David Fryer |
And I didn't mean to discriminate against Mormons... well maybe kinda, but only because they have a long history of discrimination.
Oh s~@&... I'm getting drawn in...
Okay, not to get into th politics or history of it, because it is pretty clear that they have not been anmore discriminaory than any other groups in the United States at the same time, but ar you really saying it's okay to discriminate against people if you think they started it?
Spunky Leper |
Gark the Goblin wrote:David Fryer wrote:It may not have been dreamed up by the internet, which is an inanimate object which can not dream or imagine anyway, but it certainly is wacky because is does the very thing you initally accused me of, rewrites history.Well, the electricity that makes up the internet moves, and files and stuff move, so I don't think it's an inanimate object.Aha, that Librul Ben Franklin invented the Internet then! Your secrets are revealed, SeekritDanBrownSmvrfKonspeeracyKabal!
!dronf
It's been too long on this thread without a smurf (maybe never, I'm too lazy to check).
Ambrosia Slaad |
Tranquilis wrote:...As a scientist myself, I find "global warming concern" to be a sad hysteria that _has_ been used by certain greedy parties to their own benefit - usually by preying on the good intentions of other scientists and the public in general, but also using "useful idiots" in academia, government, business and the entertainment industry....You're seriously serious? Really?
Doesn't the increase in infrared-blocking greenhouse gasses make the surface warmer? How does this science not check out?
OK, for a moment, I'll ignore all the evidence for how man is negatively disrupting global climate systems. Even without that, how can any scientist ignore all the evidence about all that pollution getting pumped into the air and then filtered through fauna and flora? Or is the biosphere an open system that can continue to act as a dumping ground for all that crap?
{hides SeekritKabal tattoo}
Set |
Set wrote:Hey, I said I had gotten it from somebody else, I just couldn't remember who had said it.David Fryer wrote:You want to here a great conspiracy theory? I heard that they intentionally made the second X-Files movie suck so that Fringe would seem good by comparison.That's my conspiracy theory! Thief!
I'll just have to invent a new X-Files related conspiracy!
Remember that episode of Lone Gunmen (the X-File spin-off about the three conspiracy nuts, hey topic!) where they foiled a plot to fly an airplane into the World Trade Center, and then, years later, on Fox News, administration officials were shown over and over saying, 'Nobody could have anticipated that someone would fly an airplane into the World Trade Center!'
Yeah. Chris Carter, in cahoots with Rupert Murdoch, is the elusive 'nobody' that was behind 9/11!
You heard it here first!
David Fryer |
David Fryer wrote:Set wrote:Hey, I said I had gotten it from somebody else, I just couldn't remember who had said it.David Fryer wrote:You want to here a great conspiracy theory? I heard that they intentionally made the second X-Files movie suck so that Fringe would seem good by comparison.That's my conspiracy theory! Thief!
I'll just have to invent a new X-Files related conspiracy!
Remember that episode of Lone Gunmen (the X-File spin-off about the three conspiracy nuts, hey topic!) where they foiled a plot to fly an airplane into the World Trade Center, and then, years later, on Fox News, administration officials were shown over and over saying, 'Nobody could have anticipated that someone would fly an airplane into the World Trade Center!'
Yeah. Chris Carter, in cahoots with Rupert Murdoch, is the elusive 'nobody' that was behind 9/11!
You heard it here first!
You forgot Tom Clancy. He's in that conspiracy too. In one of his books, Japanese terrorists flew a 747 into the capital building during the State of the Union address.
Set |
You forgot Tom Clancy. He's in that conspiracy too. In one of his books, Japanese terrorists flew a 747 into the capital building during the State of the Union address.
[Monty Burns] Exxxcellent! [/Monty Burns]
The conspiracy grows!
There was also a White Wolf book that mentioned a Sabbat plot to fly a plane into an Elysium, but I'm not sure if adding Justin Achilli to the conspiracy would be a step too far.
I wouldn't want to come off as crazy...
David Fryer |
The thing that always bugged me about the nobody could imgine meme is th in 1994 some idiot actualy succeeded in crashing a plane into the White House.
