With the large amount of spellcasters ideas flying around, I am thinking that I might try for a dexterous fighter, possible combination with Rogue. He would have a decent charisma and intelligence as well so that he could fit into a Ruler position but more targeted for a strategic general. Plan on taking leadership to get a standing army and the cohort might possibly fill a post that is lacking if that is possible.
To be honest, I really don't know what I'll end up suggesting by the end of the weekend.
What I love about the number of options, is that two can play the same class and end up with completely different characters.
Janku will most likely take a level of FTR around 3rd level. Gorum is partial to metal armors with spikes, so a level of fighter to help with combat, and get the necessary armor proficiency makes sense...but this depends on others choices. If we end up with a lot of combat ability, I'll send him towards diplomacy, healing, or fighting undead. Should we start up a list of choices so far to start putting things together.
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Looks like things are shaping up. I think I will play a ranger one of the families huntsman sent along to help the party through the wilds.
Party ideas
Set Bard or Summoner (possible ruler)if bard likes the councilor position
Trevor Rouge/Diviner (Arcane Trickster) with eye to Spymaster or Royal Assassin
Mark Celestial Sorcerer (possible Ruler)
Dathom Dex fighter/rouge? (leadership wants to use to form army).
Scranford Cleric of Gorum (bastard son possible ruler)
AAremeth Cavalier (any str or Chr position is fine with him)
Dorgar Ranger (with eye toward Warden or Marshal)
Ok so do you guys that want to be ruler want to roll a d100 and whoever is highest gets the position? Or have everybody lay out there idea for how they concept to play their ruler and we vote.
I guess I don't know as much about the adventure path as I thought I did. Do we need to select the leader out of the gate or just have at least one viable candidate amongst us? I was figuring there would be something along the way in the adventure path that would help decide.
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Well I was just thinking that from a role play point of view it would make for a better concept if we were focused around one noble born character that intended to rule, the rest of us playing his loyal retainers and advisors. even other family members would not be bad just in case something happens to our would be ruler. Just what I envisioned if we want to go with another concept where we are more open to deciding later who will rule I would like for it to make sense for the concept: such as a coalition of younger siblings from different families all banding together to start their own kingdom when they hear of the opportunity.
Looks like things are shaping up. I think I will play a ranger one of the families huntsman sent along to help the party through the wilds.
Party ideas
Set Bard or Summoner (possible ruler)if bard likes the councilor position
Trevor Rouge/Diviner (Arcane Trickster) with eye to Spymaster or Royal Assassin
Mark Celestial Sorcerer (possible Ruler)
Dathom Dex fighter/rouge? (leadership wants to use to form army).
Scranford Cleric of Gorum (bastard son possible ruler)
AAremeth Cavalier (any str or Chr position is fine with him)
Dorgar Ranger (with eye toward Warden or Marshal)Ok so do you guys that want to be ruler want to roll a d100 and whoever is highest gets the position? Or have everybody lay out there idea for how they concept to play their ruler and we vote.
Though Janku would accept the rulership role, he'd much rather rule from behind the throne. (Much more prone to avoiding assassination attempts ;-)
What I envision for my concept is that he wouldn't necessarily want to rule, but would take up the duty because it would be the best thing to do for the kingdom. When it comes to being from a noble family, he would be a black sheep of the Orlovsky family. Where most of that House would rather avoid conflict, he would rather confront it. As such, the rest of the family looked down on him for his choice to join the Aldori Deuling School and were quite thrilled when he had decided to head off to the dangerous and untamed River Kingdom to help clean up the bandits who made their home there. Better to not have him around when the House hosted special guests.
I plan him to be rather courageous, but not stupidly so. As such, he would be wise enough to listen to the advice of others because he knows that he doesn't always do the wisest thing. When people first meet him, they might not picture him a noble by the way he treats other, but he is still proud of his noble blood. He isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and work alongside the comman man, but he expects those he works with to put as much effort into what they are doing as he does. He has a strategic mind, and he often plans things based on this line of thinking.
Roll to rule:
Ruling Role:
Ruling role
Just curious what I would get, I'm not interested in being King. I do however like to roll dice, even if they are HTML Vitural ones.
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Alas it seems that the dice agree with me, No king for me!
