Hey, it was Gen Con


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Why it took three days to find D&D at the World’s Largest Gaming Convention.

Okay, so, first things first, the geek nerd biography. I played D&D. Are you done rolling your eyes and laughing? Good. For the first time in about ten years - due to the economy – I had some free time in August. I saw an ad for GenCon, which billed itself as the World’s Largest Gaming Convention.

I thought, well, this will be great, get away, do something geeky and nerdy for a few days and get back to the hunt for gainful employment. I arrived at the convention Friday afternoon, checked into the hotel, and drove down to the convention center. Picked up some tickets for events and thought, hey, I’m home, among my geek nerd brothers and sisters.

The first thing that struck me was the bare flesh exposed by some folks of indeterminate age. I quickly learned this was called Cosplay, Costume play, which is a pastime indulged in by, uhm, young people into Anime such as Dragonball Z. Alright, so eye candy, harmless – except for the age factor. But I thought, okay, I can handle this, there are bars nearby where I can drown the creepy skin-crawly feeling that I’ve some how become a pedophile. Continue building your personality profile. Go on, its cool, join the mob, all the cool kids do it.

Onto the Games! Found the area of the convention where Wizards of the Coast, manufacturers of Dungeons and Dragons, had staked their claim, only to discover I arrived too late for an introduction to – cue theme music – D&D 4E. Come back tomorrow.

No problem, I checked out the dealer room, which in itself is an amazing place stacked almost ceiling to floor with useless stuff you don’t need but absolutely have to have. I dare you, no, I double dog dare you to walk through this place during GenCon without seeing ten to fifteen things that need to come home with you. Sharper Image, Ikea and Bed, Bath and Beyond have nothing on the merchandise collected here.

So, on to the next day: I wander in, tickets in hand ready to get my geek on. You can geek and nerd here, man, its okay, socially acceptable and even encouraged. I waited in line, and waited, and finally got to the front. I was in the wrong line. This was for players with some experience. I was geek, but I was ten years out of practice geek. My geek and nerd were not strong enough. They were flabby, girly man geek and nerd.

So, new line, wait, get to front, I was there too early, come back at six. Gak, cough, okay, I get you, bar, cold beer, lunch, beer, successful afternoon. There was a Colts game that afternoon and the ancient geek and nerd high school tremors hit me. Geeks and Jocks do not mix. Geeks do not mix with Jocks in large numbers – at all. But the laughing and eye rolling was kept to an absolute minimum. I was shocked, aghast, this was not my beautiful memory - surprise, no pummelings, no beatings, no lynchings. Things were looking up.

Convention Hall, six o’clock: I’ve had my libations and the Minnesota Vikings were about to catch a beating. Nothing but great things can happen from this point. I finally got into a game - and I felt like a special needs monkey. This was not D&D, at least not D&D that I remembered. The rules have been stripped down, simplified, to the level of reading is fundamental. Everyone is equal, and everyone cooperates. Barney likes this game. Where was the random violence and smashing things to little bits and taking their loot? Not here. So, as I said, my geek and nerd are ten-years-out-of-practice, flabby, girly man geek and nerd. The question fell out of my mouth, “This is D&D, right?” And they looked at me like I grew a third eye.

This was a board game. There was a board. You heard me, a board, like a fold up paper board with little cardboard markers, sorta like if Parker Brothers put out a ghetto version of Monopoly. You kick open the door and begin the game. No literally, that’s how it went. Move in, fight, move to next room, fight, move to final room, fight. Game over. Okay - and well - that’s it.

To give this game its due, its easy to pick up, you can have it down in about five minutes and master it about fifteen. It’s that easy. The math has been smashed down to one addition problem, with the answer provided, in bold letters with easy to understand words. It’s a simple game. It works. All they need is a box and they’ll a winner on their hands.

Okay, its seven o’clock, time to feed my ugly face. Food. Asked some folks, a nerd family no less, fellow geeks and nerds about grub, they pointed in the direction of the Noodle Company. We got to chatting, I asked if they played D&D 4E. The kid piped up and said it was a boring MMORG. Great - acronyms – love it.

An MMORG, is a massively multi-player online roleplaying game. In shorthand, it means World of Warcraft. I’ve played Warcraft, laughed at the commercials and thoroughly enjoyable game. The more I thought about this over my pesto noodles – which were excellent by the way - the more I thought, damn, the kid was right. It’s an MMORG, without the online, the graphics, the social interaction or the - well, it ain’t Warcraft.

To add insult to injury, the Vikings won. And this was one of those surreal moments that could only occur at a gaming convention. At nine o’clock, there was costume event - a zombie walk. The zombies gathered in the Indianapolis Union Station, and began their march just as the game was letting out. The sympathetic zombies tried to cheer up the disappointed Colts fans by limping about, in their Night of the Living Dead make-up, chanting, “Viking Brains.”

So now it was Sunday, last day, and still had nothing I could recognize as D&D. My ten-years-out-of-practice, flabby, girly man Geek and Nerd would go back into the box, and I would return home with the memory of zombies trying to cheer up disappointed Colts fans. I found a final event – Introduction to Pathfinder.

Holy Geekdom, Fatman, this is where they were hiding it! There were dice! Dice bags! Miniatures! Rules written for people with a comprehension level above the eighth grade! Okay, I know, that might not be a selling point, but you get the idea. And that’s why I couldn’t find it – D&D wasn’t called D&D anymore, it was called Pathfinder. Okay, now you have my permission to laugh at me. Go ahead, get it off your chest. Done? Feel better now? Good.

