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Male Human Student (5)

Alright, well the recruitment went by quickly, so let's head right into the discussion thread! This thread will be used for primarily out-of-game discussion as well as character creation.

Speaking of character creation, here are the guidelines:

  • Characters will begin at 1st level with 0 XP.
  • Ability scores will be generated by a 20 point buy (as detailed here)
  • All classes and races in the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook as written are fine.
  • In addition, races detailed in the Pathfinder Preview Bestiary are available. These include the Goblin, Tengu, and Tiefling races.
  • Furthermore, Tieflings could qualify for alternate traits and potentially some feats according to the Tiefling article in PF#25.
  • Characters get to choose one trait from the Character Traits Web Enhancement as well as one Campaign Trait from the Council of Thieves Player's Guide.
  • Please indicate in this thread which traits you choose for my records.

As soon as all characters are created and audited by me, we'll get to start gaming! If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! :)

Rules of the game:

  • As mentioned in the connection thread, players are expected to post at least once per day in order to keep a quick pace to the game. If you don't post for a day at a crucial time, you will be NPC'd.
  • Please post all rolls you make. Invisible Castle is ideal for this.
  • There may be some changes to the rules or adventure for the sake of game speed.
  • Above all else, have fun!


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

humm so what do we have so far?

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When we complete our characters and their backgrounds, should we post them here or email them to you?

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Male Human Student (5)
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
humm so what do we have so far?

I don't think anyone's set in stone yet, but the majority of the roles are covered. We've got a mage/rogue, a monk or barbarian, paladin, wizard and cleric, though all these could potentially change.

Truly, with a seven-person group, you'll be helping no matter which class you play, so I suggest you follow your heart.

thrikreed wrote:
When we complete our characters and their backgrounds, should we post them here or email them to you?

I suggest you create a new avatar for this PbP, and then you can keep track of your stats using that avatar's profile. That way it will be easy to check up on and modify if necessary!

Anyway, I'm off to bed now, but I'll check up on this thread when I wake up tomorrow. I'm getting excited about this, folks! :)

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
humm so what do we have so far?

Dave Young 992 - Mage/Rogue multiclass

Kobold Cleaver - Non-human Monk or Barbarian?

taig - Paladin?

Davi The Eccentric - Human Wizard

Warforged Gardner - Cleric

Thrikreed - Undecided.

Seekerofshadowlight - Undecided.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

humm I may go druid, not sure of anything at this time but the name which I am reusing


I think we should all play bards. 7 bards! It's always a party with bards! :-)


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Well in games right now I am playing. A barbarian, A bard, and A druid

I am leaning toward monk now. But not one trained by an order


I might play a fighter. Someone wanted to play a rogue, and I'm not that picky, really. In a party of 7, a bard makes sense, but if no one wants to, it's no big deal.

I'll play "Biff," human fighter! Straight-up, old school, sword and board, heavy-armored, slow-moving hack-and-slasher. I'm kinda curious, after all the discussions, how the new fighter really plays out. If all goes well, we might level up a bit and get a good look at the class in play.

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Dave Young 992 wrote:

I might play a fighter. Someone wanted to play a rogue, and I'm not that picky, really. In a party of 7, a bard makes sense, but if no one wants to, it's no big deal.

I'll play "Biff," human fighter! Straight-up, old school, sword and board, heavy-armored, slow-moving hack-and-slasher. I'm kinda curious, after all the discussions, how the new fighter really plays out. If all goes well, we might level up a bit and get a good look at the class in play.

I think I'm going to go straight rogue then... So current party composition sounds like:

Dave Young 992 - Fighter?
Kobold Cleaver - Non-human Monk (maybe Barbarian)?
taig - Paladin?
Davi The Eccentric - Human Wizard?
Warforged Gardner - Cleric
Thrikreed - Half-Elf Rogue?
Seekerofshadowlight - Druid?


Female Human,Cheliax Monk 1

No I will go monk not druid , he is a start on her

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Male Human Student (5)

And here I was hoping the party of seven bards would happen... ;)


Nameless wrote:
And here I was hoping the party of seven bards would happen... ;)

We could all be dwarves. That's iconic!


Male Tiefling Wizard 5
Dave Young 992 wrote:
Nameless wrote:
And here I was hoping the party of seven bards would happen... ;)
We could all be dwarves. That's iconic!

"What? What kind of buffoon would want to be a dwarf?"

Don't worry, still working on my sheet.


Zareth Edemont wrote:
Dave Young 992 wrote:
Nameless wrote:
And here I was hoping the party of seven bards would happen... ;)
We could all be dwarves. That's iconic!