Whatever the case may be I can see Rallen Corvoska getting along very well with the down to earth black sheep of the Orlovsky Family.
As a fellow Duelist and someone that is out to see the world Grow and prosper as a whole.
I've been looking into the Arcane Trickster, and I don't like how it fits and feels. My main problem is that it's nice to be a casting rogue, but the BAB is the same as a wizard, while, with three CL behind, it makes a poor roguish wizard...
So if I go diviner, it would probably be for a level or three.
I'm gonna look into it some more. Sticking to the spymaster and/or royal assassin concept, I like the rogue, the monk, the wizard or the witch.
I'll see if I can make up my mind during the weekend.
Well as Drogar pointed out I am playing a cavi in another game, so I very well might play something else, I don't rightly know. I do know he will be a knight ish type, so whatever class it is, it will be aethtically a guy with a sword serving as the muscle for some lord.
Hallows: I don't acctually expect anything to come of the red mare and house trip, I just figured it beat making the trips there as well. if it comes down to it I have a few bombs that need throwing before tomorow resets my bomb count lol. I think AAremeth will be fine.
but either way is cool with me.
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First off I have Revenge of the Kobald King as well which is the third mod in the series. I figure between the first two and some ideas I have for some side trek type stuff if all goes well I will run it as well. By that point I figure on we will have an Idea if we want to venture forth for more. This is a lot of material for a pbp, and should keep us going for quite some time. This stuff was designed with 3.5 in mind so for this I'm planning on going with the fast progression.
I wouldn't mind seeing the number posted here every so often, but over all I am more concerned with the endgame of when we get to level up. if you keep me aware of when that comes along I'm good and I leave it to your judgment.
In reply to your posting in the IC thread, I must say I enjoy the way it's going so far.
For the xp, I let you decide. I like AAremeth's idea.
Regarding the Kingmaker PbP: I settled on a pure rogue. I'm still oscillating between elf and human. He would have a noble background or links, having been trained in the subtle arts of the court. His fault would be his idealism, which would lead him to see the endeavour as a way for him to accomplish something greater than deciding who will be the flavor of the month at the court.
I'll do the concept so that it could also be a bard, just in case.
I don't mind the subtle upgrades! =p
So, changing my concept. I am gonna go with A sorcerer/fighter most likely Destined aligned who will later go into Eldritch Knight. Still planning for the General position and would make a suitable ruler if needed. the rest of the background still applies, minor nobility who is the black sheep of the family. Will still take Leadership later on.
Do we have the Kingmaker group close enough to go advertising for a GM?
Janku, I still need to iron out a few details in my char, but I am up for advertising. what about the rest of you guys?
Hey Harn you are cracking me up in game I love how wary you are playing of the town kook!
Good, humor is the point. He is a true backwater lumberjack after all. Aaremeth was the strangest person that he had ever met until Nikolae and his summoned from the somewhere Eidolon showed up. And a small warnings, it is probably bound to get worse. His personality isn't really adjusted for subtlety so some of the things he says might come off as insults. Just let me know here if it gets too out-of-hand for comfort.
As for Kingmaker, I have the concept, but still need to get it fleshed out, so hopefully I can get that done soon. But I should have enough to start looking for a GM.
Nah, I can't see it hurting AAremeth's feelings inside the gam, he remembers you as a wild little child, aaremeth is very tolerant with the younger races. beides he knows you are good wood.
and outside the game as I said it is cracking me. I like it becuase it goes nicely with my want to have AAre come off as a mad scientist.
OK guys, we still need to build up a group background and story, that is our big selling point to draw a Gm to us instead of vise versa.
Drogar(Gm) and I(aaremeth/OX =p) are good to go being servants to a noble, drogar playing a ranger(huntsmen) and I playing a (cavilier) body guard type. We intend on being brothers and have grown up with whatever noble we are crowning.
Dathom (harn) with his end game being a general would be another good guard in my opinon, though if you’d prefer something further from the servant route you could be hired muscle. Or perhaps(since he is a black sheep noble) a good friend of our “king” noble?
Trevor has his eye on a spy or royal assassin with his rouge, So I would imagine this wold be a good spot to put in an ear for our nobles parents, having the apprentice of their own quiet work assassin follow along with their boy.
