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The possibilities with the summoner's eidolons are almost endless, and I bet we've all come up with some really flavorful concepts for the class.
Imma start:
The summoner I'm playing right now is an 8 year old kid. He's just an unsuspecting, normal kid at first glance, but after staying with him for a while the oddities start to show. He casts spells, he's positively rolling in money, he's a loner with no parents, no guardians, and his only friend is the mysterious "Mr. Grizzles." Mr. Grizzles is his eidolon, a hulking, terrifying teddy bear the size of a man.
He's a blast to play. I gave Mr. Grizzles bugbear feats from Classic Monsters, like Sow Terror. The summoning process involves Damian looking under beds, opening closets, etc, all the classic spots for childhood monsters to hide. Love it.
I'm interested to hear what unique summoners everyone else has come up with. Let's see 'em.
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The summoning process involves Damian looking under beds, opening closets, etc, all the classic spots for childhood monsters to hide. Love it.
That's just awesome.
My two Summoners are just working on dragon-shaped Eidolons, so nothing creative there, but the notion of a Summoner who considers their biped Eidolon to be their twin (or, perhaps, a celestial or fiendish remnant of a twin who died at birth, that they can summon to join them in the life that was stolen from them) is kinda cool. The Eidolon would start, in childhood, as a sort of imaginary friend, and few would believe that it really exists and that the 'strange touched child with his imaginary friend' wasn't just kooky and sad.
But, in time, his 'brother' (or sister) would become more stably present, perhaps after he/she runs away and requires the help of the imaginary friend to survive on their own.
The imaginary friend might not be a twin, but an actual childhood friend who died, perhaps even as a result of the actions of the Summoner, and the summoner is working through 'survivor's guilt' by conjuring up the friend they lost (or, subconsciously forming their Eidolon in that shape), so that the dead friend can experience the life that was stolen from them. (Perhaps this is the truth, even, and the Eidolon *is* somehow connected to the soul of the departed, having been granted this second chance at experiencing the life that was stolen from them so early by celestial patrons.)
A darker version of this would be playing the Summoner as a fiend-pact-warlock dealie. The spells are derived from delving into forbidden texts of conjuration, and the Eidolon is a sinister 'advisor' from the infernal realms, who is more or less obedient, due to 'binding rituals' and 'keeping the pact,' but sinister, deceptive and perhaps even subtly intimidating to the Summoner, treating him with contempt and urging him to increasingly fell and dangerous practices...
| Ryzoken |
So, there's this game series, video games. Started back in Japan back in 1996 or thereabouts. It got huge, then got ported over the US, where it also became huge, and though the franchise's non video game merchandise became less widespread in the face of more recent offerings, the game series continues today, and faces its 15th anniversary next year (if my facts are correct.) Its impact during its heyday was sufficient that it remains, indelibly stained in the pop culture memory despite its childish scope (the anime was the primary reason behind that shift from its original adolescent target audience).
It's game about catching monsters, originally 151, now up to 493 species. It's Pokemon, and it's a scourge I will unleash on my gaming group, one summoner PC at a time.
Scyther, Slash! bwahahahaha!!!!
*explodes from the evil he just unleashed* worth it!
| Firest |
A darker version of this would be playing the Summoner as a fiend-pact-warlock dealie. The spells are derived from delving into forbidden texts of conjuration, and the Eidolon is a sinister 'advisor' from the infernal realms, who is more or less obedient, due to 'binding rituals' and 'keeping the pact,' but sinister, deceptive and perhaps even subtly intimidating to the Summoner, treating him with contempt and urging him to increasingly fell and dangerous practices...
Even darker would be if the Eidolon was made from the soul of someone (like a family member) that the Summoner had to sacrifice in order to awaken their powers.
Jared Ouimette
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Behold, Chimichanga, hailing from the Abyssal Plane of Tako-Bel, where there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth (on extraordinarily hard Tako shells)! Yea, verily it is a horrible place to behold, where the court of the Prince of Fiery Pain is said to dwell and Hellfire Tako Sauce reigns supreme. Food there is made of horribly wilted lettuce (gasp!) and only rats are there to sate your hunger. And yet, the most horrible thing about this terrible place is...THERE ARE NO TOILETS! You wouldn't want to use any you do find, for invariably they are unclean and someone has used the last roll of toilet paper and have not replaced it.
Dave the Barbarian
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My gnome summoner from Cheliax is named San'Tee Krazentine Stubbyfingers. An exotic animal breeder by trade, he adventures with his Eidolon named Moosta Crustosis. A biped with reach on his claws/slam and a bite attack. I can enlarge person on him to make him large size. Soon he will be able to swallow his enemies whole. So his role will be - Go large, eat all of the enemies. I wonder if he is killed and goes back to his plane, if his lunch goes with him? I would assume so.
