Humm... How about those scary fear-detecting laser statues, rock eaters, and the Nothing while we're at it. :P
Drop bears: far more terrifying than piercers!
Are these open somewhere?
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Well, yes.....but it's TRUE this time!!!
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Someone already linked the Monstropedia upthread, so I figured I should share a couple well-used links when I research critters:
and
Both good starting points.
Wes, I want to see these in PF Bestiary II:
Won't have to wait that long:
Fey.
FURIES!
Sea serpents
Tatzlwyrms.
SWARMS!!
Potentials:
Bandersnatches!
Buggoids / Insect Peoples
Grindylows
Might have to wait a bit longer:
Thunderbird!
Racing snails!
Haietlik
MUDMEN!
Kitsune
I'd like to add my voice to having these additions to every Bestiary:
Making of... Creation sections for Undead and Constructs to the Bestiary.
For constructs - Granted, this is totally a requirement. For Undead, half-granted. We get those in there when we can, though some times they don't fit due to space. That being said, we've got a clever work around I'm excited to show you next year.
Familairs Additional/ Alternate familairs for wizards
Granted.
Somekind of cause/ creation section for Ghosts and Spirits as to what made them into what they are now
Also something that should appear with almost every undead creature.
Add On Attacks Some kind of pre-made attacks section that can be easily added.
Interesting idea, tell me more...
I WANT WHEELERS!
Oh dude, I just saw this in the theater a few months back. STILL creepy as all hell. There is something there, isn't there. I almost wonder if its the same thing that make Star Trek's borg so scary, distinctly human creatures melded with machines. But the wheelers ARE much more fantasy. Huuummmm...
I only purchase equal opportunity monster books.
First off, that's a lie. Addict.
We have tons and tons of different kinds of demons and devils, and more and more appear in every AP. What about some new types of angels? I have been reading Dictionary of Angels, including fallen angels and there are some great inspirations in here. While I understand that it's cooler to include monsters PCs can fight, it's also important to maintain balance.
Second, that's a fine point. I do want to and plan to do some more with angels. Expect a few more trickling in as Heralds and what not, with more on the way.
...when I spied this book, The Mythical Creatures Bible: The Definitive Guide to Legendary Beings by Brenda Rosen. For $14.95 this book is hand-sized, full color, with an image on every other page. From the quick glance I took, I decided to make you aware of it, Wes.
Do you work for Ms. Rosen? Cause you just sold a copy of her book. Should be waiting for me when I get back from Gen Con. Thanks!
Quicklings!
Likely.
Campestri... one of my favourite "monsters" ever! :D
Are these guys open anywhere?
Derhii! I love these guys so much I included them as one of the major races in my Homebrew, even going so far as to create two companion races for them. The Utarhii are a basically a flying Orang Utan, while the Jilarhii are flying chimpanzees.
Oh, don't expect you've seen the last of any of Golarion's beasties. With few exceptions, we don't plan on going all fire and forget.
How about Pod People..? Very "Invasion" oriented, but look at the concept instead of any one literal interpretation. People (commoners, etc) being replaced by near perfectly looking duplicates from a very inhuman source... Perhaps such creatures change when confronted, or 'grow' in power the longer they go undiscovered?
What about an intelligent insect NPC race? Thri-keen used to be very popular in the day..
Aquatic creatures and races? (Elaine Cunningham's awesome story has me interested in Golarion's watery mysteries again)
That new "armadillo crocodile/real life bulette" fossil they found in Argentina a few ago begs for a statblock. Hmmmm.....Link it or it's not real!
Wes: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/community/offTopic/archives/bulletteFo ssilFoundInBrazil
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see here for an example.Drop bears: far more terrifying than piercers!Are these open somewhere?
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...can we see some dragon-magazine-style ecologies in the future? I miss them.
You might be interested in this.
According to what I gleaned from the monster list included in the Bonus Bestiary, Bestiary it will unfortunately not cover all of the iconic OGL monsters of the 3.5 MHB.With regards to all the great modules and adventure path books you published so far using 3.5 rules, I'd want the Bestiary II to include those monsters which were often referred to in those 3.5 adventures, but which are not part of the Bestiary I any more. One example coming to my mind are Gricks (e.g. in module D1).
