
The Thing from Beyond the Edge |

It depends. Someone new came on and basically said that all religion was crap because of "moral absolutism" (or some such). Hard to figure out because he came out of the chute hot and strong and wasn't really talking about anything specific. Clarifications have pretty well been useless. I'm trying to get a different take on what people feel is "moral" and where it becomes more "moral" to force it on others. Something that a lot of people kind of bring up but don't really address -- at least not clearly.
I have to disagree with you on a small point here, Moff.
I don't think it is hard to figure out at all. :) The new poster entered the discussion without intending to discuss anything but rather with the intention of telling everyone how wrong they were.
A "dictator" rather than a "learner".
Carry on.

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Moff Rimmer wrote:
It depends. Someone new came on and basically said that all religion was crap because of "moral absolutism" (or some such). Hard to figure out because he came out of the chute hot and strong and wasn't really talking about anything specific. Clarifications have pretty well been useless. I'm trying to get a different take on what people feel is "moral" and where it becomes more "moral" to force it on others. Something that a lot of people kind of bring up but don't really address -- at least not clearly.I have to disagree with you on a small point here, Moff.
I don't think it is hard to figure out at all. :) The new poster entered the discussion without intending to discuss anything but rather with the intention of telling everyone how wrong they were.
A "dictator" rather than a "learner".
Carry on.
Yeah. Thanks. I thought I'd try to get him to learn what a "conversation" or "discussion" actually looked like. You'd think I'd learn.

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Moff Rimmer wrote:The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:Here you go.Moff Rimmer wrote:The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:You haven't been hanging out in the Civil Religious Discussion for quite a while. You've been missed.Moff Rimmer wrote:I really wasn't that bad today. It's amazing how one poster can really set things off...Whoah... what the f#!* did I miss? Where the f#!* did I miss?I kind of miss it too. Dirk Gently says he's going to be back on the boards starting soon (after a two-year hiatus), so we could probably start tag-teaming it again.
Where in the CRD is the conversation? I'd like to take a read.
I think I misunderstood what you asked...
It depends. Someone new came on and basically said that all religion was crap because of "moral absolutism" (or some such). Hard to figure out because he came out of the chute hot and strong and wasn't really talking about anything specific. Clarifications have pretty well been useless. I'm trying to get a different take on what people feel is "moral" and where it becomes more "moral" to force it on others. Something that a lot of people kind of bring up but don't really address -- at least not clearly.
Yeah, and that's why I haven't even poked my head in that thread in forever. It's just not worth it.

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I swear to all that's holy, I can't even watch crime dramas anymore. I don't know if it was because I grew up addicted to Encyclopedia Brown, then The Hardy Boys, then Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie; but I figure EVERYTHING out before the shows from the slightest hint of a clue.
Either that or the writers are extremely lazy anymore.

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Crimson Jester wrote:Moff Rimmer wrote:Sock puppet??Crimson Jester wrote:I have been making will saves.Good for you. He's not worth it. I don't think he's read a response he's been given.I will not respond to him again. His last response to me really showed me how much an @$$ he truly is. His comment about how nothing in the Bible should need to be taken in context really got to me. I could be an @$$ back, but it would devolve into a shouting match. He's out to "prove" that Christians are morons.
Grrr.
I really wasn't that bad today. It's amazing how one poster can really set things off...
Like I said sorry, but I won't be posting in there for awhile, I told him to use some tact and he ignored me and said tact was a violation of his freedom of speech.

Sharoth |

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!
I swear to all that's holy, I can't even watch crime dramas anymore. I don't know if it was because I grew up addicted to Encyclopedia Brown, then The Hardy Boys, then Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie; but I figure EVERYTHING out before the shows from the slightest hint of a clue.
Either that or the writers are extremely lazy anymore.
~laughter~ Oh, the writers are lazy and most of the people who watch it do not want to think.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!
I swear to all that's holy, I can't even watch crime dramas anymore. I don't know if it was because I grew up addicted to Encyclopedia Brown, then The Hardy Boys, then Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie; but I figure EVERYTHING out before the shows from the slightest hint of a clue.
Either that or the writers are extremely lazy anymore.
Lazy writers, which is why when something is even halfway unique people love it, even if it is crap.