Ambrosia Slaad |
The thing that always bugged me about the nobody could imgine meme is th in 1994 some idiot actualy succeeded in crashing a plane into the White House.
They crashed a B-25 into the Empire State Building too... in 1945.
Samnell |
They crashed a B-25 into the Empire State Building too... in 1945.
At least that one was an accident. But "nobody could have imagined" is usually codespeak for "We were explicitly warned and everybody saw it coming, but we chose to ignore it for no particularly good or compelling reason. Please don't demand accountability."
Ambrosia Slaad |
But "nobody could have imagined" is usually codespeak for "We were explicitly warned and everybody saw it coming, but we chose to ignore it for no particularly good or compelling reason. Please don't demand accountability."
Or "That guy who kept warning about this kinda thing happening? Yeah we had to fire him. He kept upsetting everyone with his warnings; it was bad for team morale."
Or "Yeah we coulda decoded that intel faster, but we had to fire a buncha translators. It couldn't be helped... they had the ghey; it was bad for team morale."
Patrick Curtin |
Or "Yeah we coulda decoded that intel faster, but we had to fire a buncha translators. It couldn't be helped... they had the ghey; it was bad for team morale."
I've seen this little meme go about, so I'm just gonna post a bit on it. Not to defend the 'don't ask don't tell' policies the US Army has in place, but I WAS one of those translators (or at least I was training to be one). I lost my security clearance, but that isn't germaine to the point. The point is is that there were plenty of gay people in that program.
The Army didn't actively look for them, i.e. the 'don't ask' part. A lot of gay folks used their sexual orientation as a 'get out of jail free' card. I had a personal friend who was a lesbian who decided she didn't want to be in the Army anymore who did this. You can't honestly blame the Army when someone declares they are gay to get a free discharge. And yes, if you decide to publicly proclaim you are gay, you are violating the 'don't tell' part.
That program was hard, with about a 70% failure rate. Still, in 1995 when I went, they were cranking out Arabic translators on a pretty high level, so it wasn't like there weren't any. It also required a Top Secret security clearance, and if you lied about anything you got the boot.
Looking at the available Googled stories to back my claims up, I cannot find one linguist who didn't openly declare they were gay before being let go. Whether they like the policy or not, they knew what the policy was before they signed on. You can go on to have a long successful career in the military and be gay as long as you don't announce your sexual orientation on TV. That forces the Army to do something, and until the Commander in Chief (at this point Barrack Obama, who could pull the fangs on this legislature without even going to Congress >HufPo article link<) decides to get this repealed, the Army HAS to adhere to it. The Army doesn't set this policy, the legislature does.
You wanna blame lack of intel, b!tch to Clinton about his restrictive regulations vis-a-vis the CIA's intel gathering. Plus 'don't ask, don't tell' was his baby.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
So, I recorded a program on the History Channel called "Secrets of the Dollar Bill" because I thought, huh, there's a lot of nutty stuff about the dollar bill, maybe this will be interesting and explain the truth behind the conspiracy theory nonsense.
Damn, was I wrong.
The whole show was nothing but conspiracy theory nonsense. My favorite part was how they kept harping on the repeated use of the number 13 in the dollar bill (there are 13 stars above the eagle, 13 arrows in its foot, 13 stripes on the banner) and suggested that it was because the number 13 was an important number for the Freemasons (oh yeah, and SATAN!!!).
Now, I'm no historian, but it seems to me like the number 13 was significant at the time of the founding of the nation for other reasons. Huh...what could I possibly be thinking about...why would the number 13 be an important symbol at that time in American history...
BECAUSE THERE WERE 13 F+!&ING COLONIES YOU MORONS.
And, of course, there's the whole question of why a super secret conspiracy needed to put puzzles in the dollar bill proving their existence. Seems to me to run contrary to the purpose of your secret conspiracy to provide clues as to its existence in a symbol that will be held and interacted with by the entire population of the country on a routine basis.
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |
I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately. Smithsonian Channel is much better.
Yeah, they have too many speculative b#$+#$@+ shows about ghosts/aliens/conspiracy theories. I like Life After People a lot and some of their ancient world documentaries have been okay, but otherwise, there's way too much crap mingled with history.
