[4WFG] In the works - The Apothecary's Handbook


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We at 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming are excited to announce one of our upcoming products, The Apothecary's Handbook, focusing on herbalism and basic pharmacology in a fantasy setting. We don't have a firm page count or release date yet, as this one is still in the early stages, but we anticipate a PDF at least 40 pages long, and it should be ready to go sometime this summer or early fall.

I talked more about it on our Facebook fanpage.

Connie
4WFG


ArielManx wrote:

We at 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming are excited to announce one of our upcoming products, The Apothecary's Handbook, focusing on herbalism and basic pharmacology in a fantasy setting. We don't have a firm page count or release date yet, as this one is still in the early stages, but we anticipate a PDF at least 40 pages long, and it should be ready to go sometime this summer or early fall.

I talked more about it on our Facebook fanpage.

Connie
4WFG

At the very least, we'll have it on our Lulu storefront as PoD in addition to the PDF. It just might end up being a print product, though...

Robert
4WFG


So, this about ways to use those points put into "Profession: Herbalist" and "Healing" to treat wounds that would be a waste of channeling or CLW spells? That's pretty cool, and lets characters like Rangers do their share of helping with recovery - finding that kingsfoil to treat a nasty venomous wound, for example. I like it.


Lyingbastard wrote:
So, this about ways to use those points put into "Profession: Herbalist" and "Healing" to treat wounds that would be a waste of channeling or CLW spells? That's pretty cool, and lets characters like Rangers do their share of helping with recovery - finding that kingsfoil to treat a nasty venomous wound, for example. I like it.

Not just the minor stuff that would be a waste of channeling or cure spells, but also for those instances when there is no cleric, paladin or druid around, only the half-orc ranger or the halfling sorceress, but both know a few things about herbal healing...

Sczarni

Nice, I can honestly say that I am really looking forward to this.


Frerezar wrote:
Nice, I can honestly say that I am really looking forward to this.

That's great to hear!


this looks like a great idea

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ArielManx wrote:

We at 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming are excited to announce one of our upcoming products, The Apothecary's Handbook, focusing on herbalism and basic pharmacology in a fantasy setting. We don't have a firm page count or release date yet, as this one is still in the early stages, but we anticipate a PDF at least 40 pages long, and it should be ready to go sometime this summer or early fall.

I talked more about it on our Facebook fanpage.

Connie
4WFG

Wow, sounds great!


MerrikCale wrote:
this looks like a great idea

We're glad that you think so! We are certainly excited about it!


Callous Jack wrote:
Wow, sounds great!

Thanks! It's an exciting project for us, and one Connie has been wanting to do for a while.

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Some questions:
Will this book have information on poisons, even if that's just certain types of berry or flower?
What about a rundown of necessary equipment?
Will it have herbs and plants from all types of environments (desert, shore, mountain, etc.)?
Will it have prices?


Callous Jack wrote:

Some questions:

Will this book have information on poisons, even if that's just certain types of berry or flower?

Possibly, but more than likely it will be more of a warning ("Be careful with this plant - the leaves heal, but the berries are poisonous!") than information about making poisons. Poison stats will be included for those plants that are poisonous.

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What about a rundown of necessary equipment?

Yes!

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Will it have herbs and plants from all types of environments (desert, shore, mountain, etc.)?

Also yes!

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Will it have prices?

And yes, yet again! :D

Connie
4WFG

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Very cool i really hope this book goes well. My one request is run the spectrum from one end to the other. Basic fairly mundane stuff, like asprin plants to ones that do real healing. Also I personally would love to see more everyday uses. Birth control for example, hang over cure etc.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Very cool i really hope this book goes well. My one request is run the spectrum from one end to the other. Basic fairly mundane stuff, like asprin plants to ones that do real healing. Also I personally would love to see more everyday uses. Birth control for example, hang over cure etc.

Like Ragu, "It's in there!" (Am I dating myself with that old commercial reference? I may be. Damn.) We will definitely be running the full spectrum, from minor things like aloe to herbs that can do some serious healing, and I personally would not dream of putting out an herbalism book without birth control herbs.

Glad you're excited, DM! We are too.

Connie
4WFG

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ArielManx wrote:


Like Ragu, "It's in there!" (Am I dating myself with that old commercial reference? I may be. Damn.)

Yes. ;-)

But at least you didn't ask where the beef was.

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ArielManx wrote:

Lots of answers

Great, thanks!

You mentioned tinctures, will there be all extracts, tisanes, decoctions and other variants?
As Dark Mistress suggested, I would like to see everyday stuff like an aphrodisiac. Also, could you have a couple fake snake oil/cure-all in there like the way they marketed Coke in the old days.
Oh and one odd request, a super laxative! lol
Twice now I have had people sneak into guarded locations by offering the guards drink and food laced with something that I had to make up on the fly. They ended up being one of those stories people love to laugh about later.

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
ArielManx wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Very cool i really hope this book goes well. My one request is run the spectrum from one end to the other. Basic fairly mundane stuff, like asprin plants to ones that do real healing. Also I personally would love to see more everyday uses. Birth control for example, hang over cure etc.

Like Ragu, "It's in there!" (Am I dating myself with that old commercial reference? I may be. Damn.) We will definitely be running the full spectrum, from minor things like aloe to herbs that can do some serious healing, and I personally would not dream of putting out an herbalism book without birth control herbs.

Glad you're excited, DM! We are too.

Connie
4WFG

I am very much excited about this kind of project. Just like with the Luven's Shop, I loved all the non adventure stuff like clothes etc. Callous had a few more good examples too.