Paris Crenshaw
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I converted a conjuration specialist wizard in one of my campaigns to an NPC summoner after his player left. The player envisioned his Lawful Neutral character as having one foot in each of the celestial and fiendish realms. He was also a worshiper of Nethys.
I crafted a bipedal eidolon that takes the black-white theme of Nethys's holy symbol and applies it to the entire creature: one half of the creature is white with tinges of gold, while the other half is pitch black. The thing is basically half angel/half devil and sports two pairs of wings. It has wicked-looking claws, but also has the ability to use cure light wounds as a spell-like ability. When it arrives, it does so in a shower of gold sparks mingled with motes of black energy.
xn0o0cl3
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As a side note. I've wondered if an eidolon can be 'hollow' and if so, how hollow?
Because the whole idea of summoning a 'suit' to fight 'in' just struck me as a weird fun idea.
"I am Eidolon Man!"
:)
I love this idea. One of my friends made a villain whose Eidolon was a suit of living armor. Not totally supported by the rules, but DM trumps rules :[] I wouldn't mind having a few alternate base forms, like "armor."
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I love this idea. One of my friends made a villain whose Eidolon was a suit of living armor. Not totally supported by the rules, but DM trumps rules :[] I wouldn't mind having a few alternate base forms, like "armor."
An avian form, for the Andoran Summoner, seems like a must for this setting. Start it out Small, so that it's not any more of an issue than a Druid having an Eagle companion at 1st level (since nobody is likely to be riding that Small mount, barring the use of reduce person for a one-time fix).
After thinking about either Crowley with his invisible 'hell hound' in Supernatural, or Mister Morden with his 'shadow' companions, I'm absolutely in love with the idea of a Summoner who has an invisible Eidolon.
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My Summoner in PFS is a guy named Rebo. His pet is named Zootie, and he's a medium sized looking halfling who loves to sniff things. He probably won't be much of a combat edilon, just a tracker for those survival skill checks.
I assume that all he ever says is "Zootie! Zoot! Zoot!" And tugs on his legs.
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The possibilities with the summoner's eidolons are almost endless, and I bet we've all come up with some really flavorful concepts for the class.
Imma start:
The summoner I'm playing right now is an 8 year old kid. He's just an unsuspecting, normal kid at first glance, but after staying with him for a while the oddities start to show. He casts spells, he's positively rolling in money, he's a loner with no parents, no guardians, and his only friend is the mysterious "Mr. Grizzles." Mr. Grizzles is his eidolon, a hulking, terrifying teddy bear the size of a man.
He's a blast to play. I gave Mr. Grizzles bugbear feats from Classic Monsters, like Sow Terror. The summoning process involves Damian looking under beds, opening closets, etc, all the classic spots for childhood monsters to hide. Love it.
That's a great concept. Have you heard of a game called "Monsters and Other Childish Things"? Much the same concept, except all the players are kids and their monsters do the fighting for them.
| Rio, Pokemon Trainer |
So, there's this game series, video games. Started back in Japan back in 1996 or thereabouts. It got huge, then got ported over the US, where it also became huge, and though the franchise's non video game merchandise became less widespread in the face of more recent offerings, the game series continues today, and faces its 15th anniversary next year (if my facts are correct.) Its impact during its heyday was sufficient that it remains, indelibly stained in the pop culture memory despite its childish scope (the anime was the primary reason behind that shift from its original adolescent target audience).
It's game about catching monsters, originally 151, now up to 493 species. It's Pokemon, and it's a scourge I will unleash on my gaming group, one summoner PC at a time.
Scyther, Slash! bwahahahaha!!!!
*explodes from the evil he just unleashed* worth it!
*throws a pokeball at the Scyther*
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I've got two summoners here on Paizo, Ayla and Alton, who have digimon eidolon. Sadly, neither got to see any game time.
Ayla's Eidolon is a spider that hunts with a bow. Throw a web and then shoot it until it stops wiggling!
Alton's Eidolon is his flying mount, and it's name(Ryuu) literally means 'dragon spirit'. The actual background for this high-flying pair can be found here.
xn0o0cl3
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That's a great concept. Have you heard of a game called "Monsters and Other Childish Things"? Much the same concept, except all the players are kids and their monsters do the fighting for them.
Yesss I have heard of that! My god I want to play it sometime. I'm a big fan of little indie rpg's. (I'm dying to play Mouse Guard sometime as well.)
BYC
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Is there a way to do a gelatinous cube form? Because I've run into some really interesting encounters with those things, and I love them. One of my favorite monsters. I would like to possibly RP a boy who found his blob, based on A Boy and His Blob of NES fame, and the more modern Pokeman, Digimon school.