Totally right. We'll be drawing upon even more SRD creatures for Bestiary II, with the plan being to have scalped all the A and B class creatures from there by that point. Some will be left behind, though - I don't think any of us are championing the tojinida when when excluding it means we could have a new protean or graveknight or something wholly new. But making sure the majority of the beasties we've used since Pathfinder #1 are represented was one of the goals of Bestiary I and will continue through Bestiary II.
As an afterhought: I know abotu the restrictions of the OGL (namely the off limits status of beholders, mind flayers and other IP). With regards to discussions about upcoming/ existing "replacements" for their role in the game: Please ensure that not only the role, but also the relative encounter strength (-> CR) of any replacement is up to its older "brethren".
I would not expect any creature we do to have - even in a subtextual level - to be a wholesale illithid or beholder replacement. As in, never expect to see me writing "For any adventure you have featuring illithids, just replace those with Pathfinder's mind stealing mentok and go!" Those monsters are cool and it's sad we can't use them anymore, but ideas are cheep and we'll come up with new cool monsters of all CRs. And really, this only matters for us. If you want to have mind flayers and beholders in your PFRPG game, go for it! The 3.5 stat will work just fine.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys do with Lycanthropes.
More on the way!
I'd love to see some monsters of the Mana Wastes, what kind of weird creatures might evolve to survive in a magic-dead zone.
Hum, interesting. No plans for this at the moment, but hummmm....
Drop Bears
see here for an example.
:D
Dude, I totally forgot these were REAL. That's too awesome.
crocodillo a la National Geographic
It's not a rickroll. hit reply and check; the link's legit. Would I lie to you?
Well, yes.....but it's TRUE this time!!!
THATSFRICKENAWESOME!
How about Pod People..? Very "Invasion" oriented, but look at the concept instead of any one literal interpretation. People (commoners, etc) being replaced by near perfectly looking duplicates from a very inhuman source... Perhaps such creatures change when confronted, or 'grow' in power the longer they go undiscovered?
The moonflower in #14 reaches toward this, but all out pod people... hum hum hum. Also discovering that the Star Doppelganger (The Thing) is open, well that's fascinating too...
What about an intelligent insect NPC race? Thri-keen used to be very popular in the day..
Probably, probably... just not sure where yet.
Aquatic creatures and races? (Elaine Cunningham's awesome story has me interested in Golarion's watery mysteries again)
Hah hah, also on the list. There's going to be a touch of that in Kingmaker.
Hah hah, also on the list. There's going to be a touch of that in Kingmaker.
Word on the street is that when merfolk start to show, life is gonna get interesting...
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Are these guys open anywhere?Campestri... one of my favourite "monsters" ever! :D
I don't think so. I know I found an update for 3.5 on the net somewhere, but I think that was just a fan created thing.
As far as I know all of the creatures created and introduced in old Dungeon Mags are all WotC IP. Correct me if I'm wrong, you'd have a better handle on that than I.Doesn't stop you making the Compostri tho right... *wink wink*
I'm Mentok, the Miiiiiiiiiiind-taker.
Boweeop.
Awesome. Buncha nerds. LOL. :P
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"For any adventure you have featuring illithids, just replace those with Pathfinder's mind stealing mentok and go!"<. <
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I'm Mentok, the Miiiiiiiiiiind-taker.
^_^
OMG my friend actually tried making Mentok as his D&D character...
All he did was run around saying that.
Funny but annoying... lol
Is it wrong that I actually want a "mind stealing mentok" now?
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Drop bears: far more terrifying than piercers!
Are these open somewhere?
I was largely joking about the drop bears, but they could probably be an interesting encounter in the right situation. They're one of the few jokey folklore monsters that are supposed to be dangerous.
Someone else pointed out that they were released in the d20 Modern SRD as OGL critters (it's in the Menaces section). Converting from d20 Modern may be a little more work, but there are some really cool monsters in there.
Any of you that are interested in dinosaurs and prehistoric monsters should check out the BBC Walking with... series. They're all on Netflix. My favorite was "Walking with Beasts", which opened with a segment on the North American terror birds, and forever changed my view of the axe beak.
Another memorable creature highlighted there was the Andrewsarchus mongoliensis. It looked like a wolf with the snout of a crocodile as well as hooves, and it was larger than a brown bear. It also happened to be the largest mammalian land predator.
It's the kind of monster that noone would think ever actually lived, but was only made up for D&D.
Some Vance monsters would be cool, if it's legal to use them.
I think that's the reason that demodands, not deodands, manage Carceri. But with the grue, one could possibly argue that it's been genericized.