"What? What kind of buffoon would want to be a dwarf?"

Don't worry, still working on my sheet.

Dwarven bards. Maxed out for Perform: whistling.

We'd freakin' RULE!


Female Kobold
Zareth Edemont wrote:
Dave Young 992 wrote:
Nameless wrote:
And here I was hoping the party of seven bards would happen... ;)
We could all be dwarves. That's iconic!

"What? What kind of buffoon would want to be a dwarf?"

Don't worry, still working on my sheet.

If you refer to what I think you refer to (though you may not), then it's 'jerk' not 'buffoon'. If you have not watch UR, though, then nevermind.

I'd like to be a goblin barbarian, if that's alright. Though he keeps his race hidden, and speaks well enough to pass for a slightly feral gnome.


Male Tiefling Wizard 5
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
If you refer to what I think you refer to (though you may not), then it's 'jerk' not 'buffoon'. If you have not watch UR, though, then nevermind.

"You're quite right, we're referring to completely different things. Dwarves are simply a race of fools with an unnatural lust for soil. Now, some of my compatriots are the same way with devils, but that's really their fault for forgetting who controls who."


Male Tengu Cleric 1
Kobold Cleaver wrote:


I'd like to be a goblin barbarian, if that's alright. Though he keeps his race hidden, and speaks well enough to pass for a slightly feral gnome.

Any interest in a shared background? Bestial races like us have to stick together in Cheliax. = ) I'm thinking of picking up the Firebrand trait, maybe that's how we met?


Male Tiefling Wizard 5

I'm now done with everything but equipment, statting out the various critters I'm going to be summoning and a background. First two shouldn't be that hard, but the player's guide has an unfortunate case of not-saying-that-much-about-the-actual-city. Would you be kind enough to post a bit of information about Westcrown itself?


Female Goblin Ranger 1
Rakless wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:


I'd like to be a goblin barbarian, if that's alright. Though he keeps his race hidden, and speaks well enough to pass for a slightly feral gnome.
Any interest in a shared background? Bestial races like us have to stick together in Cheliax. = ) I'm thinking of picking up the Firebrand trait, maybe that's how we met?

You're a kenku, or a kobold? Nice.

And sure. Though the fact that she is a goblin is a well-kept secret.
I am thinking that barbarian may not work, though. Perhaps a ranger instead?
I'll take Fencer and Conspiracy Hunter (Sense Motive).
EDIT: Ah, you're a Tengu.


Male Tengu Cleric 1

For my Traits, I'll select Conspiracy Hunter(Stealth) and Dangerously Curious. A perfect combination for a Tengu.


Male Tengu Cleric 1

Hmm...I may need to change my armor. What you're wearing counts toward your encumbrance, right?

EDIT: Switched to lighter armor. I really need to watch this sort of thing...a lot of players in my group must have gotten away with carrying more than their limit, never realized how little you could carry at basic strength.

Everything's done except spell list and some equipment. Would it be okay to scribe some scrolls with what's left of my gold? I can afford the cost of some more items, just not the encumbrance, so scribing some extra cure and utility seems a better way to spend my money.


Female Human,Cheliax Monk 1

I am going monk, maybe not the most combat effective I can be as I like to make the pc fit the background.

So far what I have is she is the 3rd child of a minor noble or merchant, trained by a privet master. She just went kinda all bodyguard. Has some sociable skills but no real cha as she is a bit intense and never really lets her guard down.

The stats are still being tinkered with so this is not final

KC what is it with your and odd races :)


Male Tengu Cleric 1
Tenzekil Brushketel wrote:


And sure. Though the fact that she is a goblin is a well-kept secret.
I am thinking that barbarian may not work, though. Perhaps a ranger instead?
I'll take Fencer and Conspiracy Hunter (Sense Motive).
EDIT: Ah, you're a Tengu.

You could be a Finesse-Fighting Ranger, although part of the fun of Rangers is that they don't worry about prereqs when they pick up their combat feats, so you could focus on strength for a Two-Weapon Fighter and less on dexterity... just a thought.


Biff the human fighter's all done. A couple questions. I got a new alias (Biff Swordnboard), but I don't know how to use it as my name in the game, if that's possible.

Should that space be used for all the other info, too, like feats, equipment, etc?


http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2243451/

Now, how does this work?


Male Humanoid Lurker 1/ Nerd 1
Dave Young 992 wrote:

Biff the human fighter's all done. A couple questions. I got a new alias (Biff Swordnboard), but I don't know how to use it as my name in the game, if that's possible.

Should that space be used for all the other info, too, like feats, equipment, etc?