I haven't read the rules fully (only glanced), but I'm unsure how I can do it other than to make it look like a gelatinous cube or another ooze type, but mechanically act as an ooze type.
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I've got two summoners here on Paizo, Ayla and Alton, who have digimon eidolon. Sadly, neither got to see any game time.
Ayla's Eidolon is a spider that hunts with a bow. Throw a web and then shoot it until it stops wiggling!
Alton's Eidolon is his flying mount, and it's name(Ryuu) literally means 'dragon spirit'. The actual background for this high-flying pair can be found here.
Dragonborn, just thought you should know, Reptilian's game is lacking a certain crazy cleric.
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The summoner I'm currently playing has an eidolon he made a bargain with from the dimension of dreams. It retained some of its morphic nature when summoned in the form of a racial bonus to disguise and the Disguise Self spell-like ability.
Due to the nature of the bond, he treats the eidolon with much respect. While on the material plane the eidolon must follow the summoner's orders, but their roles are reversed in the realm of dreams.
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My idea was to have a character with a bipedal eidolon that looks just like him, and it would be like a psychic manifestation of an aborted twin whose brain grows like a cancer in his own. On the surface is shaped completely human, but if you look all the parts (face, orifices, etc) are all in the wrong place, the arms are bisected, there is no skin, etc. Eidolon remains hooded and covered all the time.
| HalfOrcHeavyMetal |
One I had planned to make before the DM/GM railroaded me into a Humanoid form was a Quadruped form that eventually would have become a six-legged reptilian with a long, finned tail and powerful, acidic-saliva jaws, able to rear up and rake with any of the six legs, climb walls with ease and swim like a crocodile, eventually becoming Large Size and able to punt creeps around with it's tail attack.
One I statted up for 'teh lulz' as one of the group would say, was basically a Mini-Gogirra, Humanoid with a long tail, spine-frills down the back, impressively thick hide, regenerative abilities and a potent fire-breath attack. DM/GM shot it down so fast it wasn't funny.
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Is there a way to do a gelatinous cube form? Because I've run into some really interesting encounters with those things, and I love them. One of my favorite monsters. I would like to possibly RP a boy who found his blob, based on A Boy and His Blob of NES fame, and the more modern Pokeman, Digimon school.
I haven't read the rules fully (only glanced), but I'm unsure how I can do it other than to make it look like a gelatinous cube or another ooze type, but mechanically act as an ooze type.
You can the the ooze base form in the Advanced Options Extra Evolutions book
Zelda Marie Lupescu
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I just had an idea that while it's technically not allowed by the RAW, I think it could work by the RAI, since the way I see it the RAI of the rule against your eidolon having a specific look is to prevent you from looking like the Mayor or the Queen and impersonating them.
That said, I had an idea for a summoner who's eidolon is her identical twin sister. She doesn't even realize she's a summoner truly, just a sorceress with a penchant for summoning spells. As for why she has to summon her sister every morning when she wakes up, maybe she thinks her sister died (or did!) and that she's now summoning her sister who has ascended. Or, maybe the actual summoning ritual is kind of done and forgotten after she does it, because it's kind of a thing, she doesn't realize she's doing it.
I'm Hiding In Your Closet
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There's a third-party supplement available on this site (I believe the publisher is called Super Genius games) that offers Summoners, among many other things, a "Hut" Eidolon Form, in the vein of a more modest iteration of Baba Yaga's mobile house, and a "Metal Skin" Evolution that offers a huge armor class bonus at the expense of some agility. So, my idea was a Broodmaster with 2 (no more, no fewer) Eidolons both of Hut Form, and each with that Evolution. The character also has ranks in Craft (Composer).
Thus I give you: Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson.
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About my most unique eidolon was essentially a large celestial scorpion that I paired with an Aasimar summoner. We called him Slinkers and the party ended up finding out that it he was a gifted diplomat and usually let him speak for them in delicate negotiations. At one point Slinkers was given a top hat and monocle via prestidigitation when an alarmed doorman tried to keep him from attending a fancy gala by saying that "[summoner]'s... er... companion... is not properly dressed for a formal occasion."
| Lord Mhoram |
I've played one summoner. The eidolon was biped, but the neck ended in a cone with spinning teeth (so it looked sort of like a garbage disposal). No tentacles or pounce, did have claws and such.
Background the character had nightmares and this was her nightmare. As she grew older, she became friends with it in her dreams. And when she was assaulted when she was 17 it came to life to protect her.
The whole time it was an outsider trying to communicate with her, but she didn't know it. From her POV she tamed her nightmare and brought it to life.