Nasty Pajamas |
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because she is his daughter doesn't mean she has the same politics.
It made CBS News at 11.
She asked:
"Why do, basically, people with money have good health care, and why do people that live on lower salaries not have good health care?" Bush asked in an interview that aired yesterday on Fox News Sunday. "Health should be a right for everyone."
Answer: Money
Bitter Thorn |
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because she is his daughter doesn't mean she has the same politics.
It made CBS News at 11.
She asked:
"Why do, basically, people with money have good health care, and why do people that live on lower salaries not have good health care?" Bush asked in an interview that aired yesterday on Fox News Sunday. "Health should be a right for everyone."Answer: Money
Why am I not surprised that she isn't very bright?
bugleyman |
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Nasty Pajamas wrote:Why am I not surprised that she isn't very bright?Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because she is his daughter doesn't mean she has the same politics.
It made CBS News at 11.
She asked:
"Why do, basically, people with money have good health care, and why do people that live on lower salaries not have good health care?" Bush asked in an interview that aired yesterday on Fox News Sunday. "Health should be a right for everyone."Answer: Money
It's tempting to reduce those who believe differently than you do to caricatures. I get it. Hell, I've done on numerous occasions to members of the very same family.
But she obviously wasn't saying she didn't understand the practical reason why things are as they are, but rather:Is the current situation just? Which to me is a very reasonable question. But then again, perhaps I'm just "not very bright."
Jeremy Mcgillan |
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Bitter Thorn |
Bitter Thorn wrote:Nasty Pajamas wrote:Why am I not surprised that she isn't very bright?Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because she is his daughter doesn't mean she has the same politics.
It made CBS News at 11.
She asked:
"Why do, basically, people with money have good health care, and why do people that live on lower salaries not have good health care?" Bush asked in an interview that aired yesterday on Fox News Sunday. "Health should be a right for everyone."Answer: Money
It's tempting to reduce those who believe differently than you do to caricatures. I get it. Hell, I've done on numerous occasions to members of the very same family.
But she obviously wasn't saying she didn't understand the practical reason why things are as they are, but rather:Is the current situation just? Which to me is a very reasonable question. But then again, perhaps I'm just "not very bright."
I don't think I label everyone who holds positions that are different than mine as not very bright. My specific political position (minarcist) is part of a very small minority these days, so that would imply I hold the vast majority of people in rather low esteem for having positions divergent from my own. I don't have a very good impression of most of humanity, but I don't think that's a direct result of their politics.
That said, I know I struggle at times with really understanding other folks positions and not reducing them to caricature in my head.
Assuming her question is entirely rhetorical it still strikes me as just plain dumb. It's simply not thought out to its logical conclusion.
I also think, like most people, she has little idea of what Obama Care will actually do, and I'm doubtless influenced by my distaste for her family.
Orthos |
Bitter Thorn wrote:Hot > dumb
Assuming her question is entirely rhetorical it still strikes me as just plain dumb.
Well, that does make things simpler. I couldn't stand a dumb girl even if she is awesomely beautiful; I need some brains behind the looks. You can have her. :P
I don't have a very good impression of most of humanity, but I don't think that's a direct result of their politics.
+1 and as many more as you can carry.
Bitter Thorn |
snobi wrote:Well, that does make things simpler. I couldn't stand a dumb girl even if she is awesomely beautiful; I need some brains behind the looks. You can have her. :PBitter Thorn wrote:Hot > dumb
Assuming her question is entirely rhetorical it still strikes me as just plain dumb.
+1
I don't think a lack of intellect is a speed bump I can get past either.
Steven Tindall |
Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.
Jeremy Mcgillan |
Prince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :P
Avatar of John Wayne |
Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Don't forget me, pilgrim. Everybody loved me.
Jeremy Mcgillan |
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Don't forget me, pilgrim. Everybody loved me.Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Feh your not even really dead, your an alien lizard person who just went back to planet Draco.
Artificial Intelligence in Games |
Wasn't there a recent study done on children in another country, in which it was demonstrated young people tend to start out socialist, but as they got older they moved toward capitalism ?? (runs memory checks)
We may simply be seeing the idealized world view of a young person. After a few years working in the real world this will change.
Kobold Catgirl |
Prince That Howls wrote:We could have said the same thing about George W 20 or 30 years ago. ;)Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Unfortunately, we didn't. if we had, we could have later said 'I told you', though.
