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Will there be an errata for the Bonus Bestiary?


This is a good question. I do not think that making an errata for the Bonus Bestiary would be too much time-intensive. After all, there are only 13 creatures in the B.B., and I do not think it contains too much errors - although some errors are indeed there.
For example, the Faerie Dragon's CMB and CMD - CMB should be +0 (+3 BaB, -1 Str, -2 Size) instead of +8, and CMD should be 14 (10, +3 BaB, -1 Str, +3 Dex, -2 Size, +1 Dodge) instead of 17.

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chopswil wrote:
Will there be an errata for the Bonus Bestiary?

We have no plans to do errata for the Bonus Bestiary at this time. Mostly because creating errata is a LOT more complex than just one person sitting down to create a PDF. As a result, we generally don't create eratta files for the majority of our products... only for a major core rule release or for products that direly need errata. The Bonus Bestiary is neither.

Sovereign Court

Doesn't the Faerie Dragon due to it's size automatically use it's Dex instead of it's Strength for it's CMB?


Morgen wrote:
Doesn't the Faerie Dragon due to it's size automatically use it's Dex instead of it's Strength for it's CMB?

Aha ! You are right !

But still, the numbers are off...

BaB +3, +3 Dex (instead of Str), -2 Size = CMB +4 (not +8)
basically, it was used the AC bonus Tiny creatures gain (+2) OR the Attack Bonus Tiny creatures gain (still +2) instead of the CMB penalty Tiny creatures gain (-2).

And the CMD is still wrong, since it is not based on the CMB, but on Str AND Dex modifiers (and even if the calculation would have been based on CMB, the entry is wrong, since it would have been 19, not 17; 10 +8 CMB +1 Dodge)...

Sovereign Court

Yeah unless there is some kind of weird dragon bonus we're missing it is still off. Wonder what the other faerie dragons have listed for CMD. I assume there are probably several in Kingmaker.

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Morgen wrote:
Yeah unless there is some kind of weird dragon bonus we're missing it is still off. Wonder what the other faerie dragons have listed for CMD. I assume there are probably several in Kingmaker.

There's a faerie dragon stat block in Kingmaker #1 that should do quite nicely.

Grand Lodge

it's a FAERY dragon... I'd go with whatever is in the BB and not worry myself with weird fey magic and just be thankful they aren't pranking me for a change!


James Jacobs wrote:
There's a faerie dragon stat block in Kingmaker #1 that should do quite nicely.

Actually I noticed a couple more differences between those stat blocks.

  • AC line in the BB forgets about Dodge. AP #31 is correct.
  • SR is 14 in the BB, 13 in AP #31. I suspect 13 is correct, in line with another CR 2 dragon, the white wyrmling (Bestiary p. 100; the formula for SR, 11 + CR, is on page 91). But to be honest I have no idea how monster designers decide what SR, if any, to give a monster.
  • Base land speed is 10 ft. in the BB, 30 ft. in AP #31. Again comparing to the white wyrmling it should probably be 30 ft. (assuming the base statistic block is wrong in making it 60 ft., since that's what all the actual stat blocks say).
  • BB doesn't list a concentration modifier for its sorcerer spells (it's +6).
  • As others have mentioned, CMB and CMD are both wrong in the BB (AP #31 is correct).
  • Fly skill is +19 in the BB, +23 in AP #31 (latter is correct, includes +4 size bonus).
  • BB doesn't list Sylvan as a known language. This could be unique to Perlivash I suppose, but it seems reasonable for such a quasi-fey creature to know it.
Finally, both the BB and AP #31 omit the DC for ghost sound (it's 13).


I just use the Faerie dragon as is. Not really a big deal if the calculations are wrong. I just made it a feature of the dragon. Any bonus it has that I can't calculate where it came from just became a racial bonus to the CMB an CMD.


What about eratta for Pathfiner Bestiary?
I couldn't find a "send Paizo eratta thread" so I'll add my find here.

Hell Hounds have incorrect Survival Skill bonus

Pathfinder Bestiary omits to add text stating "Hell Hounds and Nessian Hell Hounds have a +8 racial bonus on Survival checks". Thus the true Survival skill modifier for Hell Hounds is +15 and not +7. The entry for Nessian Hell Hounds remains correct (after errata) at +18.

I would applaud Paizo if they corrected this error by adding it to Bestiary Errata PDF.

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Hell hounds have 16 skill ranks. They are spent as follows: Acrobatics 4 ranks, Perception 4 ranks, Stealth 4 ranks and Survival 4 ranks. They have a +5 racial bonus to Stealth and +8 racial bonus to Survival.

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The Nessian Hell Hound has 36 skill ranks. They are spent as follows: Acrobatics 11 ranks, Perception 8 ranks, Stealth 11 ranks and Survival 6 ranks. They have a +5 racial bonus to Stealth and +8 racial bonus to Survival.


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