If Ahriman exists in PF, does Ahura Mazda as well?


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And what would he be? An empyreal lord? A unique demigod? Something else entirely?


As of right now, Ahura Mazda is not a member of the Pathfinder pantheon. This may change in the future, but I believe it to be unlikely at best. Paizo seems to be avoiding the inclusion of real world Monotheistic deities in their game universe, and I don't blame them. The potential ramifications of such a decision are a can of worms best left unopened.

However, this is a tabletop game. You can include whatever deity you want in your home game's pantheon. If I were going to give Ahura Mazda an entry, I would take what I know of Zoroastrianism into account and make him a full deity rather than a demigod (possibly even the supreme deity if I were crafting a homebrew world's pantheon), with the Law, Good, Protection, Fire, and Knowledge domains.


I have always just played with the assumption that all the gods anybody anywhere has ever believed in are real, but they are not necessarily "true to the stories told about them", and most aren't really active or involved everywhere in the universe at once.

So the Pathfinder gods are "the Gods people on Golarion are aware of, or who are active on Golarion" but the universe is a real big place.


PossibleCabbage wrote:

I have always just played with the assumption that all the gods anybody anywhere has ever believed in are real, but they are not necessarily "true to the stories told about them", and most aren't really active or involved everywhere in the universe at once.

So the Pathfinder gods are "the Gods people on Golarion are aware of, or who are active on Golarion" but the universe is a real big place.

I also go with this interpretation, which is somewhat supported by the Ancient Egyptian gods existing in canon, as well as other real world deities like Lamashtu and Asmodeus.

Even though Asmodeus is the Lord of Hell, he isn't worshipped everywhere. This extends the Aesir, Ahura Mazda, and other such deities as well.


MidsouthGuy wrote:

As of right now, Ahura Mazda is not a member of the Pathfinder pantheon. This may change in the future, but I believe it to be unlikely at best. Paizo seems to be avoiding the inclusion of real world Monotheistic deities in their game universe, and I don't blame them. The potential ramifications of such a decision are a can of worms best left unopened.

However, this is a tabletop game. You can include whatever deity you want in your home game's pantheon. If I were going to give Ahura Mazda an entry, I would take what I know of Zoroastrianism into account and make him a full deity rather than a demigod (possibly even the supreme deity if I were crafting a homebrew world's pantheon), with the Law, Good, Protection, Fire, and Knowledge domains.

I would think he is around the same power level as Ahriman. Otherwise why hasn't he won already?


Yqatuba wrote:
MidsouthGuy wrote:

As of right now, Ahura Mazda is not a member of the Pathfinder pantheon. This may change in the future, but I believe it to be unlikely at best. Paizo seems to be avoiding the inclusion of real world Monotheistic deities in their game universe, and I don't blame them. The potential ramifications of such a decision are a can of worms best left unopened.

However, this is a tabletop game. You can include whatever deity you want in your home game's pantheon. If I were going to give Ahura Mazda an entry, I would take what I know of Zoroastrianism into account and make him a full deity rather than a demigod (possibly even the supreme deity if I were crafting a homebrew world's pantheon), with the Law, Good, Protection, Fire, and Knowledge domains.

I would think he is around the same power level as Ahriman. Otherwise why hasn't he won already?

Without getting into real world theology, suffice to say that "power level" doesn't actually have much to do with the cosmic struggle.

But that only matters if you care about keeping "Golarion Ahura Mazda" somewhat in line with his real world equivalent. You can do whatever you please if you just want to use the name.

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