You know the drop-down menu under the post area? Just choose the alias you want to post under. Also, yes you probably should put your stats in your alias.

His rolls. The BBC codes are under the spoiler under the posting area next to the alias menu.

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Male Human Student (5)

Alright, it looks like character creation is going swimmingly so far! I should point out, in case it comes up, that everyone gets maximum starting gold at 1st level (assuming that starting gold is still random in the Pathfinder RPG; I've yet to take a good, long look at the rulebook).

So, now, we need to work on background! I'm not asking for a novel, here, but I'd like to know a bit about your character's history. Where were you born? Were you educated? Who was your family? Any significant events occur to make you who you are? What made you decide to become an adventurer? Lastly, how did you get to the city of Westcrown?

You can put all this info in your avatar's profile so that I can access it more easily! If all goes well, I should be auditing characters tomorrow and we might even get started before the weekend rolls around!

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Male Human Student (5)
Dave Young 992 wrote:

Biff the human fighter's all done. A couple questions. I got a new alias (Biff Swordnboard), but I don't know how to use it as my name in the game, if that's possible.

Should that space be used for all the other info, too, like feats, equipment, etc?

Dave, I'm fine with you using the classic fighter to see how he stacks up, but I wonder if you could change his name to something that fits into the game world more easily. I've never heard of the Swordnboard family before. ;)

You've got until you make 10 posts to change your alias name, so you should be able to do so now. Thanks! :)


1d20+4=10

Hmm.

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Male Human Student (5)
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

If you refer to what I think you refer to (though you may not), then it's 'jerk' not 'buffoon'. If you have not watch UR, though, then nevermind.

I'd like to be a goblin barbarian, if that's alright. Though he keeps his race hidden, and speaks well enough to pass for a slightly feral gnome.

Goblin barbarian is totally fine, though I expect you to take some ranks in disguise to keep your race a secret! Of course, hiding your features will give you a circumstance bonus...

I like the idea, I'm interested to see where this goes... :)

EDIT: I see you've changed to ranger... That's all well and good.

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Male Human Student (5)
Rakless wrote:

Hmm...I may need to change my armor. What you're wearing counts toward your encumbrance, right?

EDIT: Switched to lighter armor. I really need to watch this sort of thing...a lot of players in my group must have gotten away with carrying more than their limit, never realized how little you could carry at basic strength.

Everything's done except spell list and some equipment. Would it be okay to scribe some scrolls with what's left of my gold? I can afford the cost of some more items, just not the encumbrance, so scribing some extra cure and utility seems a better way to spend my money.

Clothing does not count towards encumbrance, but everything else does. Note that some items weight less for smaller characters.

If you have extra gold, you're definitely welcome to scribe some scrolls, and if you can't carry them with you, you can keep them stashed wherever it is you're staying (inn/apartment or what have you).

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

When I get home tonight, I'll check out the player's guide to make sure playing a paladin won't derail things. If a paladin won't work, then I will play a bard.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Nameless

Spoiler:
I know your doing rules as written but is there any chance I can change her monk weapons about? The Asian stuff just seems kinda left field.There was a couple of alt versions in a dragon for non Asian monks and was wondering if I could use something like that. Nothing powerful or anything just something more in theme with someone trained in westcrown

The 3 listed in the dragon were
*Ghurka:loose kama,nunchku,sai, shurikan and siangham...gain kukri,short sword and short bow..can fob with kukri, short sword and club
*Arnis"Loose kama,nunchku,sai, shurikan and siangham...gain short sword,longsword and whip can fob with club,dagger, quarterstaff and shortsword
*Krabi-Krabong: loose kama,nunchku,sai, shurikan and siangham...gain all sheilds, shortsword, spear and shortspear and fob with shortsword, short spear and spear, club and quarterstaff

Anyhow just listed them as ideals.


Nameless wrote:
You've got until you make 10 posts to change your alias name, so you should be able to do so now. Thanks! :)

He is now Benicio Del Espada. Couldn't edit it, so I started a new avatar. Now to figure out how to play.

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Male Human Student (5)
taig wrote:
When I get home tonight, I'll check out the player's guide to make sure playing a paladin won't derail things. If a paladin won't work, then I will play a bard.

A paladin will work; I'm willing to let paladins have a slight moral grey area, so if you're doing something for the greater good (within reason), I won't make you lose your abilities. There is more information in the player's guide, IIRC, though.

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Male Human Student (5)
Zareth Edemont wrote:
I'm now done with everything but equipment, statting out the various critters I'm going to be summoning and a background. First two shouldn't be that hard, but the player's guide has an unfortunate case of not-saying-that-much-about-the-actual-city. Would you be kind enough to post a bit of information about Westcrown itself?

