my father, son, or battle buddy's funeral they decided to protest, there would be a lot of seriously injured or dead WBC members by the time I was through with them. And chances are I would only be in jail long enough for the jury to come back with a "temporary insanity" verdict.
Alas, this post could be offered as proof of premeditation, taking the Temporary Insanity defense out and effectively allowing the prosecutors to go for 1st Degree Murder instead of a lesser charge.
Or, at least, that's what 20 years of Law & Order have taught me... ;)
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There is more than one way to hurt people. These people are not hitting people about the head and neck with their poster-boards, but they know what they're saying is hurtful or else they wouldn't be saying it. There is a difference between something being offensive and causing extreme emotional distress. All I know is that, if it was my father, son, or battle buddy's funeral they decided to protest, there would be a lot of seriously injured or dead WBC members by the time I was through with them. And chances are I would only be in jail long enough for the jury to come back with a "temporary insanity" verdict.Alas, this post could be offered as proof of premeditation, taking the Temporary Insanity defense out and effectively allowing the prosecutors to go for 1st Degree Murder instead of a lesser charge.
Or, at least, that's what 20 years of Law & Order have taught me... ;)
D'oh! But seriously, I don't know what i'd do in that situation, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be in control of my actions after a very short period of time. I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened yet.
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D'oh! But seriously, I don't know what i'd do in that situation, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be in control of my actions after a very short period of time. I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened yet.
There is more than one way to hurt people. These people are not hitting people about the head and neck with their poster-boards, but they know what they're saying is hurtful or else they wouldn't be saying it. There is a difference between something being offensive and causing extreme emotional distress. All I know is that, if it was my father, son, or battle buddy's funeral they decided to protest, there would be a lot of seriously injured or dead WBC members by the time I was through with them. And chances are I would only be in jail long enough for the jury to come back with a "temporary insanity" verdict.Alas, this post could be offered as proof of premeditation, taking the Temporary Insanity defense out and effectively allowing the prosecutors to go for 1st Degree Murder instead of a lesser charge.
Or, at least, that's what 20 years of Law & Order have taught me... ;)
It's because you've been 'taught' that actions have consequences and that if you take your anger out on someone else, there is a good chance you will be imprisoned afterward. ;)
