
Gotrek22 |

I have a player who wishes to add Adamantium to his Heirloom greatsword. Is this possible within the rules? Could it be enchanted? +1 or Keen or similar? If so or not, can you link me to where this is stated?
Much Thanks
Adventurer
In order for an item to be made of mithral or admantium it needs to crafted with that substance at the start, it cannot be added later. The heirloom weapon can be enchanted as normal as it is a masterworked weapon.
kelly

DeathQuaker RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8 |

This is one of those things where "Ask your GM" is likely the best answer.
But I would say, were I the GM, I would allow a weapon to be reforged with an adamantium alloy -- so that an heirloom weapon would be the same, as long as there is no RAW I am not remembering that says the weapon cannot be altered. (And it looks like the ninjas have remembered otherwise for me)
If you're more concerned about fluff and flavor issues, the ONLY person who can deal with that is your GM.

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I think in general, you cannot change what an item is made of. Materials like mithril and adamantine are not coatings, they are the entire composition. I would draw the line at deconstructing an item and changing it's entire substance. That is called forging a new item.
As to enchanting, that is permitted. The item is a masterwork weapon and can be enchanted as any other masterwork item.

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Without reforging it, the most prevalent material will be the original material, which would be the one in effect. The trait only provides a normal steel weapon.
The only material I think could bypass this would be Alchemical Silver, since it is bonding with the steel. But that too is up to the GM, since it may need to be done at the time of forging.

Slime |

... I would draw the line at deconstructing an item and changing it's entire substance. That is called forging a new item.
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Would you call it forging a new weapon if you "only" change the blade?
I know that traditionnaly for Katanas, Rapiers, Sioux handaxes and African Spears the weapon are usually "the same" after the blade had to be changed for a better (usualy less broken) one.
Kind of like a car where you change the engin. Is it still the same car? I'd say yes.
I would allow it but you'd have to pay at least the same as buying a new weapon (Base + MW + Special Material + extra carefullness to "keep it like it was").

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Shar Tahl wrote:
... I would draw the line at deconstructing an item and changing it's entire substance. That is called forging a new item.
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Would you call it forging a new weapon if you "only" change the blade?
I know that traditionnaly for Katanas, Rapiers, Sioux handaxes and African Spears the weapon are usually "the same" after the blade had to be changed for a better (usualy less broken) one.
Kind of like a car where you change the engin. Is it still the same car? I'd say yes.
I would allow it but you'd have to pay at least the same as buying a new weapon (Base + MW + Special Material + extra carefullness to "keep it like it was").
considering the blade is the main part of the weapon, yes, you are chaning the entire item. Comparing it to a car, that's like changing everything except the base chassis and tires and calling it the same car. That's altering the trait to make it ever more powerful that it alreay is. Now you have weapon focus, free weapon, free proficiency and free upgrades to ANY material you want.

Slime |

so as long as i use the same handle on a katana its the same weapon? i don't think so...
thats like saying you're wearing my boots so that makes you me
From what I understand the katana is considered a combination of the blade, the handle, the guard, the pummel and the "ribon".
Each have a different meaning, are make by different craftmen and make a difference in the details of how the weapon can/should/might be used. Mutch of that also applies to fencing weapons.
The "makes you me" part brought a few funny toughts but I'm not sure I should go that way.;)
But I see your point too. My point is that a DM's call to allow it can be represented by that principle.

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heck just wait til level 3 to buy your heirloom weapon, nothing in the feat that says you have to buy it at first level, level 3 you should have 3 grand in the bank by then
It is a standard masterwork weapon. If you could afford silver or cold iron than fine. The item is purchased at character creation per pathfindersrd.

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Mikado67 wrote:heck just wait til level 3 to buy your heirloom weapon, nothing in the feat that says you have to buy it at first level, level 3 you should have 3 grand in the bank by thenIt is a standard masterwork weapon. If you could afford silver or cold iron than fine. The item is purchased at character creation per pathfindersrd.
Except for the fact that you could at 3rd level take Additional Traits feat and then take the Heirloom weapon had you not already taken it or another equipment trait. per pathfindersrd

OgeXam RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32 |

I would say a wish or miracle spell could be used to convert it from one material to another.
A greatsword is pretty much all metal, so all of it would need to be crafted so if you recrafted it, then it would no longer be the precious family heirloom it was, but a new sword. They would lose the +1 trait bonus.
Those dinks and scratches are what makes it an heirloom. "See this chip right here? That is where my grandpappy struck the killing blow on the red dragon that was rampaging through our town. If it was not for my grandpappy and this sword I would not be here."
Compared to, "Well this is a replia of my grandpappy's sword, made in a different metal though. Heck the guy who made it for me even put in this chip missing right here. That chip was created when my grandpappy using the orignal sword struck the killing blow on a red dragon that was ramapging through our town. If it was not for my grandpappy and a sword that looks like this one I woudl not be here."