I don't have the Smithsonian Channel, which is too bad. PBS has the occassional good documentary (and Nova). I saw a really good one about the Appalachian Valley on PBS a few months ago.
David Fryer |
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately. Smithsonian Channel is much better.Yeah, they have too many speculative b!@*%#*% shows about ghosts/aliens/conspiracy theories.
I prefer Syfy for my wierd b##@$~$ needs. I sit on my couch every week stating up the monsters from Destination: Truth.
Samnell |
I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately.
The Hitler Network has been a wasteland for years. They were telling Bible stories and pretending it was a documentary back when I first got it more than a decade ago. That's one of the few fronts that Discovery has actually gotten better on in the interim. Then they developed a bizarre fixation on technology, especially technology that was minimally historical. (Using computers to track artificial insemination in cattle?)
And then I had enough and programmed it out for two or three years when they ran promos for a special on the Middle Ages that described the period as "godless". Which is a bit like calling the Pacific Ocean a dust bowl.
I programmed it back in when asked to watch a special by a friend and discovered that now it's a reality TV station which advertises a show that takes place entirely in Canada, and with virtually all Canadian characters, as an American original with flag-waving fervor.
I remember when you could learn things from The Learning Channel too. And MTV used to show lots of music videos. So did VH-1. Get off my grass!
Miserable Old Bitty |
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately.I remember when you could learn things from The Learning Channel too. And MTV used to show lots of music videos. So did VH-1. Get off my grass!
Little whippersnappers. When I was a girl, I would turn on MTV and it was just a nun yelling at me for having a skirt that didn't conceal my ankle. Now it's nothing but SMUT!
I blame that little tart, Judy Garland.
Samnell |
Little whippersnappers. When I was a girl, I would turn on MTV and it was just a nun yelling at me for having a skirt that didn't conceal my ankle. Now it's nothing but SMUT!
We need more screaming nuns on TV. People in the studio audience could throw water balloons. Wet & Wild Nuns! It's something Nick would have aired circa 1992.
Miserable Old Bitty |
Miserable Old Bitty wrote:Little whippersnappers. When I was a girl, I would turn on MTV and it was just a nun yelling at me for having a skirt that didn't conceal my ankle. Now it's nothing but SMUT!We need more screaming nuns on TV. People in the studio audience could throw water balloons. Wet & Wild Nuns! It's something Nick would have aired circa 1992.
Filth!
*stabs Samnell in the leg with a knitting needle*
Crimson Jester |
Sebastian wrote:I prefer Syfy for my wierd b@*#@#% needs. I sit on my couch every week stating up the monsters from Destination: Truth.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately. Smithsonian Channel is much better.Yeah, they have too many speculative b!@*%#*% shows about ghosts/aliens/conspiracy theories.
Post those please. Destination Truth is such a fun show especially when they guy claims to be a werewolf gets on all fours and starts foaming at the mouth and the host is trying so hard not to laugh!
Adam Daigle Director of Narrative |
David Fryer |
David Fryer wrote:Post those please. Destination Truth is such a fun show especially when they guy claims to be a werewolf gets on all fours and starts foaming at the mouth and the host is trying so hard not to laugh!Sebastian wrote:I prefer Syfy for my wierd b@*#@#% needs. I sit on my couch every week stating up the monsters from Destination: Truth.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately. Smithsonian Channel is much better.Yeah, they have too many speculative b!@*%#*% shows about ghosts/aliens/conspiracy theories.
I'll post some tomorrow up in the homebrew. The problem is that I stop working when the show is over, so most are only half done.
Studpuffin |
Studpuffin wrote:Read it, but never really bought into it. I find it insulting to humans to say that we could not do that stuff on our own.
Anybody here buy into the Chariots of the Gods?
Agreed. Besides, I don't believe we couldn't have built a pyramid. It is, after all, only a giant pile of rocks. It even has the natural shape of a pile. Sheesh.
David Fryer |
David Fryer wrote:I find it insulting to humans to say that we could not do that stuff on our own.That's exactly why I don't believe in alien visitation.
