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Daigle wrote:

I’ve found that typing responses to threads and posts in a fresh document really helps against angry posting.

It also assists in finding typos and keeping posts from being eaten in addition to cooling off a silly heated response.

Here are the steps:

1. Read something that you want to respond to.

2. Fire up your favorite text editor and get cracking on that scathing response.

3. Either notice errors or the possibility that you are being a jackass.

4. Look it over again.

5. Fix any errors or tone the language appropriately.

6. Copy the text.

7. Click ‘reply’ or 'add a new post' on the messageboards.

8. Hover over the text box with your cursor.

9. Reconsider and delete the silly heated response.

10. Smile and go about your day.

Reason #5 I have shorter and fewer posts :)

Sovereign Court

David Fryer wrote:

... I believe, to paraphrase Shakespeare, the fault lies not in the topic, but in ourselves that we argue and insult...

... Rather, I believe that the answer is just to try and be nicer to our fellow beings and strive for enlightenment rather than victory. At least that's my opinion.

Why, man, he doth bestride the narrow world

Like a Colossus; and we petty men
Walk under his huge legs, and peep about
To find ourselves dishonourable graves.
Men at some time are masters of their fates:
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings.

;-)


CourtFool wrote:

Ooo! Ooo! My turn!

1. Read something that you want to respond to.

2.Fire up your favorite text editor and get cracking on that scathing response.

3.If response is one sentence long, post without further consideration.

4.If response is longer than one sentence, ask self why you feel the need to post? Do you believe you really have something of value to add to the thread.

5.Irregardless of answer to number 4, post anyway.

Didn't you forget that there is no insult a good bum-sniffing can't smooth over? ;)

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

Off-topic posts have been suppressed.


Thank you.

Liberty's Edge

Mothman wrote:
Realise that there are some people who’s positions and opinions you will never understand, nor they yours. Avoid entering into debate with these people. If they respond to your posts, ignore them, don’t reply, or simply thank them for their input and move on. You will never convince them that they are wrong, or even that your point of view is valid.

Because, if I just keep on talking, I know I'll eventually win.

Liberty's Edge

Heathansson wrote:
Mothman wrote:
Realise that there are some people who’s positions and opinions you will never understand, nor they yours. Avoid entering into debate with these people. If they respond to your posts, ignore them, don’t reply, or simply thank them for their input and move on. You will never convince them that they are wrong, or even that your point of view is valid.
Because, if I just keep on talking, I know I'll eventually win.

Indeed.

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

Off-topic posts have been suppressed.

Thankyou, there was some distasteful stuff there.

Dark Archive

Mothman wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

Off-topic posts have been suppressed.

Thankyou, there was some distasteful stuff there.

Thank you doubly from me.

Sovereign Court

I still say political threads should go or at the very least get put into another section. It's the same stuff, same people, saying the same damn thing all the time. Bush haters or Obama haters, they all sound alike and they will never change each other's minds.

Dark Archive

Vic Wertz wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

QFT.

Thanks Vic, now we can go back to quoting Shakespeare and bashing the French.

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David Fryer wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

QFT.

Thanks Vic, now we can go back to quoting Shakespeare and bashing the French.

D'accord.

Dark Archive

Callous Jack wrote:

I still say political threads should go or at the very least get put into another section. It's the same stuff, same people, saying the same damn thing all the time. Bush haters or Obama haters, they all sound alike and they will never change each other's minds.

It might change if the people involved took the time to understand what the other person was saying rather than just saying Republican=bad, and vice versa.


David Fryer wrote:
Thanks Vic, now we can go back to quoting Shakespeare and bashing the French.

Hehehe


David Fryer wrote:
It might change if the people involved took the time to understand what the other person was saying rather than just saying Republican=bad, and vice versa.

You mean Republican = really bad

Sovereign Court

David Fryer wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:

I still say political threads should go or at the very least get put into another section. It's the same stuff, same people, saying the same damn thing all the time. Bush haters or Obama haters, they all sound alike and they will never change each other's minds.

It might change if the people involved took the time to understand what the other person was saying rather than just saying Republican=bad, and vice versa.

And that's my problem, people are so hardwired to 'hate' the other guy that they can't see beyond it or find anything positive about the other party. It's just petty complaints and dirt-flinging.

Dark Archive

Callous Jack wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:

I still say political threads should go or at the very least get put into another section. It's the same stuff, same people, saying the same damn thing all the time. Bush haters or Obama haters, they all sound alike and they will never change each other's minds.

It might change if the people involved took the time to understand what the other person was saying rather than just saying Republican=bad, and vice versa.
And that's my problem, people are so hardwired to 'hate' the other guy that they can't see beyond it or find anything positive about the other party. It's just petty complaints and dirt-flinging.

I agree. That's why I started this thread, to try and change that.

Sovereign Court

David Fryer wrote:
I agree. That's why I started this thread, to try and change that.

Huzzah.

(So do I win the argument or is it a tie?)

Dark Archive

We'll have to ask Paula and Simon.