I agree, it isn't truly important, except for one thing: Kids usually follow their parents on political views, because they get one-sided stories. So maybe she's just being rebellious, but if she disagrees it is telling.
Of course, Laura Bush apparently holds some liberal values, so that could account for it.
Why am I not surprised that she isn't very bright?
Yes, brilliant! It's been revealed that Bush's family doesn't agree with him on every issue!
QUICK! TO THE SLANDERMOBILE!!!Bitter Thorn |
Bitter Thorn wrote:Prince That Howls wrote:We could have said the same thing about George W 20 or 30 years ago. ;)Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Unfortunately, we didn't. if we had, we could have later said 'I told you', though.
I agree, it isn't truly important, except for one thing: Kids usually follow their parents on political views, because they get one-sided stories. So maybe she's just being rebellious, but if she disagrees it is telling.
Of course, Laura Bush apparently holds some liberal values, so that could account for it.
Bitter Thorn wrote:Why am I not surprised that she isn't very bright?Yes, brilliant! It's been revealed that Bush's family doesn't agree with him on every issue!
QUICK! TO THE SLANDERMOBILE!!!
You're late to the party. I've been slandering Bushes for years! ;)
Orthos |
Orthos wrote:This article?They have a weird definition of libertarian.
Yeah, that one caught me by surprise too. I assumed it was some alternate, nonpolitical definition that I'd never heard of before.
Kirth Gersen |
Wasn't there a recent study done on children in another country, in which it was demonstrated young people tend to start out socialist, but as they got older they moved toward capitalism ?? (runs memory checks)We may simply be seeing the idealized world view of a young person. After a few years working in the real world this will change.
I seem to recall that, too. Then again, there are any number of people who smugly run around like Hitler Youth when they're younger, only to mellow out into a more liberal adulthood. For the most part, I think kids gravitate towards a simplistic "all-or-nothing" extreme view; as they gain experience and actually think things through, they come to realize that life maybe isn't quite so black and white.
Regression to the mean: it's not just for biology anymore!
Prince That Howls |
Prince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
True, but for the most part it’s not their fault. It’s the fault of the media, and every person out there who picks up a people magazine. If people stopped following the personal lives of celebrities then maybe their opinions would become less newsworthy.
Bitter Thorn |
Artificial Intelligence in Games wrote:
Wasn't there a recent study done on children in another country, in which it was demonstrated young people tend to start out socialist, but as they got older they moved toward capitalism ?? (runs memory checks)We may simply be seeing the idealized world view of a young person. After a few years working in the real world this will change.
I seem to recall that, too. Then again, there are any number of people who smugly run around like Hitler Youth when they're younger, only to mellow out into a more liberal adulthood. For the most part, I think kids gravitate towards a simplistic "all-or-nothing" extreme view; as they gain experience and actually think things through, they come to realize that life maybe isn't quite so black and white.
Regression to the mean: it's not just for biology anymore!
I have become more libertarian in my old age. I'm not sure if that makes me more radical/ideological or less.
Steven Tindall |
Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
I could say something snarky but I won't.
The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.If they wish to enter into the political arena thats fine, what the heck sonny of sonny and cher did, even the guy that played cooter from the dukes of hazzard became a senator. I can understand useing your fame to get yourself noticed and help get yourself elected but the ones I dislike are the linsdy lohans taht think because they are a celebrity that somehow makes them a better political mind and influence MY vote simply because "they" said so.
Freehold DM |
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
I could say something snarky but I won't.
The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.
If they wish to enter into the political arena thats fine, what the heck sonny of sonny and cher did, even the guy that played cooter from the dukes of hazzard became a senator. I can understand useing your fame to get yourself noticed and help get yourself elected but the ones I dislike are the linsdy lohans taht think because they are a celebrity that somehow makes them a better political mind and influence MY vote simply because "they" said so.
Are you sure you don't mean "No more right to a political opinion"? The sentence flows smoother that way.
Urizen |
The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.
Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
Crimson Jester |
Avatar of John Wayne wrote:Feh your not even really dead, your an alien lizard person who just went back to planet Draco.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Don't forget me, pilgrim. Everybody loved me.Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Snark!
Although we could sure use that old rotten skin bag right now.