A little about Westcrown!

Westcrown is a city in many ways like real-world Venice, Italy. Geographically, the city is rife with canals, particularly on the main island in the centre of the city. Historically, Westcrown was the capital of Cheliax, it was once the City of Nine Stars and the seat of the great god Aroden's faith. When he died around one hundred years before the beginning of this adventure, the nation of Cheliax fell into disarray and adopted devil-worship. Eventually, the country's capital was moved inland to Egorian, where the Thrice-Damned House of Thrune controls the power of the nation.

After losing its God and its seat of power, Westcrown lost much of its former glory. It became known as the City of Twilight, and the occurrence of social problems began to grow. Violence and crime increased, and while the city remains an economic force to be reckoned with, the days where Westcrown competed with Absalom as one of the world's premiere economic centres are clearly gone.

Startlingly, a few years back, people began disappearing off the streets at night, and it was soon discovered that beasts from the realms of shadow would prowl the streets at night, killing those who stumbled into the darkness. Today, the dottari (the city's equivalent to a police force) maintain the peace and keep the main streets lit at night to avoid the worst of these creatures, but a curfew is still in place forbidding citizens from staying outside their homes after darkness falls.

Another problem are the hellknights, who follow the laws of the land to the letter and have no room for any interpretation. The fact that they represent the nation's power means that they are able to go over the dottari's heads, which the local constabulatory is not particularly fond of.

Finally, while the city has many problems, it still remains one of the world's leading cultural centres. Plays, operas, concerts, and other artistic events occur regularly, and even though an entire section of town has fallen into ruin and disarray, there is still much beauty to be seen in the once great City of Nine Stars.

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Male Human Student (5)
seekerofshadowlight wrote:

Nameless

** spoiler omitted **

Seeker, I've never been a big fan of the Asian theme for the Monk as well, especially when being used in a European-like setting like Cheliax. Of the three options presented, I like the first one the best, but I'm not a fan of the Short Bow as a special monk weapon; it just doesn't feel right to me. Do you want to stick with it, or is there something more appropriate you think you could replace it with?

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Male Human Student (5)
Dave Young 992 wrote:
He is now Benicio Del Espada. Couldn't edit it, so I started a new avatar. Now to figure out how to play.

Awesome, Dave! So, as for how to play, you seem to have already figured out the die rolling from Invisible Castle, which is great.

To post with your newly created avatar, next time you write a post, just underneath the area where you write your post is a small drop-down box with 'Post As' written next to it. Click on the drop-down box and choose Benicio Del Espada to post as that avatar.

As for your characters further statistics, posting a full statblock would be nice, and you can edit Benicio's profile to add it in. For an example, you can check out one of my aliases. Kelborn was more recently constructed with Pathfinder RPG Beta rules, so he should provide a decent example.

On the subject of how to play, I imagine you'll catch on to the flow of the game fairly quickly, the only distinction is that when you write about something out of character, you should surround your Out-of-character text with OOC tags. To do this, you would surround your text with [ ooc ] and [ /ooc ] (but remember to remove the spaces when you actually post it.

All the other tags can be found under "BBCode tags you can use:" that you'll see whenever you post a message.

If you need anything else, just ask! :)


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

well the bow does not count as a monk weapon. just trained in it. The only ones that count as monk weapons I wrote are the ones they can FOB with. But I don't care if the bow goes or not really. Could I replace it with a whip maybe?

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Male Human Student (5)
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
well the bow does not count as a monk weapon. just trained in it. The only ones that count as monk weapons I wrote are the ones they can FOB with. But I don't care if the bow goes or not really. Could I replace it with a whip maybe?

Yeah, I prefer that. I like keeping the monk using weapons that most classes don't usually use, it gives those weapons a purpose. Could you make a note of this allowance on the bottom of your statblock for future reference? Thanks!


Female Human,Cheliax Monk 1

that I will do. I have most done, as well as a basic backstory. may expand on that


Female Goblin Ranger 1
Nameless wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

If you refer to what I think you refer to (though you may not), then it's 'jerk' not 'buffoon'. If you have not watch UR, though, then nevermind.

I'd like to be a goblin barbarian, if that's alright. Though he keeps his race hidden, and speaks well enough to pass for a slightly feral gnome.

Goblin barbarian is totally fine, though I expect you to take some ranks in disguise to keep your race a secret! Of course, hiding your features will give you a circumstance bonus...

I like the idea, I'm interested to see where this goes... :)

EDIT: I see you've changed to ranger... That's all well and good.