What about an intelligent insect NPC race? Thri-keen used to be very popular in the day..
I was never a big fan of thri-keen: they seemed too Dark Sun to fit into most worlds (giant psionic praying mantises that fight with double weapons?).
Intelligent insectoid creatures are definitely cool: I hope we see some Osirian scarab-people or the hive-villages of intelligent bees. Formians are great, but as outsiders are somewhat harder to use at lower levels.
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Hi!
Thanks for your quick and exhaustive reply!
Just one add on to this:
Totally right. We'll be drawing upon even more SRD creatures for Bestiary II, with the plan being to have scalped all the A and B class creatures from there by that point. Some will be left behind, though - (...) But making sure the majority of the beasties we've used since Pathfinder #1 are represented was one of the goals of Bestiary I and will continue through Bestiary II.
One thing coming to my mind: For your 3.5e products, PHB and MM were prerequisites. Any MM monsters appearing in these products were referred to by MM page number without stat details.
You mentioned that still quite some A and B class critters await their pathfinderized publication in Bestiary II.
So will both Bestiary I and Bestiary II be mandatory for playing of future adventures/ modules? Or will stat blocks for anything bestiary-II-ish be included in future products?
(I know: looking very far into future! Just being curious ;-) )
Cheers,
Günther
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How about Linnorms?
And a Dire creature template... or failing that, just Dire Goats (along with War Dire Goats, naturally).
As for fey, I prefer them to be amoral rather than strictly good or evil, sure I like dark fey, but I prefer that to be a side effect of their weird mindset rather than any actual malevolence.
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I WANT WHEELERS!Oh dude, I just saw this in the theater a few months back. STILL creepy as all hell. There is something there, isn't there. I almost wonder if its the same thing that make Star Trek's borg so scary, distinctly human creatures melded with machines. But the wheelers ARE much more fantasy. Hmmmm...
I'd love to see some monsters of the Mana Wastes, what kind of weird creatures might evolve to survive in a magic-dead zone.Hum, interesting. No plans for this at the moment, but hmmmm....
How about adding these together? Wheelers + Mana Wastes = GOLD!
That being said, we've got a clever work around I'm excited to show you next year.
KMD drums his fingertips together, "Ex...cellent."
Granted.Familairs Additional/ Alternate familairs for wizards
Awesomeness... + Infinity!
Interesting idea, tell me more...Add On Attacks Some kind of pre-made attacks section that can be easily added.
The basic idea started as my desire to include the Shrieking Eels from The Princess Bride in the Animals section of the PF Bestiary. However..., [FIST SHAKE] Jimmy J., [/FIST SHAKE] has confirmed in the last PF Chat I was able to attend that Shrieking Eels didn't make it into the Bestiary. So I was going to add a Sonic Attack ability to the Giant Moray Eel.
So... I thought: What if there was a List of Pre-Generated attacks that could just be added to a Monster template? Include the CR Bump somewhere in the attack details. Instant variations... Ta-Da!
I'd also like to see a Ability/ Attack List make it into one of the Bestiaries. With my recent plans on creating the Isz in Pathfinder, I've come across many cool abilities I would've liked to have been aware from the start of the project. Like... the Dire Weasel and it's ATTACH Ability. Makes perfect sense for the Isz and add Bleed to ATTACH and you get a Bite Attack that deals damage every turn.
Although I haven't seen examples in any published material, I really like the idea of creatures that are hard or impossible to hurt even with magic or magic weapons, but are vulnerable to things that (like themselves) are not completely real, for example illusions, fairy items, dreamstuff, weapons with the unreal special quality (doing reduced or no damage to real creatures and requiring a feat to use properly), things purely imagined by children, things recently created with Nolzur's Marvelous Pigments, you get the idea. This is a chance for the somewhat neglected school of illusion magic to shine, since illusions are all too real to creatures that are themselves less than real. An unreal creature could use an illusionary bridge. A phantasmal killer would not scare such a creature to death; it would instead initiate actual combat. An unreal creature might not be able to do much direct harm to a real creature, but it would nevertheless provide an entirely new category of challenge to an adventuring group, which would need tools to cope with unreal threats. I hope there's some food for thought at least. It would be so cool to see something along these lines in a Pathfinder Bestiary!
I liked the Berbalang from the AD&D Fiend Folio. Any creature that projects a copy of itself while its true self is hidden somewhere in a trance might work with some of the ideas for unreal creatures above (and earlier in this thread).