Janku the cleric of Gorum, A stout cleric for the road. Content to attempt to try to pull the strings from behind there may be a bit of intrigue in the days to come. Aspirations to high priest.
( I think we settled on playing by our rules since we are the ones shopping for the gm. Of course we will be willing to work with the gm if they have some ideas but as far as class goes we should be ok.)
Set bard or summoner, as a abard he would be part of the entourages entertainment and as summoner he would fit many other roles, like me he seemes to be game for pretty much anything.
Mark The sorcerer, paladin or wizard, currently Mark has the high roll of 89 to be the ruler we support for king ( the dice keep it fair after all.)
One Roll to Rule.
Drogar. n/a?
Mark = 89
Dathom= 67
AAremeth=34
Janku= 33
Trevor=?
Set=?
Trevor & Set I didn’t see a roll for you guys. If you have one feel free to update it. if not give us a d100, Drogar are you sure you don’t want to roll for it? I suggest we do it like this, highest roll gets a chance to take the title or pass it down. No more of this I could do it stuff, Either claim the title or decline and let the next person in line decide if they are taking it.
I am sure if something changes by the time down the road, it takes to actually start taking these titles we can work it out, but for now lets settle up.
Is everyone good with either being a servant to the king? Or a fellow noble aligning with the initial noble on this envoy? Lets get our story strait so we can really sell our game premis and maybe we will even get to have our pick of gms.
So I guess lets hear final choice of class, servant or fellow noble (or who ever you are to the one we are toting as king)and if you are claiming the role of king if it gets to your number. I suppose if no one wants to rule by the time it gets through all of us we could just have a democracy or something.
Cavilier, Servant, and not ruler.
In response to the previous post. I think the rolling is good and too have a basic idea of who might be the ruler is good to. But really, my decision is gonna be based off of what happens in game ultimately. Like I said before, my character doesn't necessarily want to be ruler, but if the one that everyone backs isn't up to the task, becomes a tyrant, etc. he's gonna do what he sees as right to get them off the throne, not necessarily violence, though it would still be a final option. And I know that might cause some conflict in the group, but that's the way I see it working in the real world.
In this, I see ruler as being the toughest to play because if something fails, there's no one to blame but the man on top. :P
As for tying the backgrounds together, with a bit of elaboration, I can see what Ox has laid out as a good plan. My character, though he is build more for the general role, isn't gonna be an in your face fighter type. He'll be more of an inspiring presence during the times he is needed, picked up martial training more out of necessity and blended what he learned with his natural magical talent to be an effective battlefield leader and strategist. I see him more as being a friend of one of the other nobles in the group and possible supporter for one of the non-nobles on the expedition.
Awesome, this is what I was kind of hoping to get working toward,
I didn't meant to come off as, you do this, you do this, you do this. i was just trying to put together what we already had.
I Realize, like all gamers must, that the game is going to push us all in directions as the game moves. I don't expect that all of us will be whistling into the forest and then frolicing as we build a kingdom. I was very much hoping for some colabaration. want I really don't want to see is a whole campaign working toward build a kingdom and then we all slit the throat of who ever is control in the end,one by one killing ourselves off.
So, while we will support our genral pick for King, there will be intrigue to be had?
Thank you for that first draft of a plan Ox!
My character, Corso Gaczi, is in fact related to House Surtova. His father was a minor noble, distant cousin, that was heavily imbedded in court intrigues, trying to better his family's situation. He trained me in the arts of the court and also send me studying in great universities to learn ALL the subtle arts of politics, investing a big part of his income into my education, investing in me (I'm still figuring which).
His education brought him to seriously question Brevoy's system and gave him ideas for other ways of maintaining a kingdom. His youth, and the relative peace of being a student with means, was cut short when he received a letter from his older brother announcing that his father died and that he had taken over the leadership of the family. According to him, the family could not afford to pay for his astronomical education fees and had to stop sending him money, starting now.
With the money he had left, he decided to come back to Brevoy, but under a false name (Corso Gaczi). He doesn't wish to go back to his family's way and hopes to get a chance at influencing Brevoy's politics in other ways. To him, the opportunity of building a small kingdom seems almost too good to be true.
I could thus have been hired by the parents of one of the characters as a protector.
OR
I could also have found work with relation with Dathom's background and we would have become friend, sharing similar views on the kingdom. I can see the two striking out to find allies that would be interested in giving shape to our dream.
