Cavalier, adding some flexibility.


Round 1: Cavalier and Oracle

Scarab Sages

So just a few options that jumped to mind, please feel free to chime in with your own, to add some of the flexibility which other base classes have to the Cavalier.

Oh, and yes I think the Orders are pretty good for that, but most other base classes have multipule options.

Tactical or Morale Choice: You choose your Int or Chr bonus to use for your various bonuses. This also makes the class potentially more disimilar to the paladin.

Charge as a Combat Style: This increases lateral compatability with the ranger, and expansions for that class. If you add another option such as 'standing ground' fighting style, with new feat and feat equivalencies, you have also made a move to increase flexibility.


DivineAspect wrote:

So just a few options that jumped to mind, please feel free to chime in with your own, to add some of the flexibility which other base classes have to the Cavalier.

Oh, and yes I think the Orders are pretty good for that, but most other base classes have multipule options.

Tactical or Morale Choice: You choose your Int or Chr bonus to use for your various bonuses. This also makes the class potentially more disimilar to the paladin.

Charge as a Combat Style: This increases lateral compatability with the ranger, and expansions for that class. If you add another option such as 'standing ground' fighting style, with new feat and feat equivalencies, you have also made a move to increase flexibility.

I know this isnt likely to happen but I would also like to see a choice between the mount and something else. I realize that the cavalier is supposed to be a mounted combat focused soldier, but the mount is a potent part of the cavalier's abilities, and to have it potentially excluded from a large portion of adventures leaves the same problem the old paladin had. Certainly the mounted combat bonuses should remain, but the mount ability itself could be a choice between that and something else? Perhaps the service of a squire[read: cohort/hireling]? The cavalier could still (and should) own a normal warhorse, but allowing an option that can follow you into the tavern/dungeon would be nice.

Scarab Sages

Kolokotroni wrote:


I know this isnt likely to happen but I would also like to see a choice between the mount and something else. I realize that the cavalier is supposed to be a mounted combat focused soldier, but the mount is a potent part of the cavalier's abilities, and to have it potentially excluded from a large portion of adventures leaves the same problem the old paladin had. Certainly the mounted combat bonuses should remain, but the mount ability itself could be a choice between that and something else? Perhaps the service of a squire[read: cohort/hireling]? The cavalier could still (and should) own a normal warhorse, but allowing an option that can follow you into the tavern/dungeon would be nice.

Maybe something that benefits your allies with your oaths instead? This seems to parallel the Ranger. Those Oaths are nice, and then the party wouldn't be so irritated by your limitations. Plus, you could call the feature Chivalry, using the not horseman sense, and have it still thematically fit.


I second this...an alternative to the mounted feature, like the paladin/druid/wizard have. I also like the cohort idea...


does anyone think a warrior of the Cavaliers level would be too strong compared to the animal companion mount? I was thinking the second option could be a squire who is a level 1 commoner at 1st level, and then gainst a level of warrior each time the cavalier levels up. Possible allow expert or warrior?

Scarab Sages

Kolokotroni wrote:
does anyone think a warrior of the Cavaliers level would be too strong compared to the animal companion mount? I was thinking the second option could be a squire who is a level 1 commoner at 1st level, and then gainst a level of warrior each time the cavalier levels up. Possible allow expert or warrior?

I wouldn't consider it unbalanced.

On some other Thread someone suggested having a Cavalier be able to wring extraordinary results from any mount they ride, rather then a bonding thing. That would also create a lot of flexibility, without the fear of the Horse getting killed, as will inevitably happen.

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