Grognard Pronunciation Question!


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion

101 to 111 of 111 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | 3 | next > last >>

Seabyrn wrote:

Oops, and I argued off into a tangent again....

For pronouncing drow like 'dro' I got nothin'.

Well go find something. I said, "Kind of maybe might" on purpose you know. I never claimed I had the exact right of it. Simply that I remembered a bit of something from when I was first learning English. Scottish Gaelic may have lent some words to the English language, but so did the French language, Latin, German, and several others too. As pointed out earlier by someone else, even the word "bow" is pronounced differently depending on what you are referring too. Does this mean there is no correct or valid rule for enunciating the word "bow"?

Just because exceptions exist doesn't mean that I'm wrong... it simply means there are exceptions.


Abraham spalding wrote:
Seabyrn wrote:

Oops, and I argued off into a tangent again....

For pronouncing drow like 'dro' I got nothin'.

Well go find something. I said, "Kind of maybe might" on purpose you know. I never claimed I had the exact right of it. Simply that I remembered a bit of something from when I was first learning English. Scottish Gaelic may have lent some words to the English language, but so did the French language, Latin, German, and several others too. As pointed out earlier by someone else, even the word "bow" is pronounced differently depending on what you are referring too. Does this mean there is no correct or valid rule for enunciating the word "bow"?

Just because exceptions exist doesn't mean that I'm wrong... it simply means there are exceptions.

Well, certainly I didn't mean to come across as too aggressive in my dismissal of your memory -so I apologize if it came across that way.

All I meant to say was that there was no link between the sounds /dr/ and the pronunciation of /ow/ as in 'cow'. I was not dis-agreeing that 'drow' could (and in my view, should) be pronounced to rhyme with 'cow', but I think there is no basis to say that it should be pronounced that way because of the /dr/ that starts the word.

In my second post (that you quote), I meant that the examples I gave, if anything, suggest that 'drow' could be pronounced 'dru' (in a very archaic or weird Scottish way). But that is irrelevant to the alternate 'dro' that is the issue. (people have already given possible reasons for that - by analogy to 'throw' etc. - so there's no point in me finding more - but none of them start with /dr/ that I could find)

The problem with rules for these cases (like 'bow') is that the spelling system of English is terrible, and really does a poor job of representing the sounds of the language. The sequence of letters -o-w can represent different sounds (each of which in turn can be spelled many different ways) - with absolutely no relationship between them, it's just an accident of history that two words with the same sound in them are spelled differently - or two words with different sounds are spelled the same. This is the case with 'bow'. One can't start with the spelling, make a rule to determine two ways to pronounce it, and then come up with a different meaning depending on how it was pronounced. There are two words, with distinct meanings and pronunciations, that happen to be spelled the same way.

So yes, there is no correct or valid rule for enunciating the word "bow" - the pronunciation is entirely determined by the meaning (just like for any other word - "snake", "dog" etc.).

You're right though, exceptions always exist in language, and an exception would not make you wrong. So show me a pattern that supports the rule - one word does not make a pattern.

(I couldn't find any pattern, and that's why I suspect your memory is off or the teacher was wrong about something - though I did not mean that as a personal attack, just trying to figure out where or how or if the idea might have been garbled).


Wolf Munroe wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
I said this in the last thread where the pronunciation of drow was brought up, but I prefer drow like cow because drow like crow sounds too much like derro.
Super Mario Drows?
I have no idea what point you're making. (Unless there is no point.)

Well, if drow rhymed with low, it would sound weird.

Scarab Sages

So... how *do* you pronounce Paizo?


Paizow... 'cuz I don't want it to sound weird.

The Exchange

drow as in cow is how i do it, but i've heard it plenty of times either way so i'm cool with however anyone says it.

probably the main reason i say it the way i do is so my blood bowl dark elf team's name is funnier - "Apocalypse Drow" :)


Fiendish Dire Weasel wrote:
"Apocalypse Drow" :)

Awesome.


Tom Baumbach wrote:
So... how *do* you pronounce Paizo?

Pie Zoh. Rhymes with Size Ho?

*scampers to make dinner*


Mikhaila Burnett 313 wrote:
Tom Baumbach wrote:
So... how *do* you pronounce Paizo?

Pie Zoh. Rhymes with Size Ho?

*scampers to make dinner*

Pie Zoh..Pie Zoh..It's off to work we go...


KaeYoss wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
I said this in the last thread where the pronunciation of drow was brought up, but I prefer drow like cow because drow like crow sounds too much like derro.
Super Mario Drows?
I have no idea what point you're making. (Unless there is no point.)
Well, if drow rhymed with low, it would sound weird.

I agree with you. So, you're agreeing with me then? Or am I agreeing with what you're saying and you're not agreeing with what I'm saying?

I saw drow so that it rhymes with wow. I don't say drow so that it rhymes with woah, and I don't think it should be pronounced that way because then drow and derro would be one vowel apart. (dro vs. daro).


Wolf Munroe wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
I said this in the last thread where the pronunciation of drow was brought up, but I prefer drow like cow because drow like crow sounds too much like derro.
Super Mario Drows?
I have no idea what point you're making. (Unless there is no point.)
Well, if drow rhymed with low, it would sound weird.

I agree with you. So, you're agreeing with me then? Or am I agreeing with what you're saying and you're not agreeing with what I'm saying?

I saw drow so that it rhymes with wow. I don't say drow so that it rhymes with woah, and I don't think it should be pronounced that way because then drow and derro would be one vowel apart. (dro vs. daro).

I think we just have to agree to agree.

101 to 111 of 111 << first < prev | 1 | 2 | 3 | next > last >>
Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Lost Omens Campaign Setting / General Discussion / Grognard Pronunciation Question! All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.