Sharoth |

Wow! Encyclopedia Brown is still being sold! I wonder if you can still get the Great Brain books.
Edit - Yep! You can still get them.
Edit II - And the Three Investigators as well.

Urizen |

Urizen wrote:Casting stones, Uri?Justin Franklin wrote:This is my 325th post. That doesn't seem nearly as good.Some would say it's the quality and not the quantity that matters. Unless you're a warwoolf.
Sour skittles, actually.
But I fully confess that anything I scribe holds no meritorious content whatsoever.

Urizen |

Urizen wrote:Don't sigh Urizen I'm buying 2 cases of it. So all will be well. Likely 3 if my buddy has his way.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Hey AZ, New minis set gallery*wistfully sighs*
Reach around or three way? What way are you speaking of? All of this for minis? Good god gravy, man!

Urizen |

Treppa wrote:No but I'm willing to post pics of me greedily enjoying them all to myself and then tag you as your most desired mini. Urizen knows I'll do that much.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:So you're saying you will be sharing them with us all?! Good man!Urizen wrote:Don't sigh Urizen I'm buying 2 cases of it. So all will be well.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Hey AZ, New minis set gallery*wistfully sighs*
Harlot.

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Since I appear to be not the only one still up how is everyone?
I'm great, I just got back from a really fun game session where we killed a bunch of goblins in the bad part of town. We were also solicitied by a prostitute, and despite protests <line deleted> and that's how we ended up with a bunch of whetstones.

Urizen |

I am sorry to hear others are having an "off" day as well. Though, at the same time, I am kind of happy to hear it is not just me. :) And hugs are always nice.
I had thought it might be the weather, as we have been experiencing somewhat warm days with gloriously cool nights. While I love the cooler temperatures, the fluctuation always seems to throw me off.
And all this talk of crackers has awakened a craving for some clam chowder. I think I might go fix myself some delicious soup.
After experiencing it first hand in Boston back in July '07, I can no longer eat any of it here in Ohio. Other than assuming it's a fresh catch of the day, the chowdah here doesn't come close to compare.

Urizen |

Sharoth wrote:Huh. That one will probably go on my list of books to read in the near future. Thanks.The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:Sharoth wrote:What is the book about? Sounds interesting."The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer mind parents. And it is evident the end of the world is approaching fast"
(Syrian Tablet, 2800 BC)
The Invisible Future
Peter J. Denning, Editor.
p. 12~groans~ I do not remember. I know that I liked it enough to pull that quote and read it a second time. HOWEVER, you are talking about something that I read over 15 years ago. My suggestion is to see if the local library can do an inter-library loan to get it for you.
Ditto. Tossed that onto my wish list as well.

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Crimson Jester wrote:Since I appear to be not the only one still up how is everyone?I'm great, I just got back from a really fun game session where we killed a bunch of goblins in the bad part of town. We were also solicitied by a prostitute, and despite protests <line deleted> and that's how we ended up with a bunch of whetstones.
Sounds..................gross. But fun!

Twin Agitate Dragons |

Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Wait seriously? Urizen didn't pick up on this gem? What is the world coming too?Treppa wrote:No but I'm willing to post pics of me greedily enjoying them all to myself and then tag you as your most desired mini. Urizen knows I'll do that much.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:So you're saying you will be sharing them with us all?! Good man!Urizen wrote:Don't sigh Urizen I'm buying 2 cases of it. So all will be well.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Hey AZ, New minis set gallery*wistfully sighs*
Yeah, the nerve of that guy.

