Ironwood permanent?


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Are ironwood items permanent? The duration of the spell is making me wonder.

Is it that you make wood into ironwood, and if you can craft it into something (like armor) before the duration runs out your now have a nice, permanent suit of ironwood armor?

Or are you really expected to recreate your armor every couple of days (which, with the crafting times, would be impossible for most)?


Ravingdork wrote:

Are ironwood items permanent? The duration of the spell is making me wonder.

Is it that you make wood into ironwood, and if you can craft it into something (like armor) before the duration runs out your now have a nice, permanent suit of ironwood armor?

Or are you really expected to recreate your armor every couple of days (which, with the crafting times, would be impossible for most)?

The way I interpret it...the wood does not disappear after the duration runs out. It just ceases to become effective armor. All you need to do is recast the spell and it hardens again.

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Ravingdork wrote:

Are ironwood items permanent? The duration of the spell is making me wonder.

Is it that you make wood into ironwood, and if you can craft it into something (like armor) before the duration runs out your now have a nice, permanent suit of ironwood armor?

Or are you really expected to recreate your armor every couple of days (which, with the crafting times, would be impossible for most)?

The wooden object to be made into ironwood by this spell is a focus, not a material component. So, while the spell itself is not permanent (it lasts for 1 day per level), when the spell expires, the wooden object does not. You can simply cast ironwood on it again and you're good for another several days.

For most adventures, a single casting of the spell is probably enough to last to the end of the adventure.


So what happens when the spell runs out / is dispelled / is suppressed by an anti-magic field? The wearer is encased in a suit of armor, it's just currently one of plain old wood. Will it shatter if hit? Provide a lower armor bonus? Alter swim checks because it floats?


Or just build your items out of an ironwood tree. I have those growing in my camoaign world.

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Elghinn Lightbringer wrote:
Or just build your items out of an ironwood tree. I have those growing in my camoaign world.

Those would SUCK to harvest! Your lumberjacks must be RICH, wielding adamantite axes and all.


Never said it was easy or economical. Of course shape wood or shape metal would work too.

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Elghinn Lightbringer wrote:
Never said it was easy or economical. Of course shape wood or shape metal would work too.

I guess so, but wouldn't the tree get a saving throw as a living thing? Idk, this touches on weird subjects and gives me the whillies thinking about it.

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Themetricsystem wrote:
Elghinn Lightbringer wrote:
Or just build your items out of an ironwood tree. I have those growing in my camoaign world.
Those would SUCK to harvest! Your lumberjacks must be RICH, wielding adamantite axes and all.

Real world ironwood is worked while it's green and then allowed to dry in its final form.

It's nice stuff.

If you want to work it dried, woodshape and fabricate would work.


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:

Real world ironwood is worked while it's green and then allowed to dry in its final form.

It's nice stuff.

If you want to work it dried, woodshape and fabricate would work.

Exactly. +10

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Themetricsystem wrote:
Elghinn Lightbringer wrote:
Never said it was easy or economical. Of course shape wood or shape metal would work too.
I guess so, but wouldn't the tree get a saving throw as a living thing? Idk, this touches on weird subjects and gives me the whillies thinking about it.

Look at the verbiage on Fabricate. Example is making a bridge out of a stand of trees. Living trees, obviously, and no saving throw.


Ironwood permanent?

Thats what she said. ;P


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:


Look at the verbiage on Fabricate. Example is making a bridge out of a stand of trees. Living trees, obviously, and no saving throw.

Where did you find the above vebiage? This would help to solve a conversation on elven building techniques.

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