Oh I believe that aliens can and might visit Earth, in the same way that anthropologists study tribes in the Congo and the Amazon.
Shadowborn |
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately.The Hitler Network has been a wasteland for years. They were telling Bible stories and pretending it was a documentary back when I first got it more than a decade ago. That's one of the few fronts that Discovery has actually gotten better on in the interim. Then they developed a bizarre fixation on technology, especially technology that was minimally historical. (Using computers to track artificial insemination in cattle?)
And then I had enough and programmed it out for two or three years when they ran promos for a special on the Middle Ages that described the period as "godless". Which is a bit like calling the Pacific Ocean a dust bowl.
I programmed it back in when asked to watch a special by a friend and discovered that now it's a reality TV station which advertises a show that takes place entirely in Canada, and with virtually all Canadian characters, as an American original with flag-waving fervor.
I remember when you could learn things from The Learning Channel too. And MTV used to show lots of music videos. So did VH-1. Get off my grass!
You forgot the Arts & Entertainment channel, which used to show programming other than reality shows...
Studpuffin |
Oh man, I can't believe I forgot this one. Anybody ever watch UFO Hunters on History Channel? That show is so funny, jumping to conclusions without any evidence. I laugh my butt off everytime I watch this show. They've got a picture of a man said to be a "man in black" and they test it to make sure its not photoshopped... but that still doesn't mean the man in the photo is actually a "man in black"... just that he's a man dressed in black.
Ha, I love that show.
David Fryer |
Oh man, I can't believe I forgot this one. Anybody ever watch UFO Hunters on History Channel? That show is so funny, jumping to conclusions without any evidence. I laugh my butt off everytime I watch this show. They've got a picture of a man said to be a "man in black" and they test it to make sure its not photoshopped... but that still doesn't mean the man in the photo is actually a "man in black"... just that he's a man dressed in black.
Ha, I love that show.
Those guys are morons. That's the show I was talking about that decided that the Air Force just moved everything from Area 51 to Utah without anyone noticing.
Shadowborn |
Why hasn't anybody told us about the giant mutant beasts attacking Japan?
Good lord! Look at the size of that thing. Now, if it could only fly and shoot beams of amplified light...
David Fryer |
Moorlucky wrote:Why hasn't anybody told us about the giant mutant beasts attacking Japan?Good lord! Look at the size of that thing. Now, if it could only fly and shoot beams of amplified light...
It would be a flumph?
Ambrosia Slaad |
Adam Daigle wrote:Oh I believe that aliens can and might visit Earth, in the same way that anthropologists study tribes in the Congo and the Amazon.David Fryer wrote:I find it insulting to humans to say that we could not do that stuff on our own.That's exactly why I don't believe in alien visitation.
Or like vacation families visiting themeparks.
Shadowborn |
Shadowborn wrote:It would be a flumph?Moorlucky wrote:Why hasn't anybody told us about the giant mutant beasts attacking Japan?Good lord! Look at the size of that thing. Now, if it could only fly and shoot beams of amplified light...
Ooh! Good idea! Scratch the lasers and give it an acid attack.
David Fryer |
David Fryer wrote:Or like vacation families visiting themeparks.Adam Daigle wrote:Oh I believe that aliens can and might visit Earth, in the same way that anthropologists study tribes in the Congo and the Amazon.David Fryer wrote:I find it insulting to humans to say that we could not do that stuff on our own.That's exactly why I don't believe in alien visitation.
The 1901 World's Fair
David Fryer |
David Fryer wrote:Post those please. Destination Truth is such a fun show especially when they guy claims to be a werewolf gets on all fours and starts foaming at the mouth and the host is trying so hard not to laugh!Sebastian wrote:I prefer Syfy for my wierd b@*#@#% needs. I sit on my couch every week stating up the monsters from Destination: Truth.Mairkurion {tm} wrote:I find the HC pretty iffy across the board these days, unfortunately. Smithsonian Channel is much better.Yeah, they have too many speculative b!@*%#*% shows about ghosts/aliens/conspiracy theories.