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Seems to me that this would be a popular multi-class. It may hurt your smite evil/spell/lay on hands progression or what not, but from an RP/Flavor point of view, the classes seem to mesh quite a bit. I can easily see a Paladin of Iomedae/Cavalier of the Order of the Sword for example. Now to convince my dm to allow me to do it...
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Now the question is does the multiclass get multiple mounts? Or do the mount abilities stack to any extent? (A pal 5, cav 1 is treated as a 4th level druid for animal companion stats)
Did you mean 6th? I believe the classes would stack their levels for that particular ability... but it doesn't explicitly state that in the description...
The animal companion entry states:
"Class Level: This is the character’s druid level. The druid’s class levels stack with levels of any other classes that are entitled to an animal companion for the purpose of determining the companion’s statistics."
And both abilities say to treat the class as having a druid level equal to the class level. So I think RAW they stack( as the description says all classes that add levels to animal companions stack )
Seems to me that this would be a popular multi-class. It may hurt your smite evil/spell/lay on hands progression or what not, but from an RP/Flavor point of view, the classes seem to mesh quite a bit. I can easily see a Paladin of Iomedae/Cavalier of the Order of the Sword for example. Now to convince my dm to allow me to do it...
For me, this is a BIG reason to eliminate the Cavalier's mount as a "special" mount. Perhaps give the Cavalier some mounted bonuses or bonus mounted feats. Our group has already had enough confusion with Leadership/Paladin/Mounts.
Seems to me that this would be a popular multi-class. It may hurt your smite evil/spell/lay on hands progression or what not, but from an RP/Flavor point of view, the classes seem to mesh quite a bit. I can easily see a Paladin of Iomedae/Cavalier of the Order of the Sword for example. Now to convince my dm to allow me to do it...For me, this is a BIG reason to eliminate the Cavalier's mount as a "special" mount. Perhaps give the Cavalier some mounted bonuses or bonus mounted feats. Our group has already had enough confusion with Leadership/Paladin/Mounts.
Why exactly is this a reason to eliminate the feature? Whats wrong with 2 classes working well in one aspect, when multiclassed? You still lose lots of other things from both classes, like smites, lay on hands progression, challenge increase, order abilities, mercies. All of these would be less then what a full progression in either class would be. Whats the big deal with having a full strength mount?
The nature of the multi-class actually infers that some abilities working in concert could be incredibly effective. I, myself, played a barbarian 5, rogue 3 to devastating effect.
I could definately see a budding cavalier developing faith and becoming a paladin. Seems like a good story idea to me :)
Are you saying that the idea of the classes being effective as multi-class is somehow problematic, or just pointing out the fact that they work well?
Why exactly is this a reason to eliminate the feature? Whats wrong with 2 classes working well in one aspect, when multiclassed? You still lose lots of other things from both classes, like smites, lay on hands progression, challenge increase, order abilities, mercies. All of these would be less then what a full progression in either class would be. Whats the big deal with having a full strength mount?Seems to me that this would be a popular multi-class. It may hurt your smite evil/spell/lay on hands progression or what not, but from an RP/Flavor point of view, the classes seem to mesh quite a bit. I can easily see a Paladin of Iomedae/Cavalier of the Order of the Sword for example. Now to convince my dm to allow me to do it...For me, this is a BIG reason to eliminate the Cavalier's mount as a "special" mount. Perhaps give the Cavalier some mounted bonuses or bonus mounted feats. Our group has already had enough confusion with Leadership/Paladin/Mounts.
Sorry Kolokotroni, that was a "knee-jerk" statement with no explanation, and was a digression from the OP. Plus, I sort of quoted the wrong post. My comment was in response to the remark about whether the Paladin mount stacks with the Cavalier mount. Perhaps those of us in my group are just dim, but we've had plenty of discussion & debate over how companion features from multiple classes stack; especially in combination with Leadership. Dealing with that has left a bit of a sour taste in our mouths.
Now, to actually expand on my previous comment, there's nothing wrong in principle with two classes that have compatible features when multiclassed (Ranger & Druid for example). The first part of what I think is that the Cavalier's special mount feature is very similar to, but not the same as the Paladin's. It could cause some confusion rules-wise (two mounts or one? is it always able to be summoned/dismissed now? etc).
The second part is more related to flavor. Whereas there's nothing wrong with two classes having similar features, I just think of the Paladin as being "the special mount" class. The fact that the Cavalier has a feature so close only highlights how alike the classes are. The Cavalier kind of comes off as "an also-Paladin," instead of a unique base class in that way. So, I was chiming in on what others have already posted in other threads about the possibility of altering the Cavalier's mount features (I shouldn't have said eliminate). Perhaps the class has amazing skill with all mounts, or just bonus mounted feats.
I hope that explains my kind of jerky comment, and sorry Draeke for sidetracking the thread. I agree that a Cavalier/Paladin would make a logical multiclass (similar to Knight/Paladins) and probably pretty tough. Challenge + Smite, similar mounts abilities, Order flavor.