Urizen |

Celestial Healer wrote:I do...but soap opera tawdry is like....Uri light. :)Solnes wrote:I thought we liked tawdry on this thread.Celestial Healer wrote:Hi all. What did I miss?Someone will be along shortly to update you on teh weekly soaps. I don't watch them, I find them tawdry and predictable. :P
You know how to flatter a guy. But in your case, I'll settle for smothering. It'll be worth it. :p

Urizen |

Ashe Ravenheart wrote:I must admit, due to my luddite ways, I originally loathed the idea of netflix. Now that the wife has gotten me hooked on the Tudors, I have to say I love it. Netflix forever, Blockbuster(Gulp!) never! Especially since they closed down the one near my house. I really need to set Blockbuster straight.Aberzombie wrote:I might actually try Netflix, especially since seeing that commercial that it's available through the Wii.Highly worth it. $9 a month, you get 1 DVD delivered and unlimited watching on your PC or Game Consule. Add in the fact that they have a LOT of TV shows up for instant viewing and it beats the cost of buying/renting anywhere else.
Are there any other luddite traditions crumbling at a forum near us?

Urizen |

Ashe Ravenheart wrote:Sure man. Want hot asian chicks? Stop by the bubble tea place. They'll set you straight.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:Tea! I miss the tea places in NY. But they make me sad when they serve bubble tea. The only good thing about bubble tea is that it seems to magically attract a bunch of giggly Asian chicks.
Trying to wake up. Must make coffee soon so I can put together a quiz for the students.
Ree-hee-hee-hee-ally?
scribbles notes furiously in little book
He'll be pitching a tent in the middle of the urban jungle.

Urizen |

Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Thats I've given up on that thread. I tried to make people think about others but it's completely infested with trolls Moff, CJ, I;m sorry but it's a lost cause.Humanism isn't easy, it's not about proving god's not there. It's about providing a reason to be good if he's not. Welcome to the club.
We need a reason? Does Pascal make wagers?

lynora |

Darn it. I lost my dot and my little x new :(
I have no idea what I've missed and no time to go back and figure it out. So if I missed anything important, I apologize.
Between going back to school and promptly coming down with the flu I've been a bit swamped.
Hope you've all been doing better than that.

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Darn it. I lost my dot and my little x new :(
I have no idea what I've missed and no time to go back and figure it out. So if I missed anything important, I apologize.
Between going back to school and promptly coming down with the flu I've been a bit swamped.
Hope you've all been doing better than that.
You're up late.

Urizen |

Crimson Jester wrote:Moff Rimmer wrote:Sock puppet??Crimson Jester wrote:I have been making will saves.Good for you. He's not worth it. I don't think he's read a response he's been given.I will not respond to him again. His last response to me really showed me how much an @$$ he truly is. His comment about how nothing in the Bible should need to be taken in context really got to me. I could be an @$$ back, but it would devolve into a shouting match. He's out to "prove" that Christians are morons.
Grrr.
I really wasn't that bad today. It's amazing how one poster can really set things off...
Shame we can't have a separate forum without the riff and the raff. I've been cracking through the Old Testament and I've come to the opinion that...

Urizen |

Darn it. I lost my dot and my little x new :(
I have no idea what I've missed and no time to go back and figure it out. So if I missed anything important, I apologize.
Between going back to school and promptly coming down with the flu I've been a bit swamped.
Hope you've all been doing better than that.
I was last here on Saturday and I lost my dots, my new posts -- everything -- on Paizo. Completely. I was. not. amused.

Sharoth |

Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.

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Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.
Oh man, Assassin's Creed is amazing. And the second one is even better.
Really looking forward to Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.Oh man, Assassin's Creed is amazing. And the second one is even better.
Really looking forward to Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
~grins~ Well, I do not have a PSP, so that is out for now. OTOH, I do have a Nintendo DS. I am thinking about eventually picking up Assassin's Creed - Altair's Chronicles.

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Wolfthulhu wrote:~grins~ Well, I do not have a PSP, so that is out for now. OTOH, I do have a Nintendo DS. I am thinking about eventually picking up Assassin's Creed - Altair's Chronicles.Sharoth wrote:Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.Oh man, Assassin's Creed is amazing. And the second one is even better.
Really looking forward to Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
Nope. Brotherhood is the new console/PC game. Due out mid-November.

