Would it be possible for one wizard to identify another wizards bonded item (for example his amulet)?
If so, what would you think the DC would be and would it be either spellcraft or Knowledge (arcane) check?
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The impression I got from the Bonded Object description was that it should be blatantly obvious that a wizard has and is using one. Non-worn objects have to be weilded in-hand, so I picture a wizard waving a wand, shaking a stick, gesticulating with a glaive (what have you). Likewise, a worn object would be manipulated, glow, sing, hum, throb (!!) etc etc.
Now if the object had been further enchanted, I'd set the identification DC as if it weren't a bonded object, then when identified say "oh yeah, and it's the guy's bonded object". Likewise I'd be sure to differentiate between powers it had before becoming a BO, because they'd still work (and it's this price that is used to determine market value for the item).
The impression I got from the Bonded Object description was that it should be blatantly obvious that a wizard has and is using one...a worn object would be manipulated, glow, sing, hum, throb (!!) etc etc.
What gave you that impression?
The impression I got from the Bonded Object description was that it should be blatantly obvious that a wizard has and is using one. Non-worn objects have to be weilded in-hand, so I picture a wizard waving a wand, shaking a stick, gesticulating with a glaive (what have you). Likewise, a worn object would be manipulated, glow, sing, hum, throb (!!) etc etc.
Now if the object had been further enchanted, I'd set the identification DC as if it weren't a bonded object, then when identified say "oh yeah, and it's the guy's bonded object". Likewise I'd be sure to differentiate between powers it had before becoming a BO, because they'd still work (and it's this price that is used to determine market value for the item).
Thematically, I agree. However there is nothing written, either fluff or crunch wise. Hence my quandry.
I don't see anything in the write up to suggest that the object appears as anything other than .. an object.
Sure, if you see a wizard waving a glaive around while they are casting spells at you its probably a hint. Rings and amulets especially though are just.. rings and amulets. Most everyone is wearing them except at the lowest of levels so trying to figure out what, if any at all, is a particular wizards "special item" should be nigh on impossible.
If you Always see a wizard using a particular wand (for example) no matter what he is casting then you could probably make the connection. The same just can't be said for rings and amulets though.
Saying that they glow or throb or scream bloody murder or sing a merry melody isn't far fetched, but it is a houserule.
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OK... running under the assumption as a houserule. What kind of DC could one look at? And what kind of check?
Probably spellcraft I would think. As for DC, maybe 10+ level of the item owner or some such? I'm not sure :\
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OK... running under the assumption as a houserule. What kind of DC could one look at? And what kind of check?
It could potentially just be an appraise check, if someone is specifically looking (and has the in-game knowledge to warrant it):
Check: A DC 20 Appraise check determines the value of a common item. If you succeed by 5 or more, you also determine if the item has magic properties, although this success does not grant knowledge of the magic item's abilities. If your fail the check by less than 5, you determine the price of that item to within 20% of its actual value. If you fail this check by 5 or more, the price is wildly inaccurate, subject to GM discretion. Particularly rare or exotic items might increase the DC of this check by 5 or more.
Still, that doesn't automatically tell you that it is an Arcane Bonded item, only that it is magical.
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Also, Spellcraft (along with Detect Magic or Identify) require that you be able to thoroughly examine the object.
Base on that, my opinion would be to rule that determining something to be an Arcane Bond would require a similar restriction to specifically pinpoint it as an Arcane Bonded item.
EDIT: Also to answer your original question more thoroughly, between Knowledge Arcana and Spellcraft, I would rule it as Spellcraft. Knowledge Arcana may give you knowledge that such things exist, but to pinpoint it specifically, Spellcraft seems more in line.
EDIT again: However, I would rule that Analyze Dweomer could give you the information quite quickly.