Urizen |
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Avatar of John Wayne wrote:Feh your not even really dead, your an alien lizard person who just went back to planet Draco.Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Don't forget me, pilgrim. Everybody loved me.Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
Snark!
Although we could sure use that old rotten skin bag right now.
Just go to a Frisch's Restaurant. He's the official mascot.
Freehold DM |
Steven Tindall wrote:The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
THE CHOPPA! GET DOWNAH! EVERYBODY GET DOWNAH!
Urizen |
Urizen wrote:THE CHOPPA! GET DOWNAH! EVERYBODY GET DOWNAH!Steven Tindall wrote:The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
Have you listened to Austrian Death Machine?
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:Have you listened to Austrian Death Machine?Urizen wrote:THE CHOPPA! GET DOWNAH! EVERYBODY GET DOWNAH!Steven Tindall wrote:The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
No, but I'm already hooked on the name. What do they do?
Urizen |
Urizen wrote:No, but I'm already hooked on the name. What do they do?Freehold DM wrote:Have you listened to Austrian Death Machine?Urizen wrote:THE CHOPPA! GET DOWNAH! EVERYBODY GET DOWNAH!Steven Tindall wrote:The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
Crimson Jester |
Orthos wrote:This article?I need to read this.
no you smurfy dont
Orthos |
Orthos wrote:Thanks Urizen. They have been added to my radio station. :DWhile I enjoy that side project more, the singer's regular band is "As I Lay Dying." I think you'll enjoy them too. link.
I do believe that one's already on my list... if not it should already have been and I need to rectify this.
Bitter Thorn |
Freehold DM wrote:indulge!Urizen wrote:No, but I'm already hooked on the name. What do they do?Freehold DM wrote:Have you listened to Austrian Death Machine?Urizen wrote:THE CHOPPA! GET DOWNAH! EVERYBODY GET DOWNAH!Steven Tindall wrote:The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.Holy crap! Cyberdyne did succeed and an amendment was revised.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!
Stimulating! Very stimulating!
Bitter Thorn |
Orthos wrote:Thanks Urizen. They have been added to my radio station. :DWhile I enjoy that side project more, the singer's regular band is "As I Lay Dying." I think you'll enjoy them too. link.
Also stimulating!!
Erik Mona Chief Creative Officer, Publisher |
Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
I could say something snarky but I won't.
The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing.
If they wish to enter into the political arena thats fine, what the heck sonny of sonny and cher did, even the guy that played cooter from the dukes of hazzard became a senator. I can understand useing your fame to get yourself noticed and help get yourself elected but the ones I dislike are the linsdy lohans taht think because they are a celebrity that somehow makes them a better political mind and influence MY vote simply because "they" said so.
Out of curiosity, would this philosophy apply to Bob Dylan, Langston Hughes, or Ted Nugent, too?
Grand Magus |
Steven Tindall wrote:Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:Steven Tindall wrote:All I have to say to that is Ronald Reagan :PPrince That Howls wrote:+1 well said. While were at it who cares what celebrities think either just because you can act or sing doesn't mean you have ANY political clout above being a single voter like the rest of us.Who. Cares.
Just because she’s related so someone famous doesn’t mean her opinion matters.
I could say something snarky but I won't.
The actor who later became govenor and then president had more right to have a political opinion than say brittany spears commenting on world affairs or bono trying to influence financial matters because he can sing. smurf
If they wish to enter into the political arena thats fine, what the heck sonny of sonny and cher did, even the guy that played cooter from the dukes of hazzard became a senator. I can understand useing your fame to get yourself noticed and help get yourself elected but the ones I dislike are the linsdy lohans taht think because they are a celebrity that somehow makes them a better political mind and influence MY vote simply because "they" said so.Out of curiosity, would this philosophy apply to Bob Dylan, Langston Hughes, or Ted Nugent, too?
Mona makes a point. Also, Lindsay Lohan didn't buy her celebrity or
get it for offering promises to a super PAC in return for cash.It was handed to her, for no other reason than her high Charisma stat.
So, it is not out of line for her to use it however she wants to.
Just like George Clooney and Rush Limbough.
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Aretas |
I just had a baby and the Doctors, Nurses, staff told me that if I was on Public aid EVERYTHING would have been paid for 100%. EVERYTHING!
While the working stiffs who pay for health care premiums like me get screwed, people who supposedly have less money than me pay ZERO for the same health care.
So I don't believe that more money = better health care.