This idea adds an interesting twist to the game. I like this idea. I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA. RREEAALLYY!! LLIIKKEE!!
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Take a look at the Grigori and the Nephilim. I'd love to see Samyaza available.
Overall, I think the Grigori and Nephilim would be great to place in Cheliax.
They already did the Nephilim in the Bestiary section of Pathfinder 23, The Impossible Eye, page 88. A nephilim is also
Take a look at the Grigori and the Nephilim. I'd love to see Samyaza available.
Classical takes on angels have informed a lot of writing as of late with Cheliax and Book of the Damned, so don't worry that they aren't getting any love. You really can't have devils without angels. As for Samyaza, funny you mentioned him, as we used him already - in spirit at least - in Pathfinder #5, with the fallen empyreal lord Shemhazai, Lord of Vision (p 87). While not a direct port, he's definitely the inspiration.
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Wes, will there ever be a PF version of the Black Dog associated with bad omens and/or death? The Black Shuck, Gytrash, Cu Sith, etc. are all examples...
Ooh, that's where my rothound idea came from. I love the idea of hounds (or crows, whatever) serving as harbingers of death.
The Hound of Ill Omen seemed to follow this theme.
I saw some video footage of Glow Worms last night.
They sure look creepy as they vomit up their silk traps.
Wes, will there ever be a PF version of the Black Dog associated with bad omens and/or death? The Black Shuck, Gytrash, Cu Sith, etc. are all examples...
In a lot of ways the yeth hound seems to be inspired by such tales. That's not to say that we should ever be satisfied with one when we can have two.
So, for you C.J., no there will never be a PF version of this concept.
For everyone else, maaaaybe. A creepy fey take on this might be cool...
I saw some video footage of Glow Worms last night.
They sure look creepy as they vomit up their silk traps.
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Also:
Bullet ants themselves could make a crazy swarm, but Cordyceps fungi must be one of the most terrifying things ever.
I highly recommend obtaining the entire Planet Earth series that these clips are from (and the deep sea creatures episode of Blue Planet as well).
Real animals can sometimes be weirder than the weirdest monster manual entry.
Bullet ants themselves could make a crazy swarm, but Cordyceps fungi must be one of the most terrifying things ever.
I highly recommend obtaining the entire Planet Earth series that these clips are from (and the deep sea creatures episode of Blue Planet as well).
Real animals can sometimes be weirder than the weirdest monster manual entry.
Yes. QFT n' all that. I seriously want to do something with the cordyceps fungi - the fungal creature template from the Advanced Bestiary is a good start.
@Wes: I've got an idea for an insectoid race of "water spider" folk. Very appropriate for the River Kingdoms territory, maybe? I can see them now in my mind's eye, skittering across the river on pure surface tension akin to waterwalking.
Do you mean water strider? Or the water spiders that use air bubbles?
You can never have too many dragons.
Specifically:
The Dragonet: A scaled-down dragon, ranging in size from finger length to 30 cm (one foot). Originating in Switzerland during the Middle Ages, dragonets mirror the appearance of the dragon exactly; from legs and wings, to claws, horns and spines and the ability to breathe fire.
They hunt in groups and have highly poisonous blood. One story reports a man being killed when a dragonet's blood splattered on him.
Packs are known to kill young (True) dragons.
The zomok and sárkánykígyó: A zomok is a giant serpent that lives in the swamp and hunts pigs or sheep. A group of shepherds can easily kill them.
The sárkánykígyó is a giant winged snake (and is in fact a fully-grown zomok). It often serves as flying mount for sorcerers. The sárkánykígyó is believed to rule over storms and bad weather.
As to other fantasical beast:
Alce (or keythong): A wingless griffin
Al-mi'raj
Baku Link.
Dhampir
Erlking
Korrigan Link
The Rougarou and the Loogaroo: The loogaroo is a sort of vampiric werewolf, while the Rougarou is a bit more of a traditional werewolf with a Cajun twist. Rougarou
For those that want pod people: Naree Pons
+1 for Rusalka. The only question is whether they are undead or fey. There'd be lots of them where there are rivers.
Some of my favorite Slavic creatures are the alkonost and sirin.
+1 for Rusalka. The only question is whether they are undead or fey. There'd be lots of them where there are rivers.
Let's me pile another plus on there for rusalka. And that's just the kind of question I love to have to answer!