Though I will add, if you guys do this and do your normal bang up job on it. I fully expect to see a alchemist book next. :)


Well, we're not going to rule anything out, but we're going to have to see what the APG adds to the games before we start working on supplemental material for them, naturally.

I'm honestly pretty excited to see what's in store.

Sean
4WFG


Lyingbastard wrote:

Well, we're not going to rule anything out, but we're going to have to see what the APG adds to the games before we start working on supplemental material for them, naturally.

I'm honestly pretty excited to see what's in store.

Sean
4WFG

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Lyingbastard wrote:

Well, we're not going to rule anything out, but we're going to have to see what the APG adds to the games before we start working on supplemental material for them, naturally.

I'm honestly pretty excited to see what's in store.

Sean
4WFG

Well I was more talking general alchemy and not alchemist class alchemy. Yeah I know there is some overlap but the alchemist class is a lot more Dr Jekyll/Mr Hide. I was more asking for/wanting to see a book of more typical alchemy. Things that any PC could make with craft: alchemy skill. Basically the same as what it seems you guys are going to be doing with herblism with this product but for alchemy.

If you wanted to do something with the alchemist class I think it would be better to do a book like what Merrik suggest.


Dark_Mistress wrote:

Well I was more talking general alchemy and not alchemist class alchemy. Yeah I know there is some overlap but the alchemist class is a lot more Dr Jekyll/Mr Hide. I was more asking for/wanting to see a book of more typical alchemy. Things that any PC could make with craft: alchemy skill. Basically the same as what it seems you guys are going to be doing with herblism with this product but for alchemy.

If you wanted to do something with the alchemist class I think it would be better to do a book like what Merrik suggest.

If the Apothecary's Handbook does well, then we will most certainly consider an Alchemist's Handbook as a follow up.

Robert
4WFG


I always thought herbalism need more umph. I'm looking forward to this.


ArielManx wrote:

We at 4 Winds Fantasy Gaming are excited to announce one of our upcoming products, The Apothecary's Handbook, focusing on herbalism and basic pharmacology in a fantasy setting. We don't have a firm page count or release date yet, as this one is still in the early stages, but we anticipate a PDF at least 40 pages long, and it should be ready to go sometime this summer or early fall.

I talked more about it on our Facebook fanpage.

Connie
4WFG

Sounds interesting. I'll look forward to it.


Chaotic_Blues wrote:
I always thought herbalism need more umph. I'm looking forward to this.

Glad to hear it! We think you'll like our take on the subject.

Robert
4WFG


Rogan Hamby wrote:
Sounds interesting. I'll look forward to it.

Awesome! Thanks!

Robert
4WFG

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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Not to thread jack but this seemed like the place to ask. With the link I went and read all the "blogs" or posting you guys have done on facebook and one caught my eye.

Albion Armitage’s Astounding Arsenal, this sounds like a follow up for Luven's shop. I have to say that intrigues me considering how good of a job you guys did on Luven's Shop.


Dark_Mistress wrote:

Not to thread jack but this seemed like the place to ask. With the link I went and read all the "blogs" or posting you guys have done on facebook and one caught my eye.

Albion Armitage’s Astounding Arsenal, this sounds like a follow up for Luven's shop. I have to say that intrigues me considering how good of a job you guys did on Luven's Shop.

Well, it sort of is and sort of isn't a follow-up to LLG&TS. Some of the equipment was stuff that didn't quite fit in that book. However, most of the is original and the majority of the book is actually an adventure module. We'll shed more light on it as it gets nearer release date.

Sean
4WFG


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Dark_Mistress wrote:

Not to thread jack but this seemed like the place to ask. With the link I went and read all the "blogs" or posting you guys have done on facebook and one caught my eye.

Albion Armitage’s Astounding Arsenal, this sounds like a follow up for Luven's shop. I have to say that intrigues me considering how good of a job you guys did on Luven's Shop.

I second this opinion. However, what I really want to see next from 4 Winds is a book similar to LLG&TS, but focused specifically on military issues (though, to be clear, NOT mass combat rules).

Such a book would cover things like siege weaponry (beyond the usual catapults, ballistae, trebuchet, et al), personnel/troops (how much they cost, what roles they fill, etc.), and other details of what you'd need to carry out military operations - maybe even extras like the psychological effects of war, etc.

Basically, something that covers the oft-overlooked details of military adventuring, the way the first book did for "normal" adventuring.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Not to thread jack but this seemed like the place to ask. With the link I went and read all the "blogs" or posting you guys have done on facebook and one caught my eye.

You're always welcome to become become a fan on Facebook and post your questions there!

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Albion Armitage’s Astounding Arsenal, this sounds like a follow up for Luven's shop. I have to say that intrigues me considering how good of a job you guys did on Luven's Shop.

See Sean's answer...


Alzrius wrote:

I second this opinion. However, what I really want to see next from 4 Winds is a book similar to LLG&TS, but focused specifically on military issues (though, to be clear, NOT mass combat rules).

Such a book would cover things like siege weaponry (beyond the usual catapults, ballistae, trebuchet, et al), personnel/troops (how much they cost, what roles they fill, etc.), and other details of what you'd need to carry out military operations - maybe even extras like the psychological effects of war, etc.

Basically, something that covers the oft-overlooked details of military adventuring, the way the first book did for "normal" adventuring.

I can tell you that this won't be our next book. The next book is Strategists & Tacticians, which looks at new combat feats, class options and combat maneuvers, as well as combat-oriented prestige classes. Look for it in mid- to late-April.

However, a book of the sort you would like to see is not out of the question from us in the future. With our current planned schedule, it may not make out out this year, but could end up in next year's schedule.


That being said, there are two siege engines among the merchandise in AAAA.

Sean
4WFG

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