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Liberty's Edge

Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.

And those are stretches at that even. Esp since Augment summoning doesn't help your Eidolon.

Liberty's Edge

0gre wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
I'm rather fond of PBS/ Precise/ Rapid Shot/ Deadly Aim for summoners.

Psh, and my Summoner gets criticized by his party when he uses his bow :P


QOShea wrote:
Razz wrote:

You live in STL? Same here! What shop is this? I live in South STL, we can't find any real good hobby shops in the area. There's Gamer's Nite in South County Mall, but they're all mostly high schoolers playing way too much MtG (is that ever going to die?)

If it's Fantasy Shop, aren't they all the way in St. Charles? I wish they had a shop right in STL, near downtown or something. The drive there is too insane for me.

The one in South County is at 10560 Baptist Church Road, St. Louis, MO 63128. (314) 842-8228.

Their website is http://www.fantasyshoponline.com/

I've been to that one. But unfortunately, it's not a place to look for a community of gamers. I didn't see (nor do I think was there room for) a gaming table and a host of gamers there playing a variety of whatever.

Unless something changed about it, of course, maybe they have the space now?

Shadow Lodge

Austin Morgan wrote:
0gre wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
I'm rather fond of PBS/ Precise/ Rapid Shot/ Deadly Aim for summoners.
Psh, and my Summoner gets criticized by his party when he uses his bow :P

Umm... why? I guess if you don't have proficiency *shrug*. My wife uses javalins.

Shadow Lodge

Shapeshifter Ranger and Invunerable Rager Babarian...

I know what I'm doing at my first GenCon.. getting this book!

Liberty's Edge

0gre wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:
0gre wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
I'm rather fond of PBS/ Precise/ Rapid Shot/ Deadly Aim for summoners.
Psh, and my Summoner gets criticized by his party when he uses his bow :P
Umm... why? I guess if you don't have proficiency *shrug*. My wife uses javalins.

Nah, I took a level of Fighter, so I can use it. Pretty much, "I shouldn't be attacking, I should be Summoning things" is the line I get a lot :(

Oh well :P


Razz wrote:


I've been to that one. But unfortunately, it's not a place to look for a community of gamers. I didn't see (nor do I think was there room for) a gaming table and a host of gamers there playing a variety of whatever.

Unless something changed about it, of course, maybe they have the space now?

No they don't have the space. They tried to get the empty space on the end. It used to be a blockbuster, but the landlord denied them because they had someone looking at it. If you want a community of gamers then the saint charles location is it. Game night runs 4e but not pathfinder. Plus its mostly teenagers. Not that I'm that old I'm only 24 but still.

I am now done derailing this thread...

Sorry :D


I'm tuned in, but there's still no preview #4 :(


Themetricsystem wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
And those are stretches at that even. Esp since Augment summoning doesn't help your Eidolon.

Why doesn't it help your Eidolon? Your eidolon is specifically called out as being a summoned creature, is it not?

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
meatrace wrote:
Themetricsystem wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
And those are stretches at that even. Esp since Augment summoning doesn't help your Eidolon.
Why doesn't it help your Eidolon? Your eidolon is specifically called out as being a summoned creature, is it not?

There was a specific ruling saying that Augment does not apply. either in the class update, or in one of Jason's posts on the playtest I think

Shadow Lodge

Austin Morgan wrote:
Nah, I took a level of Fighter, so I can use it. Pretty much, "I shouldn't be attacking, I should be Summoning things" is the line I get a lot :(

Weak. With just a bit of work optimizing the summoner is just as effective in combat as most summoned creatures. You throw down some basic buffs if they are needed then you bust out the bow and put some holes in things. After the APG is out and you can't do the Summon SLA it's going to be even more important that you find productive use of your time. Summoners don't have enough spells and they get offensive spells too slowly to sit around casting all the time.

Liberty's Edge

meatrace wrote:
Themetricsystem wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:

Oooooo I just remembered that the APG will have feats for the Summoner :D

I'm doubly excited now :D

Yeah, finding good feats for me and my eidolon is rather limited to Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning.
And those are stretches at that even. Esp since Augment summoning doesn't help your Eidolon.
Why doesn't it help your Eidolon? Your eidolon is specifically called out as being a summoned creature, is it not?

"Augment Summoning : Each creature you conjure with any summon spell gains a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and Constitution for the duration of the spell that summoned it."

Since you do not use a spell to summon your Eidolon, Augment Summoning does not apply. Same with the SLA.

Augment summoning only works with the Summon Monster spells on the Summoner's spell-list.

Liberty's Edge

0gre wrote:
Austin Morgan wrote:
Nah, I took a level of Fighter, so I can use it. Pretty much, "I shouldn't be attacking, I should be Summoning things" is the line I get a lot :(
Weak. With just a bit of work optimizing the summoner is just as effective in combat as most summoned creatures. You throw down some basic buffs if they are needed then you bust out the bow and put some holes in things. After the APG is out and you can't do the Summon SLA it's going to be even more important that you find productive use of your time. Summoners don't have enough spells and they get offensive spells too slowly to sit around casting all the time.

+1. No matter what your character is, no matter how weak his combat abilities, you should always play an active part in combat (even if it is only using the Aid Another action). Do this for several fights and then stop doing it. The other players should soon discern that they are overall less effective when your character is not helping.


Variant archetypes are SO last week . . . where's #4!!!. Alright I realize, being ten hours ahead of the folks in Washington, that my perspective may be a little bit skewed. But IIRC they had the preview up by this time last week.


GIVE PREVIEW ... NOW ... BULL-MAN !

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
AlQahir wrote:
Variant archetypes are SO last week . . . where's #4!!!. Alright I realize, being ten hours ahead of the folks in Washington, that my perspective may be a little bit skewed. But IIRC they had the preview up by this time last week.

Normally it goes up at exactly midnight on the pacific, which makes me think it's automatic. If the preview wasn't ready in the system for upload, we're probably looking at when they get to work tomorrow.

Grand Lodge

I think they sold out the entire print run based on Preview #3, and no longer need to take up valuable beer time with creating new previews.

;)


KaeYoss wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:

Get a decent dictionary, then.

souerrtitious: covertly having a low opinion of something. Portmanteau of sourpuss ans surreptitious.

DICTIONARY.COM knows all! And it says that, that word does not exist!

:P

dictionary.com is so riddled with holes it should be classified as a hazard!

If you look for the common term Mary Sue, it tells you that it's the mother of Jesus taking someone to court. You just can't take that site seriously.

By the way: This is what a proper dictionary says about this!

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