Dark Archive

CourtFool wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It might change if the people involved took the time to understand what the other person was saying rather than just saying Republican=bad, and vice versa.
You mean Republican = really bad

No, what I really meant is Poodle=Shut up n00b.

Dark Archive

Mothman wrote:
Realise that there are some people who’s positions and opinions you will never understand, nor they yours. Avoid entering into debate with these people. If they respond to your posts, ignore them, don’t reply, or simply thank them for their input and move on. You will never convince them that they are wrong, or even that your point of view is valid.

I agree whole heartedly I know of people on these boards who have a close personal relationship with their religion on this board and really saying much about can be dangerous, and no matter how hard I try I'll never understand that. But an important skill to learn is empathy try with every post you make to put yourself in the other persons shoes and see if it could be taken offensively, while trying to get your point across. But there is a time to just walk away and let it go.

Sovereign Court

David Fryer wrote:
]No, what I really meant is Poodle=Shut up n00b.

Point!

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Callous Jack wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I agree. That's why I started this thread, to try and change that.

Huzzah.

(So do I win the argument or is it a tie?)

Pfft. As if. I won.

Sovereign Court

Sebastian wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I agree. That's why I started this thread, to try and change that.

Huzzah.

(So do I win the argument or is it a tie?)
Pfft. As if. I won.

Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Callous Jack wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I agree. That's why I started this thread, to try and change that.

Huzzah.

(So do I win the argument or is it a tie?)
Pfft. As if. I won.
Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?

Randy Jackson, dawg.


Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?

I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?

Sovereign Court

CourtFool wrote:

Ooo! Ooo! My turn!

1. Read something that you want to respond to.

2.Fire up your favorite text editor and get cracking on that scathing response.

3.If response is one sentence long, post without further consideration.

4.If response is longer than one sentence, ask self why you feel the need to post? Do you believe you really have something of value to add to the thread.

5.Irregardless of answer to number 4, post anyway.

Damnit how did you discover my secret?


lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?

Only when David's drunk.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.

Wait...when was David sober?

Dark Archive

Sebastian wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.
Wait...when was David sober?

In all seriousness, I have been sober for 15 years. Before that though I was a raging alcoholic. However, I'm looking at taking the LSAT and applying to law school this fall, so I may have to start drinking again.

Dark Archive

Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.

Usually when I'm drunk I'm Rambo.

The Exchange

Vic Wertz wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
It's rather rude to take a thread which is about how to increase civil discourse and hijack it for the purpose of Muslim bashing.

This.

Paizo.com is not an appropriate place to spew this sort of hatred. Or any other sort of hatred, for that matter.

Off-topic posts have been suppressed.

Woot!

Silver Crusade

lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?

I can be Paula. It works because I have not contributed anything meaningful to the discussion.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

David Fryer wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.
Wait...when was David sober?
In all seriousness, I have been sober for 15 years. Before that though I was a raging alcoholic. However, I'm looking at taking the LSAT and applying to law school this fall, so I may have to start drinking again.

Don't forget the blow.

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Celestial Healer wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
I can be Paula. It works because I have not contributed anything meaningful to the discussion.

You have to be a lush though.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Sebastian wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.
Wait...when was David sober?
In all seriousness, I have been sober for 15 years. Before that though I was a raging alcoholic. However, I'm looking at taking the LSAT and applying to law school this fall, so I may have to start drinking again.
Don't forget the blow.

Somebody will be chasing dragons tonight, and I'm not talking about D&D, either.

Silver Crusade

Crimson Jester wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
I can be Paula. It works because I have not contributed anything meaningful to the discussion.
You have to be a lush though.

Good point. To make it convincing, I just drank an entire box of wine.

Dark Archive

Sebastian wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
lynora wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:


Does Sebastian count as Paula or Simon?
I'm pretty sure he counts as Simon. He strikes me as the more abrasive type rather than the nice, can't we all just get along? type. Does that make David Paula?
Only when David's drunk.
Wait...when was David sober?
In all seriousness, I have been sober for 15 years. Before that though I was a raging alcoholic. However, I'm looking at taking the LSAT and applying to law school this fall, so I may have to start drinking again.
Don't forget the blow.

Nah. I've decided that I just want to clerk, not actually practice.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Good point. To make it convincing, I just drank an entire box of wine.

Heh, he said "box." Heheh.

Sovereign Court

Now that I think about it, Sebastian is like the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo, it makes perfect sense.

The Exchange

Callous Jack wrote:
Now that I think about it, Sebastian is like the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo, it makes perfect sense.

Give the pony more credit then that please.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Now that I think about it, Sebastian is like the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo, it makes perfect sense.
Give the pony more credit then that please.

Oh, were you hoping to be named the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo? ;)

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lynora wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Now that I think about it, Sebastian is like the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo, it makes perfect sense.
Give the pony more credit then that please.
Oh, were you hoping to be named the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo? ;)

I'm not that Metro and I am much more useful, not to mention I keep my mouth shut more.


Callous Jack wrote:
Now that I think about it, Sebastian is like the Ryan Seacrest of Paizo, it makes perfect sense.

SB does have better hair.

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