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:Nope. Brotherhood is the new console/PC game. Due out mid-November.Wolfthulhu wrote:~grins~ Well, I do not have a PSP, so that is out for now. OTOH, I do have a Nintendo DS. I am thinking about eventually picking up Assassin's Creed - Altair's Chronicles.Sharoth wrote:Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.Oh man, Assassin's Creed is amazing. And the second one is even better.
Really looking forward to Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
~shrugs~ I will pick it up eventually, if only to add it to my collection. The article said that the storyline will only be about 15 hours long. In that case, I would have to wait until the price wend down. Way down. Besides, I will probably still be playing Fallout - New Vegas or Fable III.
Edit - Or one of the other games that I have in my collection that I have barely touched.

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Moff Rimmer wrote:Crimson Jester wrote:Moff Rimmer wrote:Sock puppet??Crimson Jester wrote:I have been making will saves.Good for you. He's not worth it. I don't think he's read a response he's been given.I will not respond to him again. His last response to me really showed me how much an @$$ he truly is. His comment about how nothing in the Bible should need to be taken in context really got to me. I could be an @$$ back, but it would devolve into a shouting match. He's out to "prove" that Christians are morons.
Grrr.
I really wasn't that bad today. It's amazing how one poster can really set things off...
Shame we can't have a separate forum without the riff and the raff. I've been cracking through the Old Testament and I've come to the opinion that...
** spoiler omitted **
Once again you have left me speechless.

Woodraven |

Right now I am playing Assassin's Creed on my X-Box 360. I must say that so far (20 minutes played) it seems awesome.
it's good, but a bit repetative

Freehold DM |

The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:Yeah. Thanks. I thought I'd try to get him to learn what a "conversation" or "discussion" actually looked like. You'd think I'd learn.Moff Rimmer wrote:
It depends. Someone new came on and basically said that all religion was crap because of "moral absolutism" (or some such). Hard to figure out because he came out of the chute hot and strong and wasn't really talking about anything specific. Clarifications have pretty well been useless. I'm trying to get a different take on what people feel is "moral" and where it becomes more "moral" to force it on others. Something that a lot of people kind of bring up but don't really address -- at least not clearly.I have to disagree with you on a small point here, Moff.
I don't think it is hard to figure out at all. :) The new poster entered the discussion without intending to discuss anything but rather with the intention of telling everyone how wrong they were.
A "dictator" rather than a "learner".
Carry on.
You can't get blood from a stone, man! He's not there to debate, he's there because he's pissed at organized religon for some past wrong. The thing is, I can see where he's coming from, and I've heard his points argued(albeit more courteously) before- some of it can be quite fascinating. But like I said, he's not there to debate. What keeps me sane with such posters in such topics is the old saying about the broken, stopped clock. A stopped one is right twice a day, and as since it can't be repaired, you should leave it alone. Because if you try to fix it, due to its irreprable nature, it will be wrong all the time and you'll be frustrated. Or something like that. I think it's a rhyme in another language, I have to look it up sometime.

Freehold DM |

Ashe Ravenheart wrote:~laughter~ Oh, the writers are lazy and most of the people who watch it do not want to think.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHH!
I swear to all that's holy, I can't even watch crime dramas anymore. I don't know if it was because I grew up addicted to Encyclopedia Brown, then The Hardy Boys, then Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie; but I figure EVERYTHING out before the shows from the slightest hint of a clue.
Either that or the writers are extremely lazy anymore.
I don't know about this one...Such writings have spoiled an entire genre/generation of readers by having them constantly wonder ahead or search for spoilers or conditioning them to look for errors. Particularly the Hardy Boys(I preferred Nancy Drew for some reason). Most things are written in a way that follow a natural, logical progression, it's not necessarily laziness, stupidity or intelligence. Sometimes you've just seen it all before and just know what's coming before it arrives. It is equal parts burden and joy.
[EDIT]Naked ruminating for TOP...