CR and critters!


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Sczarni

i'm not too sure i understand CR rules about NPC with core class.

What would be the CR for a Kobold level 2 sorcerer => CR 1 or 2?


Vaahama wrote:

i'm not too sure i understand CR rules about NPC with core class.

What would be the CR for a Kobold level 2 sorcerer => CR 1 or 2?

As I've seen in AP's, it would seem to be CR 1. Not sure why, but I think that's part of the Paizo rebuild of the CR system. CR is no longer equal to Class Level (what used to be ECL)

Would be very interested to hear something from one of the devs. *peers about*

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Mikhaila Burnett 313 wrote:
Vaahama wrote:

i'm not too sure i understand CR rules about NPC with core class.

What would be the CR for a Kobold level 2 sorcerer => CR 1 or 2?

As I've seen in AP's, it would seem to be CR 1. Not sure why, but I think that's part of the Paizo rebuild of the CR system. CR is no longer equal to Class Level (what used to be ECL)

Would be very interested to hear something from one of the devs. *peers about*

In the strange world of RPG math, I think it works out to CR 3/4. I have not looked at the Core book in this regard, but in beta the CR of a creature with class levels was clvl-2 if that class was a PC class or clvl-3 if the class was and NPC class. So your CR 1/4 kobold with 2 level of sorcerer would work out to CR 3/4. 2Lvls of sorc-2=CR 1/2 + 1/4 for kobold= CR 3/4. It gets odd because CR 1 -1 = 1/2, while CR 1 - 2 = 1/4 CR1 - 3 = why bother...

Sczarni

The core rulebook says.. from memory... something like this:

"NPCs with PC classes get a CR egal to their level -1 unless they are a race with "hit dice" related CR like giants or trolls!"

I'm i reading it correctly?

Then in this case a level 2 kobold sorcerer would be a CR 1 unless kobolds are "hit diced" (that i'm not sure of) monsters in wich case they would be CR 2.

Sczarni

Ok now i got it.. for those who might be still interested.

The CR for NPCs whose hit dice are only related to core player class equal level -1.

The CR for NPCs whose hit dice are only related to NPC class equal level -2

THAT MEANS

Kobold Sorcerer 3 = CR 2*
Kobold Aristocrat 20 = CR 18*
Troll warrior 10 = CR 9
Troll Barbarian 10 = CR 10

*Assuming kobold don't have racial hit dice wich i'm not sure of at this point with PF.

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