And the dice of fate:
Thanks for working on getting things rolling AAremeth. Here is a few tidbits about Garick.
So, I'm seeing;
Janku - Cleric of Gorum
Drogar - Ranger
Dathom - Fighter (dash of Rogue?)
Trevor - Rogue
Aarameth - Cavalier
Markofbane - Paladin or Sorcerer
Set - Bard or Summoner
Between the Cavalier, Ranger and Fighter, we've got melee down.
With a Rogue, skill-monkey should be covered.
Janku has our divine casting covered (with possible backup from wands of CLW in the hands of the Ranger, Rogue and possibly the Paladin / Sorcerer and / or Bard / Summoner, via UMD, in some cases).
Either of mark's choices will add some healing potential.
Either of my choices will have some arcane potential, but neither is going to be a full caster.
My best 'tie-ins' to other party members would be to Trevor's Rogue, for my Bard (I'd change the nameless noble house to Surtova, and the deceased noble son he'd had tied his fortunes to would be an older brother of Trevor's, and perhaps Trevor's mysterious call back to the fold might have something to do with his older brother's death?) or Janku for my Summoner (I'd swap out the temple of Calistria in his backstory for a temple of Gorum, the flavor remains pretty much intact, and the Calistrian adept who temple-trained him is replaced by either Janku or an older Gorumite who trained the both of them).
I'm not terribly interested in the rulership position, but here's a roll anyway.
[Edit: Wow! I *really* didn't want to be leader, I guess!]
If I had to choose this second, it would be the Summoner. I like his House Rogorvia / red dragon connection better.
Actually, going sorcerer fighter going to Eldritch Knight at the moment. Like the concept much better.
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Thats great that Kalsgrim is a follower of Erastil. With your background it is easy to see why Garick is good friends with Kal. Probably thought of Kalsgrim as a little brother happy to have him tagging along. Garick loves the outdoors, and has always been more comfortable there then in the courtly situations of the great house he had to attend from time to time.
Actually, going sorcerer fighter going to Eldritch Knight at the moment. Like the concept much better.
Depending on how heavily you're looking at investing in fighter before you hit the prestige class, you may be able to cover the arcane and leave paladin open for Kal. I'd also be willing to leave the option open to a prospect GM.
I was thinking in taking at most 2 levels, but most likely only one level of fighter. The rest of his martial talent will come from his levels as Eldritch Knight. So I should have a fair amount of Arcane power available.
Do we have the Kingmaker group close enough to go advertising for a GM?
My Corso is ready for a Kingmaker. Anyone else is ready?
I am done, except for background. Any ideas whom he could be the younger / bastard son of?
If you pick the Surtova's, my character will certainly be interested in you. We might even be half-brothers, though you wouldn't know at first.
okie dok any one feel like writing up the jist of our character situation and want to start advertising? a few of our selling points are that we are all ready to weave together a kingmake ale and are flexible on stats and other things the dm may want to implement, we are prepared with a general idea of who we all would like to play and how we want to play them, we have a round group and a raringto play some KM.
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Ok so we have Kalsgrim Lodovka (paladin or Sorcerer) who is a younger scion of House Lodovka that has been sent forth with his retainers the Nowicki brothers a ranger, and cavalier (order of the lion?) with a charter from the Swordlords.Kalsgrim's friend (Dalthom's Eldrich Knight)has joined te party. Janku (cleric of Gorum),Servayan (bard or Summoner) and Corso (Rouge) are brothers who are connected to the Surtova family Janku and Servayan do not yet know that Corso is their half brother. They met up with the party preparing to head to the Stolen Lands overheard them discussing the preparations, and asked to join the endeavor as their own prospects in their family were none to grand. A chance to help found a fledgling kingdom appealed to them as well. Is this the gist of what I am seeing? Does it sound good? Mark, Set any final decisions on class or want to see what the GM prefers?
Since we have an eldritch knight in the offings, I think I'll go paladin unless a prospective GM has a preference.
sounds good to me.
Yes, Erastil. I have plans for that longbow... :)
What you have sounds good Dorgar. Looking into which noble family my character belongs too and once that is decided I can get most of him stated up and written out.
yup order of the lion, who ever we work for is getting ferious loyalty.
Obviously.