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Round 2: Summoner and Witch

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Some questions after playtesting the Summoner.

1) Do Eidolons need to eat?
2) If an Eidolon is summoned on day 1, is not dismissed by choice or damage until day 5 and is then damaged into dismissal, can the Summoner perform the ritual to resummon immediately, or does the Summoner need to wait 24 hours from time of dismissal?
3) Does the ritual for summoning the Eidolon require Verbal and/or Somatic components?

I apologize if these have been answered elsethread, but I couldn't find an answer.

(Besides, it gave me an opportunity for a cool subject line)


Mikhaila Burnett wrote:

(Besides, it gave me an opportunity for a cool subject line)

only reason why I opened the thread. :P

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Urizen wrote:
Mikhaila Burnett wrote:

(Besides, it gave me an opportunity for a cool subject line)
only reason why I opened the thread. :P

Victory is mine!


Mikhaila Burnett wrote:

1) Do Eidolons need to eat?

2) If an Eidolon is summoned on day 1, is not dismissed by choice or damage until day 5 and is then damaged into dismissal, can the Summoner perform the ritual to resummon immediately, or does the Summoner need to wait 24 hours from time of dismissal?
3) Does the ritual for summoning the Eidolon require Verbal and/or Somatic components?

I am fairly sure:

1) Eidolons do not need to eat

2) Whenever the Eidolon is damaged into dismissal, you need to wait 24 hrs. If, however, you dismiss it at 1hp, you may then re-summon it.

3) Both

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Mirror, Mirror wrote:
Mikhaila Burnett wrote:

1) Do Eidolons need to eat?

2) If an Eidolon is summoned on day 1, is not dismissed by choice or damage until day 5 and is then damaged into dismissal, can the Summoner perform the ritual to resummon immediately, or does the Summoner need to wait 24 hours from time of dismissal?
3) Does the ritual for summoning the Eidolon require Verbal and/or Somatic components?

I am fairly sure:

1) Eidolons do not need to eat

2) Whenever the Eidolon is damaged into dismissal, you need to wait 24 hrs. If, however, you dismiss it at 1hp, you may then re-summon it.

3) Both

Hmm, well these are definitely things I'd like to see explicit in the rules as they are very loose and subject to interpretation right now.

As for 2, however, I thought that if an Eidolon was dismissed intentionally that would also trip the 24 hour recycle period? I'm at work so I can't check and be sure though.


Mikhaila Burnett wrote:
As for 2, however, I thought that if an Eidolon was dismissed intentionally that would also trip the 24 hour recycle period? I'm at work so I can't check and be sure though.

It specifies that if dismissed due to damage, it cannot be resummoned untim the next day. However, with that language, I'm also fairly sure you should be able to re-summon it if it were dismissed or banished, since those do not cause damage.

It takes a standard action to unsummon the Eidolon.

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Mirror, Mirror wrote:


It specifies that if dismissed due to damage, it cannot be resummoned untim the next day. However, with that language, I'm also fairly sure you should be able to re-summon it if it were dismissed or banished, since those do not cause damage.

It takes a standard action to unsummon the Eidolon.

Yeesh! I hope that's a bit more clearly worded in the final, there's a lot of wiggle room there.

Now that does of course bring me to the 1 minute summoning time. For a character that doesn't run around with their Eidolon up (I see a lot of RP reasons why someone wouldn't want an Obviously Supernatural Creature following them everywhere) the 1 minute to summon opens a lot of room for PC's getting ambushed without their Eidolons.

From an RP perspective, it's very rare that the PC will know that combat's about to start unless they're in an obviously dangerous area.

I do think that an extended summoning is needed, but I'm not sure 1 minute is the way to go.

Just my tuppence there.

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If your eidolon eats my familiar, then disappears, how can I get Fluffy's corpse back to resurrect it?

If Fluffy's mangled corpse is dropped on the floor when the eidolon disappears, how does the summoner deal with the uncomfortable faux pas of dismissing his eidolon at the duchess's ball, only to have a pile of gore drop onto the carpet?

If you get your eidolon to eat a bunch of baking soda then follow it with a chaser of vinegar, does it belch? Why or why not?


1 minute summoning time is perfect.

It makes it a very simple matter to summon it out of combat, but extremely unlikely to be unsummoned and resummoned at full HP during combat.

I think that as long as you have the option to dismiss it during combat, there needs to be a significant cast time on the resummon.

-S


As an outsider, the eidolon would not need to eat. Link.

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The question isn't "need to" but "Could it?"


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
The question isn't "need to" but "Could it?"

Do balors eat puppies/babies as hor'dourves at holiday parties?

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Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
The question isn't "need to" but "Could it?"
Outsider Traits wrote:
• Outsiders breathe, but do not need to eat or sleep (although they can do so if they wish). Native outsiders breathe, eat, and sleep.

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