Great. Of course, Disguise is a cross-class skill, which could pose a problem...fortunately, Weapon Finesse is a fighter bonus feat, so I may be able to find some feat that makes Disguise a class skill...

I'll get to work on my character in a second, I'm really looking forward to this campaign.


Male Tiefling Wizard 5
Tenzekil Brushketel wrote:

Great. Of course, Disguise is a cross-class skill, which could pose a problem...fortunately, Weapon Finesse is a fighter bonus feat, so I may be able to find some feat that makes Disguise a class skill...

I'll get to work on my character in a second, I'm really looking forward to this campaign.

Well that's a shame, because there isn't. Still, you could probably just take 20 at the start of the day and at most 5% of commoners would realize you're not an ugly gnome.

While I'm here, are there any noble houses that I could work for? I got a basic background forming, but no names. EDIT: Also, unless the Pathfinder stats are much different, I'm just using the regular 3.5 stats for my summons.


Male Tengu Cleric 1
Tenzekil Brushketel wrote:

Great. Of course, Disguise is a cross-class skill, which could pose a problem...fortunately, Weapon Finesse is a fighter bonus feat, so I may be able to find some feat that makes Disguise a class skill...

I'll get to work on my character in a second, I'm really looking forward to this campaign.

Under Pathfinder, you can take Disguise even though it's not a class skill, you just lose that +3 bonus class skills get. I think there might be a trait or something that gives you a bonus on disguise, but it might be in the Cheliax companion rather than the regular traits.

Other ideas: Disguise kits give a +2 bonus(up to 10 times) and cost 50gp, and Skill Focus gives a +3 bonus to one skill until 10th level, when it doubles to +6. If you happen to have 1800gp lying around, there's always the Hat of Disguise...


Female Kobold
Zareth Edemont wrote:
Tenzekil Brushketel wrote:

Great. Of course, Disguise is a cross-class skill, which could pose a problem...fortunately, Weapon Finesse is a fighter bonus feat, so I may be able to find some feat that makes Disguise a class skill...

I'll get to work on my character in a second, I'm really looking forward to this campaign.
Well that's a shame, because there isn't. Still, you could probably just take 20 at the start of the day and at most 5% of commoners would realize you're not an ugly gnome.

Ugh, dang. I guess I'll just get skill focus.

So are these shadow things outsiders, or undead, or what? I need to know for my favored enemy.
/\Ah, thanks. Alright, I'll probably get Skill Focus, and a disguise kit to help my voice and all.


Male Tengu Cleric 1
Zareth Edemont wrote:


While I'm here, are there any noble houses that I could work for? I got a basic background forming, but no names. EDIT: Also, unless the Pathfinder stats are much different, I'm just using the regular 3.5 stats for my summons.

I haven't compared thoroughly myself, but the Bestiary preview has some of the frequently summoned animals and a quick template for infernal/celestial creatures.

Bestiary Preview wrote:


Celestial Creature (CR +0 or +1)
Rebuild Rules: Senses gains darkvision 60 ft.; Defensive
Abilities gains DR and energy resistance as noted on the
table; SR gains SR equal to new CR +5; Special Attacks smite
evil 1/day as a swift action (adds Cha bonus to attack rolls
and damage bonus equal to HD against evil foes; smite
persists until target is dead or the celestial creature rests).

Fiendish Creature (CR +0 or +1)
Rebuild Rules: Senses gains darkvision 60 ft.; Defensive
Abilities gains DR and energy resistance as noted on the
table; SR gains SR equal to new CR +5; Special Attacks
smite good 1/day as a swift action (adds Cha bonus to
attack rolls and damage bonus equal to HD against good
foes; smite persists until target is dead or the fiendish
creature rests).

Also, the HD are slightly different, with 1-3 being the tier with Resistance 5 and no DR. Probably the biggest change is the swift action smite, which gives the Charisma bonus to attacks and continues until their target is dead or they take a nap.

Edit: Now I'm a little worried that I posted that big an excerpt. Not sure if that's cool or not, even though it's a free preview. It seemed conspicuously absent from the Pathfinder SRD site.


Male Humanoid Lurker 1/ Nerd 1
Rakless wrote:
I haven't compared thoroughly myself, but the Bestiary preview has some of the frequently summoned animals and a quick template for infernal/celestial creatures.

I forgot about the Bestiary preview, thanks. They don't have any stats for some of the summons, but it isn't that hard to convert them anyway.


M Human Fighter 1

Ah, Westcrown. What can I say? City of my birth, and my home lo these few years of my young life.

Would that it were somewhere else, a place not steeped in blood and treachery. These canals hide more than just the murdered. Someday, the guilty will be punished. I'll deliver a part of that punishment, gods willing...

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