This was the D&D I remembered - thinking was involved, planning, resource management, followed by bone crushing violence and looting your reward. D&D, I found you. Paizo, the publishers of Pathfinder, have done a good job of streamlining the game, not to the level of D&D 4E, but it has been trimmed, put on a diet and forced to get some exercise. It makes logical sense now. The complex calculus of previous D&D editions have been reduced to some high school math problems – which means both addition and subtraction are required. Okay, maybe that’s not a selling point either, but you get the idea. The game is playable with a minimum of page flipping and rules knowledge. My ten-years-out-of-practice, flabby, girly man geek and nerd were satisfied. I played D&D, which wasn’t called D&D anymore, but Pathfinder.


Awesome story. Very funny :)

Welcome to the fold brother!

Sovereign Court

Sounds like you had a good time, sorry that no one got to warn you about 4th edition before you wasted a day though. :(


Welcome to the Paizo messageboards, James.
I don't have time to give the full guided tour, but as a couple of pointers, the Paizo staff frequent their own boards (even the CEO hersef occasionally!) often popping into threads regarding products to clarify things/answer questions, or to just mess around (umm, actually I think the technical term for the latter is 'build community relations').
Several posters are stand outs from the rest... 'yoda8myhead' is the keeper of one of the Paizo Wikipedia sites which are floating arounf the internet, Kobold Cleaver has his own avatar for when he uses the word 'smurf' (everyone else just gets a random one assigned), Sebastian for reasons best known to himself and Cosmo of customer services has a unique Bella Sara pony avatar, Heathansson has a truly astonishing number of posts, Lilith is mistress of cookies and of the (unofficial) Paizo chatroom... the list of crazy (in a good way) individuals goes on and on in fact. These are just the few who first came to my mind.
Anyway, if you have a question just find a likely thread on a likely forum (or even just post it) and someone will likely be along to answer it at some point. There are a lot of very friendly and helpful posters around, most days, although occasional topics (EG anything edition war associated) may be best avoided unless you brought along your scroll of energy immunity [fire].

Edit:
And oh yes, watch out for the RPGSuperstar contest, which tends to take place over the winter, where the winner writes a module, and for announcements for the annual PaizoCon event in Seattle (or even our own humble UK version which we hope to run again next year).

Sovereign Court

Great story, welcome to Pathfinder!

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

beautiful...just beautiful

welcome


Heh, awesome post. Wish I had been there.

Paizo Employee CEO

Charles Evans 25 wrote:

the Paizo staff frequent their own boards (even the CEO hersef occasionally!) often popping into threads regarding products to clarify things/answer questions, or to just mess around (umm, actually I think the technical term for the latter is 'build community relations').

We sure do! Welcome James! Sounds like you had an entertaining GenCon at least. I wish I could have seen those zombies lusting after Viking brains. Though I think they might have gone hungry if they had actually found some Viking players.

:)

Side regression:

If you knew that I was a huge Packer fan, that little dig makes more sense. Plus, it was aimed at Erik and Sarah, our resident Viking fans. With Jason and myself taking on the Packer green and gold, it gets a little "heated" here during football season. And with the Vikings set to announce the signing of Brett Favre this afternoon, I am guessing the heat will be turned up to 11. Erik is actually going home in October for the Viking vs. Packer game in Minneapolis. I sure hope he likes interceptions!


Welcome home, one might add ;-)

Contributor

HAHA! Awesome story R.J. Absolutely fantastic. If you ever need to know anything about Pathfinder, gaming, life, the universe, etc, just hit us up! Hope to see you on here often!

Liberty's Edge

Awesome story. Welcome, by the way.

Sorry to hear it took you so long to finally find something in the conventional hall worth doing. Glad you made it into Paizo though.

Sounds like you don't have much time. Have you gamed any at all in the last 10 years?


Welcome, James! :)


Welcome James! Have some cookies! *offers virtual cookies*

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

Welcome, James!

Dark Archive

*After recovering from ROFLHO*. Uh, hi, James. Welcome to the Paizo boards. Hope you survive the experience ^_^

Liberty's Edge

I loved the story. Well written and fun, thanks for the read )


Nice! Loved the story and I was one of those Colts fans that needed a little cheering up...but the beer had pretty much done that already. :)

Scarab Sages

Welcome Welcome, glad you got your geek on! And you found the real D&D!

Huzzah!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Lisa Stevens wrote:
I sure hope he likes interceptions!

Of course there'll be interceptions... He's still used to throwing to green jerseys!

Oh, and Erik, if you are going to the game, let me know. I'd be more than willing to see it with you all (even if I'm wearing my Eagles jersey...)

Liberty's Edge

Great story Roguejames, and welcome to Paizo!

Liberty's Edge

Welcome home, James.


Welcome James!

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Permit me a bit of conspiracy theory lunacy here: Favre is actually still working for the Packers. His job: infiltrate the Vikings and destroy them from within by making them waste whatever opportunities they had at QB on pursuit of an aging... well, has-been. He'll be great the first few weeks and the higher ups in Minnesota will spend money on free agents and trades here and there, and BOOM! Once the trade deadline comes around, his arm'll fall off like it did last season for the Jets. A good run defense and a good rushing game will be wasted, wasted on yet another season of Vikings futility... all thanks to #4.

And welcome to the fold here on the boards. WotC may have mortgaged the loyalty and good will they built up with 3e fans, but thankfully there are still companies around who care about the history of the game and not just the sales.

Sovereign Court Contributor

Welcome!

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